...that a "contact tracer" is likely, or even duty-bound to keep your secrets private. From what I can tell, a contact tracer is not a doctor, priest, or your retained attorney. They may even be required to report "up the chain" all aspects of your contact history including names, contact info and the... ahem!... nature/circumstances of your contact.
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The folks at the top who are collating trace data reports will definitely want to know how someone either exposed others to the virus, or how they contracted the virus from others. That is considered critical data on understanding how the disease is transmitted from person (hooker/trick) to person (trick/hooker).
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So add a big bottle of 70% or higher alcohol hand sanitizer to your sex kit, along with your lube, condoms, mouth wash, spare clean shirt with no perfume, wet wipes for lipstick on your face, pre-loaded debit card, and burner phone. :p
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Disclaimer: I don't have it, and I don't know anyone who does.
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Life is good.
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The Cat
I imagine that with all the TER users and providers out there, someone has managed to get covid-19.
Normally when someone is confirmed, there is a 'contact tracer' who connects and tries to find all the people who have been in proximity (this is the human contact tracing, not the app-based). While it can be embarrassing, presumably these folks are accustomed to all kinds of situations and know how to keep things confidential while informing the relevant people.
Just curious.. I find it strange that no one (as far as I can tell) has spoken about this on TER, though I can understand the reluctance..maybe folks can post using their pseudonym?
...that a "contact tracer" is likely, or even duty-bound to keep your secrets private. From what I can tell, a contact tracer is not a doctor, priest, or your retained attorney. They may even be required to report "up the chain" all aspects of your contact history including names, contact info and the... ahem!... nature/circumstances of your contact.
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The folks at the top who are collating trace data reports will definitely want to know how someone either exposed others to the virus, or how they contracted the virus from others. That is considered critical data on understanding how the disease is transmitted from person (hooker/trick) to person (trick/hooker).
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So add a big bottle of 70% or higher alcohol hand sanitizer to your sex kit, along with your lube, condoms, mouth wash, spare clean shirt with no perfume, wet wipes for lipstick on your face, pre-loaded debit card, and burner phone. :p
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Disclaimer: I don't have it, and I don't know anyone who does.
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Life is good.
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The name, date and location of the contact of persons whom had contact with an infected person are sent up to the relevant county public health department. If the contacts are in another county or state, they are sent to them.
Home address and telephone numbers are collected if the infected person knows them. If they don't then public records are used to find the person and inform them they they are in contact with an infected person and strongly advised to be tested.
How the infected person interacted with the contact is limited to clinically relevant information.
Back in the early months of the AIDS/HIV epidemic it was felt that it was important the know the route of bodily fluids contact. PV, PM, PA, MM, MV, MA, VV were the abbreviations used.
When it was realized that the only thing needed to be known was if there was exchange of bodily fluids asking how the bodily fluids were exchanged was dropped.
With Covid19 all that is needed to know if it was a handshake, a kiss or a hug.
So if you are contacted by a public health officer about a contact and they ask what was the contact just say a kiss and a hug. They don't need to know anymore than that.
I'm a loser with no game, so I would probably say a kiss, a hug and a blowjob. If they don't want to write the blowjob down, its their call, but at least they'd know it was part of the deal.
Appreciate the look behind the clipboard.
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And I think you confirmed my point, although I didn't articulate it well.
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In considering privacy matters, I think there are two "data flow" paths to consider:
1. AGGREGATED and analyzed data published by trace/health organizations - which will (at least should) be stripped of all PII (Personally Identifiable Info - like name, address, phone). Nothing wrong here, as this is one of the stated beneficial purposes of tracing.
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2. CONTACT-LEVEL data rolled up the chain for:
A. Determining upstream/downstream new contacts to interview/advise. Again, nothing wrong here, as this is one of the stated beneficial purposes of tracing.
B. Inclusion in the aggregated reports in #1. And nothing wrong here either, as this is also one of the stated beneficial purposes of tracing.
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C. Analysis of personal contact reports to determine deeper context by non-health-related agencies. And this is where there could be a problem.
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For example, lets say your trace reports show names, address, phone, email, etc. for person who ID's a hooker he/she met. Although your report will only say perhaps hug or kiss, a LE investigator could probably correlate your "kiss" contacts with a known hooker database. Or the investigator could cross-reference your contacts with known gang members, drug cartels and even terrorists. And that is where the privacy issue goes off the reservation. This would be a 4th (1st?) amendment violation (disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer) and could result in arrests (or at least new investigations of alleged crimes) that would not have happened without contact trace reports. And that's either a really bad thing (Hookers) or a (IMO) really good thing (criminals, terrorists) . But it would still be a violation of due process and privacy rights.
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Imagine if local LE or the FBI could read the full medical records of all patients in the US? Imagine if your full medical records were available for purchase by perspective employers, landlords, insurance companies, banks, etc.? You get the idea...
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So I'm not advocating against contract tracing. I think it's a vital tool in containing a pandemic like COVID-19. But I am advocating for strong oversite of how the data is used and accessed "behind the scenes", and for prohibitions of any LE or non-health-related and relevant agencies gaining access to the data.
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I'm a bit surprised .. I would think that to keep the hobby viable it's important to know these things. But respect the other opinions.
My question was really more about what has in fact happened, rather than what people might do if contacted. I guess no one wants to admit anything here.
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