Have a pic of a huge bodybuilder type guy that the john can see, then set your alarm on your phone to go off at the right time and "answer it" and speak as if the BF is on his way over. Let the trick know he is on his way, then show him the pic. You don't need time vampires and that should get rid of him PDQ.
I hate to discriminate, really I do. These young guys do it to me ALL the time, if they don't do it upon arrival they'll do it before they leave. (By "IT" I mean something utterly stupid. )
So tell me, how yesterday I had a client in his 20's, okay fine. He comes in whatever, formalities out of the way. Fast forward the session has ended. I ask him nicely to hurry he was already 10mins over. He says "okay", so I'm getting ready, cleaning this and that. 5 mins go by and he's still Nonchalantly laying on the bed, he turns on the tv and I'm like "sweetie you have to go" (Mind you, he's not PAYING for extra time not even a tip.) "Oh ok, I won't even take a shower"he says, then 3 mins later he decides he wants a shower. Fine he takes his sweet time in the shower. Comes out and he's just taking his time drying up. So when he finally gets dressed he's like "oh do you have soda?" I just look at him and say yes, I give him a diet pepsi. "Oh I don't like diet Pepsi do you have anything else....?" I'm like "no sweetie I don't". "Can I have some your blue label?" I say No, the bottle wasn't open and on top of that HE HAD TO GO. He tells me next time I should have a bigger selection of beverages. I just look at him and open the door.
Da f*ck my man, am I a Convenience store, yeah go back to the bathroom behind the curtain there's a secret door that leads to my Convenience store and Narnia at that. F*ck you mean i need a bigger selection. I can't do it with these young guys, man!
My question to you all is....How do I tell a client he has to go without sounding money hungry and without ruining the fantasy?In this case I was already dressed and he was still taking his time.
This is so crazy and funny at the same time. Also I should be asking you about that remedial course for Dummies. Just look at the way you wrote some of your comment. GaGambler " so let me also point out that YOU are said lapdog" Lol Thanks for the laughs clown!
Posted By: GaGambler
I know you are a bit slow, so let me also point out that YOU are said lapdog.
How's that remedial reading course for Dummies coming along?
You would still be considered a moron by any definition of the word, but at least you would have "some" excuse for writing posts that look like they should have been written in crayon.
It's hurts you Roxanne took your title away. I can hear the bitterness in each comment you try to write. Lol
Posted By: GaGambler
You would still be considered a moron by any definition of the word, but at least you would have "some" excuse for writing posts that look like they should have been written in crayon.
And I don't think it has anything to do with their age, just their lack of manners. I have gotten dressed and cleaned the room while they lie there like they have moved in. I hand them their clothes and then I have actually dressed them while we talk. I then walk them to the door and open it and take our conversation to the hallway. Once they are there I abruptly say "good-bye" and close the door on them.
OOOOOOH I like that idea Heather. Never thought of it that way. I always try to be polite, you know...but sometimes they just take advantage and it p*sses me off because I don't want to be rude and at the sametime they don't seem to care. So Frustrating.
The things I have dealt with in 7 months you wouldn't believe. People haggling, shorting me,utter disrespect once I was slapped so hard I had to cover my face with make-up, another time choked even when I said to stop..... lucky for me I don't weigh 100lbs so I'm able to stop that real quick. so yeah we deal with a lot. Not all money is good, I'll tell you that much.
I am saying this as a friend. Time wasters are one thing but you're talking about physical abuse here. You was able to fend off that guy but there are guys you will not be able to fend off. I know someone who was beat hard and raped. She failed to screen had she screened she would have found the guy had a well documented history of disrespectfull behavior. If your running into lots of bad behavior up to violence you need to up your screening. Not all money is good money. Your too important to risk yourself like that. Everyone is. Please take care.
It's crazy, I also think it's the mood. Ive had guys that have treated me amazing and other providers in such a manner you wouldn't think it's the same person. So even with proper screening all it takes is that one bad day that might make someone snap.
If you are constantly running into issues it isn't one client in a funk or whatever. There is another issue that needs addressing. That is all I am saying. Patterns mean something.
There's a fine (or maybe not-so-fine) line between being a gracious hostess and laying down like a doormat.
Every time someone is dragging his feet like that I'm very clear that I have to leave very shortly as well to make it to my nail appt., hair appt., yoga class, prostate exam (lol), gotta pick up my car from the shop, yadda yadda yadda.
I gotta go RIGHT NOW so you have to go too. I'll walk you out (don't let the door hit ya), had a wonderful time (could you move ANY slower?!) but unfortunately if I don't leave this very minute I'll be late for my Dr. appointment to check out this suspicious-looking rash.......
I have done that I tell them and still, how can some people be so inconsiderate, you know what I mean? It's not even the older gents its usually the younger guys and I think it's because they have nothing to do after. I'm a doormat for sure, I'm going to take yours and Heather's advice and just make up something and walk them to the door. If they write a review saying I was rushing them out Oh fu*king well. Tired of losing money with nonsense like that.
Thanks for your advice sweetie im going to try it.
Why not bring his own drink of choice next time? If he has certain drink request. Also mention you have another appointment if he is not getting the hint to leave.
Posted By: RoxanneHeartNYC
Hi boys and girls
I hate to discriminate, really I do. These young guys do it to me ALL the time, if they don't do it upon arrival they'll do it before they leave. (By "IT" I mean something utterly stupid. )
So tell me, how yesterday I had a client in his 20's, okay fine. He comes in whatever, formalities out of the way. Fast forward the session has ended. I ask him nicely to hurry he was already 10mins over. He says "okay", so I'm getting ready, cleaning this and that. 5 mins go by and he's still Nonchalantly laying on the bed, he turns on the tv and I'm like "sweetie you have to go" (Mind you, he's not PAYING for extra time not even a tip.) "Oh ok, I won't even take a shower"he says, then 3 mins later he decides he wants a shower. Fine he takes his sweet time in the shower. Comes out and he's just taking his time drying up. So when he finally gets dressed he's like "oh do you have soda?" I just look at him and say yes, I give him a diet pepsi. "Oh I don't like diet Pepsi do you have anything else....?" I'm like "no sweetie I don't". "Can I have some your blue label?" I say No, the bottle wasn't open and on top of that HE HAD TO GO. He tells me next time I should have a bigger selection of beverages. I just look at him and open the door.
Da f*ck my man, am I a Convenience store, yeah go back to the bathroom behind the curtain there's a secret door that leads to my Convenience store and Narnia at that. F*ck you mean i need a bigger selection. I can't do it with these young guys, man!
My question to you all is....How do I tell a client he has to go without sounding money hungry and without ruining the fantasy?In this case I was already dressed and he was still taking his time.
You really can't. If he doesn't want to leave, he just won't...and he will purposely be as difficult as he can about being pushed out.
I literally gave a client water bottle 'for the ride home' - handed him his coat...offered to help him put the coat on as he stood there yapping...held the door open...and guess what he did? He went back to the couch and put his feet up. 'Hmmm, I guess you want me to leave now, ' he said. Then ...'Yap, yap, yap'. I was pleasant, but basically noncommittal and unresponsive as he attempted to continue the conversation. I kept mentioning some things I needed to look up, and places I needed to go later that day. He finally left, after sticking around a full 45 min beyond his time (1 hour, of course...the cheapest date). He went on my only-see-when-broke list. I haven't seen him since (that was summer 2010).
The only thing you can do is look for those tendencies in his pre-date communication. Does he write a polite email and say, 'I'd like two hours at 6PM'? Or is he more like: 'Hmmm, maybe an hour-ish...I don't know what time, when are you avail? 4PM, or maybe 8...when I'm done work, I guess. Well, it'll be 7ish. Oh, and this is incall, right? Good. Where are you located? Oh, you're at XX? Oh, that's kind of far. I'll be later than, maybe around 8:30'...then at 7PM...'I'm ready now, are you avail? I'm at the corner and can't wait'.
You'll notice that the clients who are extremely polite and punctilious in pre-date communication tend to book the time they need, and are much more reliable.
Another option is not to offer one hour dates, or offer them very selectively... I barely remember any one-hour dates that were truly only one hour. People tend to book them, but use any excuse to stay longer (as you saw). If you offer longer dates only, men tend to book how much time they want and need.
That's what I was thinking of doing, just starting at 1.5 rates. Guys that tend to book an hr always take their time. It's either that or me losing my cheery demeanor.
After the time is up his fantasy is not your concern, your time is. If he is dragging his feet and deliberately disrespecting your time and thus you after gently reminding him his time is up, it is OK to be blunt. If he is still so disrespectfull as to not vacate with haste never see the ass again. You do not need disrespectfull clients. No lady does.
I was going to ask if you have explicit instructions that eluded to time and going over etc, but I saw on your website that you do. I think it comes down to comfort level, respect, etc. You come across on these TER board posts as someone who is very warm, and caring and not ass-holish (if thats a word). And since I have spoken with you via pm that seems to be true, but nonetheless at some times with certain people you have to be assertive and aggressive, notice I said some people.
I would suggest maybe inquiring about how long so and so has been in the hobby, age, read their TER reviews (if they have them) to get a sense of the type of client that you're dealing with before hand, as you know they fully know what to expect before meeting you. Also, upon initial contact being made, ask said client if they have read your etiquette policies and fully understand them, maybe dropping a certain hint on points of recent frustration i.e. staying over allotted time, bad hygiene, intrusive questioning, etc. All in all it just seems like you were dealing with a "young" guy who was either clueless or rather arrogant in his ways. For those people I would suggest flat out saying, you need to go, your past your time, no you can't take a shower because you are already over your allotted time and I have another client scheduled. At that point I don't think his feelings matter and hopefully you had made your mind up not to see him again.
I know, I just hate being mean and/or rude but on the other hand what else is left to do. If they are going to be offended because you are asking them to leave then it really doesn't matter how I say it. After the time is up I'm just going to be blunt.
Please tell me that you have reconsidered. If you can't deal with the simple issue of getting a guy to leave after his time is up, do you REALLY think you are qualified to mentor other women?
As for your OP, it's simple. Just like in almost everything else to do with the hobby, there is no single "one size fits all" answer to this problem" Some guys will leave of their own accord, never needing to be prompted. Others will need a gentle nudge and still others will literally need to be dragged to the door.
Goodness you are over here thinking i'm giving these girls play by play on how to be hookers. I have nothing against you and don't mean to be disrespectful as I always respect my elders, however, A GENTLEMAN MUST KNOW WHEN TO STOP and also know when someone is being serious. I don't need every thread you write referencing to "Mentoring" what are we 5 yrs old. I can take a little ball breaking here and there but you take it to a whole other level. It was adorable and cute at first now it's just plain annoying. You have to learn when it's okay to say things and when it's not.
So here are some free tips: 1) GaG teased you a bit, but only a bit. It was hardly "to a whole other level." 2) You are coming across as over-sensitive here. This is a mistake on this board, or anywhere else because it only gets a rise out of hard core ball-busters and makes them want to keep it up. You don't really need to protect yourself from GaG. He's a pussy cat. Or was that a pussy hound?
You OTOH did suggest that you were qualified to be a mentor after all of about an hour and a half in the business, and about fifteen minutes here on the boards, every second of which was spent broadcasting instead of receiving.
As for being serious, should I assume that your many and varied anecdotal, first person stories should also be taken with a HUGE grain of salt?
and I am SOOOOOOO happy you once found me adorable and cute. Most of the time I am an "acquired taste" ,but of course in your case you are much too busy posting to do really do much reading or comprehending of what other people have to say. Not that there is anything wrong with keyboard diarrhea, just saying take a breath every once and a while, you are hardly the poster child to be telling anyone when it is or is not okay to say things. Or were you appointed board cop when I wasn't looking?
Ummmm...... I'm thinking from my views as a client, I will say that I'm always conscious of time. But that question has a multitude of answers. 1) You should be aware of the allotted time at all times. If your aim is to give your clients or that particular client the best session possible, then you may go over, but that all depends on your scheduling, preparation for the next client, etc. 2) How many times has he popped during the allotted time already. If he's "went" twice already and thats your standard norm, then you as the orchestrator of the symphony has to make a decision before engaging in the 3rd play, see number 1. 3) Go to your "go to" move. I don't doubt that all providers have something that is unique about them or that they do best, whether it's talking dirty, looking into his eyes with that gaze, BBBJ or BBBj with hand action, etc. I call it the "finish him" (think Mortal Kombat) LMAO. With that being said, I'd really hate to be going to pound town and trying to catch a rhythm and be told "Your times up." That would suck.
and knew you were going to go overtime without offering more money or even asking if she had the time to spare. I do not want a trick like that so at that point I am pissed and want the dick to leave. Decent clients do not pull this shit. Assholes do.
Firstly, you should be keeping an eye on the clock (tip: some women use playlists structured for 60/120/etc. mins, with songs cued to remind her of the time). If he's trying to start it back up with 10 minutes to go, then you either offer to extend (with payment) or wrap it up (shower time!). If you're in the middle of sex, just tell him that you have another appointment or somewhere else to be and give him a few minutes to finish. If that doesn't work, don't feel bad about pushing him off - he's the inconsiderate one hogging your time!
......the gentleman was having a difficult time getting Mr. Happy to cooperate. He'd never had a duo session and was experiencing some performance anxiety, to say the least. The fact that my "partner" was not exactly a GFE did NOT help matters at all....
So he's finally got good wood, straining, I can tell he's almost there and then my "partner" suddenly blurts out, "You'd better come soon, cuz you've only got 5 minutes left!"
He instantly went totally limp.
I wanted to strangle her.
But I restrained myself, apologized to him (while she huffed off, got dressed, and left without me) and offered to try a little longer.... he declined. But he did wind up being a regular of mine for awhile after that.
Sometimes going a little above and beyond can pay off.
...it can come across as being mean-spirited by cutting someone off at an exact time that can lead to hurt feelings and loss business.
I do like your attitude, though, and I’m glad it worked for you as it does sound like you won that customer’s trust to come back and see you.
As far as time, its judgment call that may call for some flexibility (within reason) to which customer is abusing the time and which one is not abusing it
As far as time, its judgment call that may call for some flexibility (within reason) to which customer is abusing the time and which one is not abusing it.
Yes, that's exactly right!
It's all about finding the right balance between good customer service and allowing someone to take advantage, IMO, and each situation is a tiny bit different from the next. Always be courteous, of course, but also always trust your instincts.
Debbie, in attitude, you’re my kind of woman. (BTW: Nice pics and good reviews of you, too). I’ll keep an eye out for you if and when traveling to my area.
who was being taken advantage of, might see it as a screening tool. I will allow 5 over and that's it. Then you take another 5 or ten for the shower...so that's 15 over and after that you had better reach for your wallet. I swear most guys guys know what they are doing and take advantage. And I do not want a guy who does this as a client so no lost business as far as I am concerned.
On another note, a decent guy can get away with far more, extra time OFFERED BY ME if he is sincere and respectful to sit and chat or take a leisurely shower and not be rushed out. I don't extend the sex time...without payment. Nothing personal just a business decision.
I want to finish, if physically possible, & it IS possible. BUT my feeling is that as we approach "time" the rules change. I have discussed this with my Favs... I certainly know if it's taking a long time. I'm ok with a switch to a BJ with plenty of hand & even a HJ. "What ever it takes!" That is WHY they are my Favs...
I know gals who have different music tracks that all are about the right time. A FBSM gal I saw had a small travel clock. We couldn't see her bedside clock but after a year or so, I noticed the travel clock was off to the side, always in whichever room we played in. LOL! I never caught her looking at it... Some gals just have a good sense of time, I suppose.
Tricks that start with 5 or tn minutes to go before times up KNOW what they are doing to lengthen the session.
I have stopped and always will. Good thing I have only run into two assholes that tried this and they did not get their way. Times up, I have friends dropping over, so sorry you started with s little time left BUT you knew that so I don't feel bad...was what I said.
Guys wh do this pretty much do this to see how far they can push a hooker. If you push back they usually cave. BUT there is that threat of a shitty review that you rushed them however I could care less about that. They're out!
He ought to be finished pretty close to time. I've had Fav ladies who were not pressed for time & frankly, I think they liked to have some company... but, even so, when the time was up, we were getting dressed. Another Fav, would often leave with me... take the cash to the bank... I don't think it was an excuse but who knows. Clearly, I don't know your schedule, if you might have an hour to shower & relax, possibly get ready for another guest... or go to the store, the bank or what ever. If you tell him, it's time to go... it's time to go. As a guy... I don't want to be rushed, but any of us here respect that we don't know & if we are over time, no foul in pushing the guy out. Dress him if you must. Hate to rush you but you are over time, no time for a shower. You are not doing him any favors by letting him abuse your schedule.
We all want our clients to feel comfortable and enjoy their time with us. This guy has taken total advantage of you. He flat out disrespected you and your time. Getting a bit firm or bitchy over this is perfectly acceptable. He was stealing from you!!! His fantasy ended when his time ended. Unless you advertise that you have a large variety of drinks he doesn't need to make comments like that. You treated him a lot nicer than a lot of ladies would have. Basically, he was stealing from you by using time he didn't pay for. He gave no consideration to the fact that you are a human with a personal life and responsibilities. These kind of guys go straight to my "NO" list.
You did nothing wrong. He did wrong and doesn't deserve the pleasure of your company again.
Posted By: RoxanneHeartNYC
Hi boys and girls
I hate to discriminate, really I do. These young guys do it to me ALL the time, if they don't do it upon arrival they'll do it before they leave. (By "IT" I mean something utterly stupid. )
So tell me, how yesterday I had a client in his 20's, okay fine. He comes in whatever, formalities out of the way. Fast forward the session has ended. I ask him nicely to hurry he was already 10mins over. He says "okay", so I'm getting ready, cleaning this and that. 5 mins go by and he's still Nonchalantly laying on the bed, he turns on the tv and I'm like "sweetie you have to go" (Mind you, he's not PAYING for extra time not even a tip.) "Oh ok, I won't even take a shower"he says, then 3 mins later he decides he wants a shower. Fine he takes his sweet time in the shower. Comes out and he's just taking his time drying up. So when he finally gets dressed he's like "oh do you have soda?" I just look at him and say yes, I give him a diet pepsi. "Oh I don't like diet Pepsi do you have anything else....?" I'm like "no sweetie I don't". "Can I have some your blue label?" I say No, the bottle wasn't open and on top of that HE HAD TO GO. He tells me next time I should have a bigger selection of beverages. I just look at him and open the door.
Da f*ck my man, am I a Convenience store, yeah go back to the bathroom behind the curtain there's a secret door that leads to my Convenience store and Narnia at that. F*ck you mean i need a bigger selection. I can't do it with these young guys, man!
My question to you all is....How do I tell a client he has to go without sounding money hungry and without ruining the fantasy?In this case I was already dressed and he was still taking his time.
He asked for a pepsi 15mins AFTER his time and I offer him diet and he said he didn't like that. in fact he said I should have a better selection of beverages. Yep he said that, apparently I'm the nearest thing to a 7-11 :P
LOL, I understood THAT... I only meant the spelling of "convenience store" vs. "convince store". Frankly, I think you were a saint for not kicking his a$$ out the door!
Have a pic of a huge bodybuilder type guy that the john can see, then set your alarm on your phone to go off at the right time and "answer it" and speak as if the BF is on his way over. Let the trick know he is on his way, then show him the pic. You don't need time vampires and that should get rid of him PDQ.
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that would make him run. My Fiance the cop I'll say lol
. Maybe Roxanne can be our guinea pig
You are so right. I'm not seeing him again! What a jerk!