In my admittedly limited experience, I've seen a couple of providers who had "finger in vagina" indicated on their profiles, yet they asked me not to. I'm very gentle with my hands, and work somewhat slowly from rubbing the outside to inserting finger a little bit. I just assumed that they may have been tender at those times, or that they thought I might be too rough. I figure it's their call to make.
There are things that, if they're on the menu, I want. CiM, for example. It's almost a must. If I don't see it, I probably won't see the lady. If it's on there, I want it. For me it's a major thing, and I have to think it is for a lot of guys. I would assume it's that way for a lot of things, such as anal. Is DFK really such a big deal that a guy would be mad if he couldn't stick his tongue in a woman's mouth?When I started this industry I could never understand the providers that only did things based on the gent (YMMV) I thought on the surface it meant "oh this bitch is one of those, she goes by looks, thats terrible" now that I've been in this for a while (still a lot to learn and I hope to learn more before retirement) I see why they say that. On my profile I took out a lot of services not that I don't provide them but yes it YMMV. Is it based on a person's appearance? No, it's based on my terrible experiences.
It's crazy because people literally take time to write me an e-mail saying how they will not see me anymore instead of sending me an email saying Roxanne I noticed you don't do this, however if I take a shower at your incall rinse my mouth and I'm squeaky clean will you still not(......)? Then if my answer is NO, take it from there. That's the way personally I would have approached it.
***Rimming****- Can't begin to describe the horrors (Just won't do it, and if I do I think it's a person that at least has written to me everyday and seen me several times, someone that understands that with me SHOWERS make or break the date)
**DATY**- Another big one, had a gent bite me so hard I was out of commission for a week,had to go to the E.R. needless to say sex was impossible. (YMMV)
**DFK***- HUGE one so many e-mails asking me why don't I kiss! I do! However, if your breathe smells like sweet and sour chicken and you don't HAVE THE COMMON sense or respect towards me to wash your mouth out even after I have made suggestions, even after I ask you if you want something to drink 20x then YOU WILL NOT BE KISSED. This has happened to me on multiple occasions. GET the point, it's not based on LOOKS it's based on HYGIENE. It amazes me what people don't understand and it also amazes me what people think I will tolerate for MONEY. You can take your money elsewhere with that mentality. Tell your friend and family Roxanne Heart will NOT SEE you with a capital F*ck no!
Kissing with me is YMMV and I commend those providers that have tips and tricks on getting through calls like that but I honestly refuse to. I'm sorry not all MONEY is good(in my opinion) and once again I expect my SO to practice great hygiene if not he doesn't get anything, so with that said at work I'm not going to be lenient. Nope don't think so.
***Fingering****- Once again some people want to put a fist when you tell them not too and others were so rough I have was torn. Once again for 1 call I am not losing a week it's not worth it to me.
I don't think I'm asking for too much however, I'm positive a lot hobbyist and providers have stop doing things because of a bad experience. Your thoughts and stories?
gentle lover and clean 
It's crazy because people literally take time to write me an e-mail saying how they will not see me anymore instead of sending me an email saying Roxanne I noticed you don't do this, however if I take a shower at your incall rinse my mouth and I'm squeaky clean will you still not(......)? Then if my answer is NO, take it from there. That's the way personally I would have approached it.
***Rimming****- Can't begin to describe the horrors (Just won't do it, and if I do I think it's a person that at least has written to me everyday and seen me several times, someone that understands that with me SHOWERS make or break the date)
**DATY**- Another big one, had a gent bite me so hard I was out of commission for a week,had to go to the E.R. needless to say sex was impossible. (YMMV)
**DFK***- HUGE one so many e-mails asking me why don't I kiss! I do! However, if your breathe smells like sweet and sour chicken and you don't HAVE THE COMMON sense or respect towards me to wash your mouth out even after I have made suggestions, even after I ask you if you want something to drink 20x then YOU WILL NOT BE KISSED. This has happened to me on multiple occasions. GET the point, it's not based on LOOKS it's based on HYGIENE. It amazes me what people don't understand and it also amazes me what people think I will tolerate for MONEY. You can take your money elsewhere with that mentality. Tell your friend and family Roxanne Heart will NOT SEE you with a capital F*ck no!
Kissing with me is YMMV and I commend those providers that have tips and tricks on getting through calls like that but I honestly refuse to. I'm sorry not all MONEY is good(in my opinion) and once again I expect my SO to practice great hygiene if not he doesn't get anything, so with that said at work I'm not going to be lenient. Nope don't think so.
***Fingering****- Once again some people want to put a fist when you tell them not too and others were so rough I have was torn. Once again for 1 call I am not losing a week it's not worth it to me.
I don't think I'm asking for too much however, I'm positive a lot hobbyist and providers have stop doing things because of a bad experience. Your thoughts and stories?
Rough way of saying it, but true.
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Why should i retire because someone doesn't want to take a shower. I just won't see them. It's crazy I will not tolerate anyone being smelly for mONEY!!!! nope. I guess i will be a low volume provider no problem with me.
Anyone might be the lover of DATY/DATO/(Add Acronym Flavor Here) but if he/she resembles Baghdad down there, you'd turn around.
Different strokes for different folks...not every sauce is the same.
I've learned don't knock it til you try it. Go with the flow/chemistry is what seems the norm.
Can't read off a play by play script.
She said "Jack, you do these three things and you will get the most out of your hobbying experience:"
1) don't pry into our personal lives
2) make sure your hygiene is flawless
3) do your absolute best to make us feel safe in your presence
It was sound advice, and common sense based, but since p4p is so different than IRL, a fact lost on many here, it is wise for newer guys (or even veteran guys that may have taken these for granted) to really have these 3 pointers on their mind.
Sometimes guys will inadvertently make mistakes with point #1, because making casual conversation is difficult for some, specially if they are nervous or feel intimidated, as many guys do. They ask too many personal questions too soon after meeting. Of course when you get to know people better, there may be the opportunity to explore a bit more deeply, but when in doubt, let the gal open that door first.
Point two was never an issue for me personally, but I do freshen up several times, especially in a four hour or longer date. And after enjoying a meal with playtime to follow, it is a must to freshen up ones breath at least.
And number 3 is interesting. She told me that when gals prepare for their date or waiting for the guy to arrive, their safety is on their mind, especially if they have never met before. She said she never knew if that was the day she wasn't going to make it through the day safely as stories of sex workers being harmed are in the news on an almost daily basis. That is something every guy should be cognizant of and they will be rewarded justly, in most cases.
I feel you on all the above. Let me say this, to the gentlemen that don't have common courtesy and don't understand the gentle approach, you guys are idiots. Shower, brushing your teeth, simple hygiene for that matter should not be something a woman should have to tell you. It's common sense. Biting a woman's clit? Well thats just dumb, trying to fist someone without their approval, stupid, there are fools born everyday and apparently some of them like to hobby.
It's crazy because people literally take time to write me an e-mail saying how they will not see me anymore instead of sending me an email saying Roxanne I noticed you don't do this, however if I take a shower at your incall rinse my mouth and I'm squeaky clean will you still not(......)? Then if my answer is NO, take it from there. That's the way personally I would have approached it.
***Rimming****- Can't begin to describe the horrors (Just won't do it, and if I do I think it's a person that at least has written to me everyday and seen me several times, someone that understands that with me SHOWERS make or break the date)
**DATY**- Another big one, had a gent bite me so hard I was out of commission for a week,had to go to the E.R. needless to say sex was impossible. (YMMV)
**DFK***- HUGE one so many e-mails asking me why don't I kiss! I do! However, if your breathe smells like sweet and sour chicken and you don't HAVE THE COMMON sense or respect towards me to wash your mouth out even after I have made suggestions, even after I ask you if you want something to drink 20x then YOU WILL NOT BE KISSED. This has happened to me on multiple occasions. GET the point, it's not based on LOOKS it's based on HYGIENE. It amazes me what people don't understand and it also amazes me what people think I will tolerate for MONEY. You can take your money elsewhere with that mentality. Tell your friend and family Roxanne Heart will NOT SEE you with a capital F*ck no!
Kissing with me is YMMV and I commend those providers that have tips and tricks on getting through calls like that but I honestly refuse to. I'm sorry not all MONEY is good(in my opinion) and once again I expect my SO to practice great hygiene if not he doesn't get anything, so with that said at work I'm not going to be lenient. Nope don't think so.
***Fingering****- Once again some people want to put a fist when you tell them not too and others were so rough I have was torn. Once again for 1 call I am not losing a week it's not worth it to me.
I don't think I'm asking for too much however, I'm positive a lot hobbyist and providers have stop doing things because of a bad experience. Your thoughts and stories?
In my admittedly limited experience, I've seen a couple of providers who had "finger in vagina" indicated on their profiles, yet they asked me not to. I'm very gentle with my hands, and work somewhat slowly from rubbing the outside to inserting finger a little bit. I just assumed that they may have been tender at those times, or that they thought I might be too rough. I figure it's their call to make.
There are things that, if they're on the menu, I want. CiM, for example. It's almost a must. If I don't see it, I probably won't see the lady. If it's on there, I want it. For me it's a major thing, and I have to think it is for a lot of guys. I would assume it's that way for a lot of things, such as anal.
Is DFK really such a big deal that a guy would be mad if he couldn't stick his tongue in a woman's mouth?
Yes, I've heard major rants about guys not getting DFK. It's as tho they take it as an insult that they can't get kissed by someone who is fucking them.
I try to do everything right but in this most personal of interactions... a coupling of 2 unique individuals... I expect YMMV. I try to give as good as I get but always let her guide me. I am the motor but she is the driver.
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Asian SPs in my area do this and people don't notice it at all.
Are you not putting mouthwash near the sink or something? Their breath should not be that bad after mouthwash.
You can't make him use it.
You could also have flashing neon signs in the bathroom with giant arrows pointing the massive bottle of mouthwash, and still those with rank breath refuse to touch it.
That's because people think their breath doesn't stink. Smoking, coffee, garlic, onions all linger long after you brushed your teeth. How many brush their tongue and floss? Not many is my guess. I broke up with a girl because her morning breath smell like she had a midnight snack out of the cat's littler box. It wasn't"dragon breath". It was "cat shit breath" fucking Horrid. The reason, she didn't brush her teeth before she went to bed ... ever.
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use it, and they still won't. I buy bulk in mini bars of soaps because I do not like the idea of my guests having to share a bar, so I know if they just unwrapped and didn't use it.
Guys, if you are bothering or have been asked to shower lather something up even if it is just the shampoo and wash at LEAST the 3 important parts, underarms/crotch(throughly and all nooks too please)/butt.... There is nothing worse then getting in there and that nice cock all clean and sparkling but you have to use your hand below the shaft so you don't keep getting whiffs of rancid ass up your nose. So gross, at that point you will no longer be getting her best because you did not properly wash your behind... Sucks
Rancid ass? Is that an oxymoron?
I don't think she was talking about doing rimming, but having it done to her. I'm glad TER has the give v.s. receive distinction on profiles. I could be wrong, but the DATY part makes me think otherwise.
In my agency days, a friend of mine "famous" for rimming used to use a bent, lubed-up finger instead of a tongue.
She also used to fake greek by putting the penis in her vagina instead of her asshole. Amazingly, the guys never noticed....at least, no guy ever said he noticed.
It's crazy because people literally take time to write me an e-mail saying how they will not see me anymore instead of sending me an email saying Roxanne I noticed you don't do this, however if I take a shower at your incall rinse my mouth and I'm squeaky clean will you still not(......)? Then if my answer is NO, take it from there. That's the way personally I would have approached it.
***Rimming****- Can't begin to describe the horrors (Just won't do it, and if I do I think it's a person that at least has written to me everyday and seen me several times, someone that understands that with me SHOWERS make or break the date)
**DATY**- Another big one, had a gent bite me so hard I was out of commission for a week,had to go to the E.R. needless to say sex was impossible. (YMMV)
**DFK***- HUGE one so many e-mails asking me why don't I kiss! I do! However, if your breathe smells like sweet and sour chicken and you don't HAVE THE COMMON sense or respect towards me to wash your mouth out even after I have made suggestions, even after I ask you if you want something to drink 20x then YOU WILL NOT BE KISSED. This has happened to me on multiple occasions. GET the point, it's not based on LOOKS it's based on HYGIENE. It amazes me what people don't understand and it also amazes me what people think I will tolerate for MONEY. You can take your money elsewhere with that mentality. Tell your friend and family Roxanne Heart will NOT SEE you with a capital F*ck no!
Kissing with me is YMMV and I commend those providers that have tips and tricks on getting through calls like that but I honestly refuse to. I'm sorry not all MONEY is good(in my opinion) and once again I expect my SO to practice great hygiene if not he doesn't get anything, so with that said at work I'm not going to be lenient. Nope don't think so.
***Fingering****- Once again some people want to put a fist when you tell them not too and others were so rough I have was torn. Once again for 1 call I am not losing a week it's not worth it to me.
I don't think I'm asking for too much however, I'm positive a lot hobbyist and providers have stop doing things because of a bad experience. Your thoughts and stories?
No one should mistreat or disrespect or break boundaries......Funny when you hear escorts say it's not about money thats why working in business.Without money escorts wouldn't surive in life.Make a date without payment see what happen gents.
Good Hygiene goes both ways. I am extremely clean but I know that everyone have different standards. It is possible for someone to have a bad day but I will not go back for second helpings if I have seen the provider more than once and the hygiene doesn't meet my standards.
I don't review providers who have done YMMV things with me because I'm not going to be that asshole who says she did CIM or Greek even though it's NOT on her menu. She only did it because I'm such an "awesome"guy. We have all read those reviews and I don't want a provider PMing me in anger because the next client demands that she do a YMMV item because "Durham Drew reviewed about it." We all know that guys don't read, or comprehend, stuff on here. I recently got into some trouble because I mentioned that a provider had posted a "scat" video (it was one of those European, Religious-Themed ones.) Anyway, some TER member bone head PMed her asking about "her"scat videos (he thought she starred in one) Yup, she was pissed and told me so. She's not someone who takes shit from anyone (no pun) She's also my regulars best friend who thinks the world of her. I even sent a Xmas gift to her to say, "sorry". I couldn't resist writing "love Drew" on the tag tho. She may not forgive me. There goes that double ... Forever.
So I get the YMMV thing. Providers almost have to do it because so many guys are assholes. Just ask my regular's friend ... She thinks I'm one of them.
Everyone knows how awesome you are. You need not remind us!
You'll have to find your own double ... Nice try tho
Are these you norms when you did your research or are these the funny exceptions?
I have posted many of my experiences over the years. I am still here
I am a gfe provider and I love providing. I absolutely adore most of my clients however I have noticed about 1 time a month I will get one guy who thinks its totally ok to stick his finger in my ass and then stick it in my vagina. It's happened 4 times in the past year and each time I try to go with the flow and just pee as fast as I can without disturbing our session. EACH TIME now I have been admitted to the emergency room with terrible urinary tract infections , pissing blood, on antibiotics fo 7 days, losing work, in terrible pain and weakening
My system since I am on antibiotics. Im so nice that I never say anything but at this point im wondering how retarded are some of you? Do you not understand female anatomy and that you cannot go inside someone's ass and then inside their vagina? Also, I do not advertise ANY anal services. Im straigt up Gfe. Now Im starting to get angry because I feel disrespected and I wonder how im going to react the next time someone tries doing it. I thought anal play was not necessarily Gfe, so why do some people do this to me without even asking??Next time someone does this Im putting my foot down and saying NO! Thoughts on this FIA to FIV issue guys and girls??
Do you have a web site? one statement then. NO ASS PLAY. FIA equals two in the eyes. You are correct, some guys are just that stupid. Porn is real life, right?
You're totally right. I just am such a people pleaser I just go with the Gfe flow and want my dates happy but the pain agony and suffering Iv been through has been too much. I will add no ass play to my site I just wonder if there's a nicer term you suggest? I just don't want to seem mean on my site. Thanks for the advice. I really appreciate it
Sometimes subtlety is the wrong approach. Using a 2x4 (metaphorically) works very well.
some people need to be introduced to the real thing.....
No visiting the Greek Islands.
Some women will cease a session immediately if they are being disrespected or if a client tries something that is off limits. It's a judgment call.
You may want to consider posting these kinds of questions on the Newbie board. You'll receive some excellent advice from both perspectives
No visiting the Greek isles via dingy or cruise ship...should take care of a dick and the finger.
Fucking hell. Sorry! That sounds frustrating and awful.
I've never ever done fia to fiv. But i have done that with girls using my tongue. .. no penetration. In my personal life I've never had any report of an infection with tongue only.
My system since I am on antibiotics. Im so nice that I never say anything but at this point im wondering how retarded are some of you? Do you not understand female anatomy and that you cannot go inside someone's ass and then inside their vagina? Also, I do not advertise ANY anal services. Im straigt up Gfe. Now Im starting to get angry because I feel disrespected and I wonder how im going to react the next time someone tries doing it. I thought anal play was not necessarily Gfe, so why do some people do this to me without even asking??Next time someone does this Im putting my foot down and saying NO! Thoughts on this FIA to FIV issue guys and girls??
You might not get the report that you inadvertently caused an infection. Not a good practice to go from ass to vagina with anything.
You can stop them you know. You, and you alone, are responsible for what happens and what dies NOT happen. Like each of us is responsible for our protection.
If FIV is okay with you...ask that they at the very least wash their hands. ASS to anywhere other than a tap with HOT water and some soap is gross.
Stop them and say ... go wash that finger with soap and water! Then say, "NO FIV after FIA"
PORN has made people stupid with ATM and vag sex right after anal without a break/wash.
Hey,I'm all for anal play, but it has to be clean and safe.
You can't have one without the other.
Put your foot down!
it would be quicker to just list the things you WILL do...LOL (jk of course).
It's crazy because people literally take time to write me an e-mail saying how they will not see me anymore instead of sending me an email saying Roxanne I noticed you don't do this, however if I take a shower at your incall rinse my mouth and I'm squeaky clean will you still not(......)? Then if my answer is NO, take it from there. That's the way personally I would have approached it.
***Rimming****- Can't begin to describe the horrors (Just won't do it, and if I do I think it's a person that at least has written to me everyday and seen me several times, someone that understands that with me SHOWERS make or break the date)
**DATY**- Another big one, had a gent bite me so hard I was out of commission for a week,had to go to the E.R. needless to say sex was impossible. (YMMV)
**DFK***- HUGE one so many e-mails asking me why don't I kiss! I do! However, if your breathe smells like sweet and sour chicken and you don't HAVE THE COMMON sense or respect towards me to wash your mouth out even after I have made suggestions, even after I ask you if you want something to drink 20x then YOU WILL NOT BE KISSED. This has happened to me on multiple occasions. GET the point, it's not based on LOOKS it's based on HYGIENE. It amazes me what people don't understand and it also amazes me what people think I will tolerate for MONEY. You can take your money elsewhere with that mentality. Tell your friend and family Roxanne Heart will NOT SEE you with a capital F*ck no!
Kissing with me is YMMV and I commend those providers that have tips and tricks on getting through calls like that but I honestly refuse to. I'm sorry not all MONEY is good(in my opinion) and once again I expect my SO to practice great hygiene if not he doesn't get anything, so with that said at work I'm not going to be lenient. Nope don't think so.
***Fingering****- Once again some people want to put a fist when you tell them not too and others were so rough I have was torn. Once again for 1 call I am not losing a week it's not worth it to me.
I don't think I'm asking for too much however, I'm positive a lot hobbyist and providers have stop doing things because of a bad experience. Your thoughts and stories?
I don't openly offer rimming (sorry guys im still new idk all the escort lingo) becasue some guys arent 100 percent great with their hygiene. I give full front to back yum yum as I call it lol but only to those who
A. Are clean and fully shaven. Hairy but = no ty
Or B. They agree tocshower with me so I can make sure they're clean.
Every encounter is different so I think guys should always keep an open mind.