That is a bit of an eye opener. I wonder if that assumes a sore or some kind of opening in the mouth.

But thanks for posting the chart.

Everyone has an agenda.

Truth means nothing to anyone any longer.

Do the real research on condoms. I mean actually track down the copies of the legit published studies and read them. Then get a scientist to help you understand it - that means someone without a bias. You know what you will find???

Condoms' effectiveness in disease prevention are incredible inflated and that disinformation has been propagated (unknowingly) by universities and organizations everywhere.

It's not a conspiracy or any bull like that. It's just that wrong understanding is the norm on most things medical, health etc involving sex.

You ca even find this admitted in documents you are able to track down at us.gov sites.

Do what you think is best.

Myself, I don't buy into everything like this I read.


HH

I know a lot of people on here like to look at the risks associated with various acts.  I found this matrix which shows the risks for both giver and receiver.
http://healthnurse.wordpress.com/faq-about-sexual-health/sti-risks-chart/

After reading this chart and doing some more research, I am unfortunately out for BBBJ.  The high risk of catching Chlamydia, Gonorrhoea, Herpes or one of the other STDs is too great now that I have a long term SO.  For me, it's about protecting her as much as myself.  Unfortunately, CBJs kinda suck so I guess I will just have to enjoy the protected intercourse.  I also don't think I could do DATY anymore although the risks appear to be slightly lower, they're still risky.  

This is the unfortunate world that we live in today.  Truthfully, I don't even like to go to girls that do BBBJ even if they cover me.  I must be getting old but the idea that she might have had diseased cum in her mouth recently makes me not want to kiss her and that is my last bastion of unprotected pleasure with these women.  Curious to hear what others think about the chart.

....is that they are too general.  For example, this chart indicates that a man receiving a BBBJ is at high risk ("HR" on their chart) of contracting the following diseases:

Gonorrhea
Syphilis
Chlamydia
HPV
HSV

Those same diseases are also "HR" for a person engaging in unprotected vaginal or anal intercourse!!  Whereas multiple studies have shown that the risks from oral sex are NOWHERE near the risks for intercourse, especially for the receiver.  See the linked article from Brown University as just one example.  (And I apologize for using the terms "anal" and "Brown University" in the same paragraph!)

Everyone has to determine their own comfort level of course.  But if you label everything as "high risk," the term starts to lose all meaning.  I'm comfortable with receiving BBBJTC from independent escorts, because as the receiver, I believe the risk to be very very low.  Not impossible, but also not likely.

Well I think the thing to remember about syphilis is that it isn't very prevalent anymore in developed countries like the US and Britain.  I'd be much more concerned about getting herpes from a provider during a DFK because of the high rates of herpes.  I read when doing research that 55% of women in the US who have had more then 10 sexual partners have HSV-2.  Many providers have more than 10 partners in a week so the rate of HSV-2 has got to be high.  Also, there is something called asymptomatic viral shedding where the virus spreads without the person having an outbreak...it's rare but it happens, happens enough that a ton of people have herpes.  I'd worry less about syphilis if you're taking the basic precautions and more about herpes which seems to be just about everywhere and can be transmitted even when you're really cautious.

There is a lot of data/ are a lot of charts out there.  Just search prior threads on this board and/or the Erotic Highway.  Classifying something as "Low Risk" or "High risk" without giving more specific incident rates or even really defining those terms is relatively useless.  My reading of this chart suggests that "high risk" could be 2% or 10% or 50%.  Sure, it's useful infor, but there is much more precise stuff out there.

That goes double for links on the internet.

Flu has probably killed more people than anything else and its probably more contagious than any STD. I know I have gotten the flu from the hobby several times, in addition to civvies.

My advice is to never leave home and hope you don't slip in the tub and die. A ribbed condom could have provided the necessary traction needed to avoid such a disaster.

The problem with your logic is that accidents are accidents, but these behaviors are your choice.  Also the flu is not generally life threatening in the developed world.  

Regardless, some of us are looking for information so we can make better informed choices and we come here to discuss with fellow hobbyists their experiences and knowledge.  Of course you need to take everything you read on the internet with a grain of salt but much of it is reliable too.  You can bury your head in the sand as much as you want as to the risks you may or may not be taking but that's not my problem.  I want to understand the risks as much as possible so I don't endanger myself and those around me.

Totally fair points.  Appreciate your perspective.

The flu is life threatening, but if they develop a vaccine for head burial in sand, I'll let you know. LOL.

Kid,
Your source is a nurse's blog! That's the most unprofessional resource imaginable. Go to the CDC site or try Pubmed. Do some real research, before you come here to teach us how to play. Your credibility is shot! If you can't handle the risk then go f-ck ya motha!
E.ATF

The chart is pretty accurate as far as I know and I do not because I have plenty of education about STD.  Any of this activities done without protection is of course at risk.  If the provider has the STD, you will most likely get it from her.  That's why I don't understand why anyone would do BBBJ or unprotected intercourse.  I am even scare of kissing.......how do you know if the provider has a sore in the mouth.  You got to play smart.

Looking at this chart it is posted on a blog which does not appear to be professionally done and also does not account for any actual statistics.

While I do agree that certain sex acts carry with them inherently greater risk factors I would say this particular chart is worthless and was created by some night time blogger with nothing better to do than create a chart to satisfy their own feelings/opinions on the matter in question.

That is afterall the  beauty of the internet... anyone can write what they want and people take it as fact... I'll never understand why people believe everything in print!?!?!!?!

Fog

yeah, nurses...you know the ones that treat you when you come in crying about the sore on your peen.  It's one perspective from somebody who works in the trenches.  Not a stiff in a lab coat who is dropping herpes virus on a petri dish.  I found their perspective to be non-judgmental and objective, albeit a little anecdotal.  

And keep your jerkoff pics of Joe Pesce to yourself...

There is always some risk. Its better to be safe than sorry some stds are easier to catch than others. Herpes just skin to skin contact with infected person and you got it... the gift that keeps on giving. Always play safe cover up.