I'm afraid that some how the secret of my future past, turning to a provider for any reason what so ever, will catch up with me even when I have not indulged in years. I have friends who have done it once, another who's brother does it a lot and has for years etc. Being on these boards shows me that I am not alone and its been done/being done more than anyone would like to admit. My closest friends know I have done it [some wish that they could], but they believe I did it on my birthday sometimes, or used too. They didnt really care. Only a handful of my closest friends know about it.
My buddys wife is all for it actually, regarding guys with low self esteem to build confidence. Shit, aside from his asshole mannerisms, I admire Charlie Sheen! Flying around the world with a porn star and his hot maid or what ever she was, sounds like a great life if you're single and can afford it. I know I'd love it if I was as wealthy as him. Dudes just living his life the way he wants and gets blasted by the media for not being what society thinks he should be. As much as I see professional, independent escorts as a night and day difference to a quote/unquote prostitute, a street hooker with a pimp and tracks all over her arms, many people do not. I have this feeling that if, somehow, my future other half got wind that I have seen a provider, or even more than once, it could end a relationship in a heartbeat if given the right circumstances. That would really suck. Im not really concerned about it at the moment. I have a successful business, Im single and feel good about life. I dont have regrets, because I know seeing a well reviewed provider is not some creepy, disgusting experience riddled with drugged up, runaway underage trafficked women. Shit I knew some women personally that really slept around a lot at parties and guys they met at the bar, or on dating sites. Who are some of these people to talk about business companionship as opposed to drunk companionship? Your hooking up with a stranger either way and with them, walking away with out strings using alcohol as an excuse. However, what it really boils down to is that my opinion really doesn't matter, I cant help to wonder how my youth and the decisions I made will possibly effect me further down the road.Then keep your mouth shut about it.
Everybody has a secret, and I hate having secrets in LTR's. Drives me nuts
You're right Courtney.
I have actually told 3 people I do this. 2 married friends at work who I've worked with for 10 years and know they won't say anything. Also my best friend who is marrled knows.
I got tired of these 3 people giving me shit all the time about being single and not having a stable of women around. Hell for the past 10 years I've worked 60-70 hours a week so that does not leave a lot of time to score women. This hobby solved that problem.
whether you're paying for it or you're an escort.
I would never tell a soul ever again. I did that once and in their drunkenness, the person blurted it out to everyone at a party. It's not fun when the person you confide in, outs you about something that's far from cool to be proud of.....then you have to deal with the ramifications.
Some things should be kept to yourself.
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who you trust and who you tell. The ONLY person who knows that doesn't do this is the ONLY person/friend who stuck with me before, during, and after the most difficult times in my life.
Not even sure if I should have told her, but she's the only one who has proven to deserve the information.
P.S. Last night i was getting all bent out of shape because I was thinking about getting into a LTR with someone one day. I would want them to know about this. BUT then, in my imagination, after the guy promised not to hold it against me later in the relationship, he blurted it out in an argument.
I took the ring off my finger, only engagement because I didn't want to deal with a divorce in my imagination, put it in his hand and got my shit and left. Took my money out of our bank account and got a new place. When confronting me and saying, "If you don't come back, everyone will know." I said, "I'd rather that than be stuck with someone who would blackmail me into actions and a continued relationship."
Why did I just talk about an imagined occurrence? Because it does happen all the time. People will use your past against you so quick. Even parents still call me messy and slob even though I'm OCD about many things. They're still thinking of my teen years.
(Breanna, don't tell anyone, especially my parents when they come over, what my car looked like hahaha.)
i.e. will probably never pursue a LTR LOL.
Courtney. You're a sweet lady. A good soul who deserves happiness, in whatever form it takes. So PLEASE do not let this scenario you imagine, potentially realistic as it may be, create a frame around a LTR life you can imagine.
There are good guys out there. You deserve one. Strangely enough, your scenario seems to make a reasonable case for the possible value (at least for some) of connecting with someone who has hobbied at one time in their lives. Is it right for you? Is it right for anyone??? Who is to say. I know, in many ways the answer is no, but a shared secret like this that can make that hurdle go straight away.
Someone like you takes chances with your life on something that brings people pleasure and harms no one. You're brave. Brave people should be proud. This is our puritanical society's problem, not yours. Hold your head high and no one can hurt you. So don't let the bastards get you down!
Not even sure if I should have told her, but she's the only one who has proven to deserve the information.
P.S. Last night i was getting all bent out of shape because I was thinking about getting into a LTR with someone one day. I would want them to know about this. BUT then, in my imagination, after the guy promised not to hold it against me later in the relationship, he blurted it out in an argument.
I took the ring off my finger, only engagement because I didn't want to deal with a divorce in my imagination, put it in his hand and got my shit and left. Took my money out of our bank account and got a new place. When confronting me and saying, "If you don't come back, everyone will know." I said, "I'd rather that than be stuck with someone who would blackmail me into actions and a continued relationship."
Why did I just talk about an imagined occurrence? Because it does happen all the time. People will use your past against you so quick. Even parents still call me messy and slob even though I'm OCD about many things. They're still thinking of my teen years.
(Breanna, don't tell anyone, especially my parents when they come over, what my car looked like hahaha.)
i.e. will probably never pursue a LTR LOL.
...you really don't know how 'good' someone is until you've known them for a while.
but sweet gents like you should be seen by gal's like me. Where the hell have you been? When we gonna make an appt?
haha JK. But one day, maybe when I'm famous and have done much good for the world, which I intend to do, I'll pursue it. (Another thing our psyche expert SocDegree would say is a sign of mania... grandiosity.)
Anyway, thanks hun, there are two things we can do for ourselves.
1. Take what others throw at us with a grain of salt, while continuing to know who we are
2. Not inviting anyone into our lives who will continually hurt us or trap us by their words.
I have a few close friends and family members I keep near me. All others I keep at arm's distance.
Until someone proves to me he's a good man, he can then put a ring on my finger. When he proves he's a good fiance, he can know my secrets. When he proves he can handle them, the knot will be tied.
I think I just made myself sick, LOL. Marriage = yuck LOL
xoxo
Dear Courtney:
When you got into the business as an Adult Companionship Provider, what where the social,professional and psychological consequences did you consider? I am wondering do you have a circle of friends that would work in the business and if so how did they approach this with respect to their personal lives and when did they disclose their different vocation to others? Where they ready for the ramifications and consequences that were by products of the disclosure and who could they confide in? Also would you say that you also have the same conundrums when it would come to having a civilian relationship while being active in the hobby or do you look to certain types of psychological profiles in the potential men that you would date because of the nature and scope of the business or would you choose to be alone so that you won't have to deal with the fall out and suspicion of your mate? All real choices and questions I am sure that you have entertained at one point or another>
...thought the psychological ramifications and consequences would be worse. But, quite honestly, are much better! I feel better than I have in my entire life.
The LTR thing isn't just about this. It's about men, or people in general, using your past to control you and how you work within the relationship. Whether in this or not, ... probably wouldn't do it.
Either way, I cringe at the thought of marriage. I have goals that a marriage would stomp out.
I have never known anyone in this profession before doing it myself, and have met some pretty cool friends through it. Pretty real, down to earth, people who've 'been there' so can understand the biz.
My mate would know before we tied the knot. What he does about it is up to him.
The quality of men that high-caliber providers such as yourself meet are a networkers dream. I bet you have a rolodex of men who are very good people to know professionally. Think about this if you ever decide to get out of this business and are looking to fulfill your goals.
Is that high volume?
Sometimes I wish I was higher volume! LOL.
But, no. Zero-two / day, and two is a good day!
5/week on high average
thank you
I know plenty I could be an Admin Assistant for, lol, but I don't want to get back into that type of stuff, and it's not really a dream of mine LOL. Loved it, but not a dream.
I need to go places where I can meet producers, videographers, etc. Perhaps this whole new gym membership that's two car payments' worth a month to pay for will help me meet people with media exposure. LOL.
I don't recommend having a joint bank account under any circumstances.
Not even sure if I should have told her, but she's the only one who has proven to deserve the information.
P.S. Last night i was getting all bent out of shape because I was thinking about getting into a LTR with someone one day. I would want them to know about this. BUT then, in my imagination, after the guy promised not to hold it against me later in the relationship, he blurted it out in an argument.
I took the ring off my finger, only engagement because I didn't want to deal with a divorce in my imagination, put it in his hand and got my shit and left. Took my money out of our bank account and got a new place. When confronting me and saying, "If you don't come back, everyone will know." I said, "I'd rather that than be stuck with someone who would blackmail me into actions and a continued relationship."
Why did I just talk about an imagined occurrence? Because it does happen all the time. People will use your past against you so quick. Even parents still call me messy and slob even though I'm OCD about many things. They're still thinking of my teen years.
(Breanna, don't tell anyone, especially my parents when they come over, what my car looked like hahaha.)
i.e. will probably never pursue a LTR LOL.
Every one night stand, every friend that you are still friends with that you slept with. The past is the past. I think not questioning every thing about your past comes trust, with getting older and having relationships. Realizing everyone has baggage and made some mistakes.
My wife and I werent talking about specifics one day and she mentioned she didnt even know her number. She said it was between 13-14 but wasnt sure. I was surprised because I know my number and always will, i thought women put more value in that information as well. That being said just that could have been a reason for me to move on when I was younger. Now its still a surprise but not something I d worry about.
There are things that maybe being truthful about is not a good idea. I have a pretty good male friend who was molested at 12. He had never talked about it but confessed to his wife of 12 yrs and she basically left him after words. He went through a very hard time and regrets ever bring it up. Some things are better left unsaid and once you say them its to late. Jmho.
My buddys wife is all for it actually, regarding guys with low self esteem to build confidence. Shit, aside from his asshole mannerisms, I admire Charlie Sheen! Flying around the world with a porn star and his hot maid or what ever she was, sounds like a great life if you're single and can afford it. I know I'd love it if I was as wealthy as him. Dudes just living his life the way he wants and gets blasted by the media for not being what society thinks he should be.
As much as I see professional, independent escorts as a night and day difference to a quote/unquote prostitute, a street hooker with a pimp and tracks all over her arms, many people do not. I have this feeling that if, somehow, my future other half got wind that I have seen a provider, or even more than once, it could end a relationship in a heartbeat if given the right circumstances. That would really suck.
Im not really concerned about it at the moment. I have a successful business, Im single and feel good about life. I dont have regrets, because I know seeing a well reviewed provider is not some creepy, disgusting experience riddled with drugged up, runaway underage trafficked women. Shit I knew some women personally that really slept around a lot at parties and guys they met at the bar, or on dating sites. Who are some of these people to talk about business companionship as opposed to drunk companionship? Your hooking up with a stranger either way and with them, walking away with out strings using alcohol as an excuse.
However, what it really boils down to is that my opinion really doesn't matter, I cant help to wonder how my youth and the decisions I made will possibly effect me further down the road.
I agree with you, there are some things left unsaid. There are times that the truth causes more harm than good. And people just seem not to have the scope to think outside societal norms, however prudish, and point fingers. Not a biblical person but he/she who casts the first stone etc.
There was a period of about a year and a half when my wife and I were split up when we were still dating. My ex saw a lot of guys. She kept telling me they were just friends, but I knew otherwise. Even though I knew almost for a fact that she was having sex with a lot of guys, I believed what she said because I loved her and wanted to believe it. When the truth finally came out, it hurt not because of the guys, but because she admitted she lied. She knew I wouldn't marry her if I'd known the truth (even though I did).
As for hobbying, my best friend knows. He and I have shared each others innermost secrets all our lives. He knows more about me than my wife did, and I know more about him than his wife does.
If by some chance the truth came out, there's nothing it could do to hurt me except ruffle some people's feathers.
As for the providers, I agree with Scarsdale. Providers make people happy. There's very few people whose job it is to make people happy. I'm glad they exist. If they didn't, we'd have to invent them. ![]()
Half the fun of doing this is talking to my best friends about it. We compare experiences and sometimes share recommendations. Some of them do it and some don't, for a variety of reasons. Those that don't wish they did. It makes for great conversation as long as everyone keeps their mouth shut. Some of our SOs are friends with each other which could be a problem but so far so good. Not something I'm worried about. I just want more variety than I can get in my civi life. Love to experience the many cute and sexy young ladies available without all the complications that come with the chase!
To be honest about it though, if I found out my SO was doing this as well I might have a second thought about it!
Another fun part of doing this is when I see guys in the bar with their fat and average looking girlfriends and I know that I only have sex with women that look like they need to be on the cover of Maxim.
and so it is with the hobby.
The hobby ended my married life in a sense when my wife found out and divorced me; but in another sense, the marriage was over except in name, as she did not like me, nor I her. Despite the fact that I dreaded the thought of divorce, and the expense in terms of money and emotions is quite great, it was well worth it as I've been very happy ever since, and you can't put a price on freedom.
But still, if the thought of the repercussions of being caught cause you so much grief that you don't enjoy the hobbying, then it is not for you.
Why pay money to be miserable, after all?
y cousin. And it is a great source of comfort that we can share stories. There are others I would like to turn on to this world but am not taking that chance. Way too much to lose.
"great source of comfort"...WTF does that mean??
Your a grown man, aren't you???
And you are a well known asswipe and predator. Just ask Angel.
Ok, I did and she said i'm not. Is that "comforting" for you also.
In fact, it gives me great comfort because no one can out me. I'm not married and virtually everyone I know is aware of how I play. Just saw a cousin I hadn't seen in years who asked me if I was dating. I told him no way, "I rent." He replied, "I can dig it." My kid called me to wish me a happy birthday early this year, knowing I was in Vegas. "Guess how I'm celebrating," I asked him. "I've got a date tonight with two Model Mayhem girls."
All he said was, "Go Dad!"
The rest of my friends love to hear my tales of the wild shit I've done. Even some of their wives. Hell, even my ex wife.
I understand most of you have to keep it hidden, but it's very liberating when you don't. Ask Gambler and a few others.
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is if you do cocktail or dinner dates in public, it affects ladies who may not want to be outed, but you're potentially outing them since you're so open with everyone about paying for sex.
This has happened to me. I went on a cocktail/dancing date with a client and later he told me some guys he knew (that knew he saw escorts) made comments about him being w/ a beautiful escort. Since I only wanted the guy I screened to know I'm an escort, it was a drag and reminder about why it's important for clients to be discreet as well.
I am just wondering since you where on a date with this person how did you prepare in terms of research? Also where you ready to run with certain ideas and subject matter in a comprehensive and articulate manner so that you wouldn't raise any eyebrows? Finally did you dress in an extremely understated and conservative manner so that you could pass for a real estate agent or a tax attorney? These are just some key tips on how to keep them guessing while staying under the radar.
people who saw me with him knew I was an escort.
Research? I had seen him for years, but not in local places where he felt the need to tell everyone about his need to pay escorts. Afterwards, he admitted to me that people know he sees escorts. um ok discretion at it's best.......riiiiight! lol
this isn't me, but something I'd wear.........
This has happened to me. I went on a cocktail/dancing date with a client and later he told me some guys he knew (that knew he saw escorts) made comments about him being w/ a beautiful escort. Since I only wanted the guy I screened to know I'm an escort, it was a drag and reminder about why it's important for clients to be discreet as well.
I needed companionship sometimes, so I turned to providers. I was able to chose who I was with and that satisfied me when I could afford it. But this post is spot on. If I did a dinner date with a provider, I could not bring her around my friends. It would have to be the two of us out by ourselves someplace where I know I would not run into anyone I knew, or I would have to start lying and unless I convinced them it was a POF, or Match.com date, they would assume it was a provider. Im 6'1" tall and 180 pounds and good looking according to many ladies I know. If I were with a good looking woman, it would not be suspicious, but being seen in public by friends with a good looking woman hanging on me only once - not good. Gotta be careful there.
I play in one of the biggest cities in the world where there's virtually no chance of my running into anyone I know. Especially since most of the people who know what I do don't live there. If that were to happen I wouldn't say anything about her being an escort. They could probably figure that out for themselves, but they'd never be sure.
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I've never told anyone that I do this and probably never will. I just don't see the need to tell anyone. The only people that I discuss the hobby with are providers and some guys on the boards. I've heard guys that I work with use terminology that I didn't know before I started hobbying so I suspect that they do this but I still don't feel the need to share.
Jd
I told a friend of mine about what I do. So he wanted to meet my current Provider. Called my Provider and it was all good with her since I was one of her Regular Clients. My Friend was Nervous as he has never done this before. So I said, what the Heck, we'll do a Double with her. She was good with it. The Session was Awesome. My Provider Performed Flawlessly. Super Nice and did anything me and my Friend wanted. So I think I got him Hooked on the Hobby and my Provider.
Mine did and now who cares the people who know who you are before they knew and still know you are a decent person the ones who are all issues about it **** em xxx
I also tend to only spend my time with clients who apply in that context, because far too many hobbyists run their damn mouths about other providers during pillow talk. Sadly, they are usually the ones who write the most negative reviews too. No one in my real life knows the entire context of what I do, but yes some people know I am somehow involved in the ADULT entertainment industry...they just don't know specifics.