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Does VIP really matter?
HighlyRatedProvider 2126 reads
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I don't mean here on TER.  I know that it has some additional priveliges on this site.  I am referring to on various sites where the ladies advertise.  

For the fellas:
When guys are checking out ads or trying to find a lady, does whether or not they appear in the VIP section on a website make a difference to you or do you typically look at categories or listings that are not designated as VIP as well?

For the ladies:
Do you notice a difference in the number of bookings or requests you receive by advertising in VIP vs. non-VIP sections

I have a particular look that I like...and whether someone pays for that VIP would have NO effect on my interest.  

Posted By: HighlyRatedProvider
I don't mean here on TER.  I know that it has some additional priveliges on this site.  I am referring to on various sites where the ladies advertise.    
   
 For the fellas:  
 When guys are checking out ads or trying to find a lady, does whether or not they appear in the VIP section on a website make a difference to you or do you typically look at categories or listings that are not designated as VIP as well?  
   
 For the ladies:  
 Do you notice a difference in the number of bookings or requests you receive by advertising in VIP vs. non-VIP sections?  
   
 

GaGambler636 reads

I really can't imagine any terms that mean less to me.

To discuss their advanced degrees is more relevant?

I guess those that have masters in BBBJCIM should promote that.

Posted By: GaGambler
I really can't imagine any terms that mean less to me.

I don't think it means anything to a monger at all.  It's like a tag line some girls add to seem more high end, but it's just a few letters that don't mean a thing.

The only thing that matters to me is reviews. I have to travel to hobby, Nearest hobby town to me is a two hour drive, but only BP girls and I've learned my lesson well not to see BP girls that aren't reviewed in here. I usually try to take advantage of my business travel for hobbying, but often I have to travel on my own. I will not spend money and most importantly time traveling to see a provider that is not reviewed so it doesn't matter if she's super VIP in some ad site. There are too many high quality women with great reviews in TER to see.

For this reason I was very excited to see two reviews for an almost unbelievably hot provider that I'd like to visit, so now I have some assurance that she's the real deal. Woohoo

Senator.Blutarsky614 reads

I think most of us look far and wide for that special gal that tickles our fancy... Some even stray into the swamp of BP... LOL

AnotherDonJohn717 reads

They're paying the site with cash or BJs.

And we're paying through the nose.

In my experience up to double.  

Like a black town car in the city. Not better than a taxi.

GreekDeprived612 reads

Well, to the one posting the add at least, but not to me.

Simple communication theory has the receiver applying the meaning--VIP doesn't mean anything to me.

It reminds me of adds with the statement "I Promise". Whenever I see that i think of children on a playground declaring they promise something, like never telling a secret?!

No. I do not want to associate with someone who thinks promising is appropriate adult behavior, let alone a business practice!

VIP.  Well at least it doesn't smack of playgrounds but it does seems as if it would resonate very well in  car advertising--VIP treatment, so stop by and buy a car from us where any vehicle you can push, pull or two is worth $4,000 trade in towards a new car.

Deprived

Ok, so I'm one of those providers that does blow a few extra hundred a month on VIP ads. On the site I'm eluding to, the VIP upgrade allows for a much nicer ad layout IMO and allowance for more pictures in the ad itself (I think). Of course, if I'm being honest with myself, I do feel a bit more swagger from the VIP placement (albeit a denotation well-payed for). I put that silver badge on my website and it's pretty and shiny and all that good stuff. I also see it as an investment, in which I value the quality of my ad, so I hope to indicate that I also value the quality of my services.  

Who knows, I'm probably just a sucker. Falling for tricks they teach you in B-school intro courses. It may be willful thinking or delusions of self-fulfilling prophecy, but I did notice an increase in attention to my ad when I upgraded to VIP.  

At the end of the day, to each their own. If I want to throw out cash for ads every four weeks, that's my choice. I'm under no misconception those three letters make be better than anyone else, just that it's nice to feel important, regardless of how inane the source of said importance is. ;)

Kisses to all!  
Bella May

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But since it seems a majority of the folks here are narcissists....you're entitled as well  LOL

If the metrics are working for you, or you believe they are, that is all that matters.

The reality is that the guys using Eros may be unaware of sites like this (TER), and are relatively inexperienced in how to do screening for themselves.  Given that, I can see paying the extra coin would make some guys believe that there is something "special" about you.  

It's all just an illusion  ;)

And yep...first basic marketing course you would ever take discusses the profitable aspects of marketing.  But all marketing is geared to getting the potential customer in the door, if your VIP is doing that then you're a winner.

Posted By: BellaMaytress
Ok, so I'm one of those providers that does blow a few extra hundred a month on VIP ads. On the site I'm eluding to, the VIP upgrade allows for a much nicer ad layout IMO and allowance for more pictures in the ad itself (I think). Of course, if I'm being honest with myself, I do feel a bit more swagger from the VIP placement (albeit a denotation well-payed for). I put that silver badge on my website and it's pretty and shiny and all that good stuff. I also see it as an investment, in which I value the quality of my ad, so I hope to indicate that I also value the quality of my services.  
   
 Who knows, I'm probably just a sucker. Falling for tricks they teach you in B-school intro courses. It may be willful thinking or delusions of self-fulfilling prophecy, but I did notice an increase in attention to my ad when I upgraded to VIP.  
   
 At the end of the day, to each their own. If I want to throw out cash for ads every four weeks, that's my choice. I'm under no misconception those three letters make be better than anyone else, just that it's nice to feel important, regardless of how inane the source of said importance is. ;)  
   
 Kisses to all!  
 Bella May  
   
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Thanks for your reply! And yes, narcissism is rampant in this world.. But I guess that's what keeps it interesting! :)

GreekDeprived375 reads

".. a sucker. Falling for tricks they teach you in B-school intro courses."  

If you went past “B-school” beginner’s course and into Marketing, Consumer Behavior, you might have encountered a stream of thought about how does a consumer make decisions under uncertain conditions, especially when they cannot judge “quality”.  It is widely believed that at an unconscious level, consumers look for “clues”, they slam the car door......if it sounds “solid”, why, the entire car must be solid (the World's Fair in New York city had an exhibition by Ford where one sat in a car that rolled through their exhibition; all the cars recorded anything people said in them. Comments about the fairly new Mustang went into changing suitabilities in the car, one of which changing the sound of the door closing.)

Not surprisingly price is used as a cue to high quality. It follows that a larger layout could be used as a clue to better quality of whomever is pictured; larger add space from VIP status could be a clue to better quality, or used to reduce uncertainty if two items are perceived as equal or very close.

Since “quality” lacks any useful meaning, unless one defines what quality is and then uses it to measure, the clues are used as path roads to benefits within the purchase; benefits are simply emotional reactions; emotions result from 3 or so basale(seminal) drivers that create our wide array of emotions.

That B-school teaches “tricks” is one interpretation. Setting aside “tricks” associated with sex, the mythology of B-school tricks over looks the depth of courses offered in B-schools, Accountancy, Finance, Macro and Micro Economic principals, Statistics, and Marketing, which is simply the study of the flow of goods and services, are all mainstay courses.

Exploration of “How and Why” people react is Behavioral Science. Applications within Consumer Behavior to influence is simply using “tricks” from Psychology and Sociology. But, once one pops the soap-bubble of “tricks”, one finds nothing more than a desire to present in favorable vs unfavorable light.

For the true essence of Trickery, one must delve into the hellish nether regions of Political Science, for it is there where the bonds of accountability are slippery at best, and glaringly non-existent for those accumulating power.

In business if your customer believes they have been deceived or lied to they vote with their $$ to your competition. Even if your customer has been very satisfied they may vote $$ to your competition, just for variety.

American politics is an Oligopoly of two parties competing for $$$, each trying to conquer each others territory. Here the mythology is “One man, one vote.” is the scaffolding demonstrating equality and importance of an individual's vote. Thanks to “the Electoral College” in presentational elections individual votes are Not equal. Gerrymandering like wise destroys the concept of individual voter equality. Add the flow of $$$ from an individuals with vastly differing assets to the flow of $$$ of organizations and its easy to see the wicked farce of “One man, one vote.”

In politics if the customer believes they have been lied to or deceived they only get to vote for whomever the Oligopoly blesses. Want some variety? Not within the Oligopoly!

Tricks? Lets allow an association with sex, and summon forth a movie and TV stereotype of  “street-hooker” turning tricks, scamming, knowingly passing on STDs, and thieving whenever possible for $$.  

For me, stuff $$$ and power into that stereotype, and its a walkin', breathin, Oligopoly member.

" I'm under no misconception those three letters make be better than anyone else, just that it's nice to feel important, regardless of how inane the source of said importance is. ;)"  

You are important.

To me anyone willing to share themselves in such an intimate way, that strives to make the sharing enjoyable is an angel.

Way back, last century, someone underscored for my benefit, we are NOT what we do for work.

If you aren't a mean spirited, hurtful person, you are a plus for us all. If your natural orientation is the opposite of "suck-the-life" from people, you're and angel in your own right.
   
Deprived

Years ago, Eros offered a free month of VIP status as a promotion for the (then) new feature.  It gave me front page placement of my ad, but did nothing for my business one way or the other...and, to be honest, it felt a little ridiculous.  I did not continue when the promotion ended

Back_In_Black713 reads

NOT ! And if you r > prove it ! .......what do u look like ? Real boobies ? Nice ass ? Really 28 ? Common , I need answers ....;)...

Posted By: HighlyRatedProvider
I don't mean here on TER.  I know that it has some additional priveliges on this site.  I am referring to on various sites where the ladies advertise.    
   
 For the fellas:  
 When guys are checking out ads or trying to find a lady, does whether or not they appear in the VIP section on a website make a difference to you or do you typically look at categories or listings that are not designated as VIP as well?  
   
 For the ladies:  
 Do you notice a difference in the number of bookings or requests you receive by advertising in VIP vs. non-VIP sections?  
   
 

Who says how good looking he is and how good in bed. Yeah, probably not.  

My view? Let others tell you how hot/beautiful/sexy/highly rated you are. And as soon as they have said it it starts back at zero because the next person might not have that rose colored glasses view.

I guess you'll have to go see her and write a review to find out about her ass, her age, her tits etc.

Back_In_Black507 reads

Post your ideas and pics people ! Be creative Anne have fun if you like !  

If I ever figure out how to cut and paste I'd put up Kermit and miss piggy ! Lol....

 

Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
Who says how good looking he is and how good in bed. Yeah, probably not.  
   
 My view? Let others tell you how hot/beautiful/sexy/highly rated you are. And as soon as they have said it it starts back at zero because the next person might not have that rose colored glasses view.  
   
 I guess you'll have to go see her and write a review to find out about her ass, her age, her tits etc.
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AnotherDonJohn512 reads

Even if its carried on the sandwich board of a frigging idiot. Lol.

Junk-Yard-Dog545 reads

You prove who you are, prove you are everything you claim you are/do...Oh wait that 's right you cannot because  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbIcfFD30Ms

s to either charge more or see more clients to keep paying for it every month.  

OTOH, I think Top 10 Placement is good when you have 300 other women to compete against and are trying to get noticed. Some cities on Eros house thousands of women, and you're on page 30 without a Top Placement. In those cases, the extra cost is justified, but VIP ads have never equated into dollars for most. It's just a way to say "Hey, I paid x amount for this ad, so I must be special."  

I have a friend who actually said word for word, "I am going to pay 2500 for that Worldwide VIP Ad on Eros, to show so and so how much money I can afford to blow." I thought to myself, "Good luck having to screw an extra 5 guys that month to pay for it."  "Vanity... definitely my favorite sin."  

If you want to make money in this business, it's not necessary to over expose yourself and spend thousands on advertising like you see with many other businesses. I've known women to get steady business at 400 per date, and never spend more than 150 a month on advertising because of location. I always found it funny that the girls spending the most on VIP ads are also the ones bitching about how slow they are, and having to hit every ISO. You have to screw more guys to keep making money for those ads. Seems counter productive.

Sometimes when I see agency ads, newsletters, promotion sites, etc and I see women with "VIP", "elite" and the like, it is sometimes a deterrent.  Perhaps unfairly, but often terms like "diva", "prima donna", bcs, overpriced and overhyped come to mind.  

Nothing wrong with a woman exhibiting a good sense of confidence and self-promotion, but these terms really don't seem to mean anything to me except inflated and unrealistic expectations.

Two different things...

You are talking about women who just use the 'terms' vip, elite, and so forth. The OP is talking about women who actually PAY to have those labels on advertising sites. When providers use terms like VIP, more often than not, we are not talking about ourselves but the type of guys we want to attract. I don't want to see the pizza boy or a guy working at Walmart, unless he happens to be the CEO of it.

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