I know this topic has probably been done to death. In fact, I just spoke on this a few days ago. But I just had two people contact me  about discounts in the past 15 minutes and it really irritated me.

I guess the new thing now is to offer to give the provider oral in exchange for a discount.

As much as I love to give oral, receiving oral has never been at the top of my turn ons, probably because I love penetration so much But even if I did really enjoy oral, I don't see why I should give you a discount for it. Maybe back in the day this would have been exciting for some females, but now there are so many men and women that give oral that it is no longer hard to find a way to satisfy that urge.

So excuse me if I didn't jump out of my panties (if I was wearing any, lol) at your offer to give me oral.

My enjoyment of the session has no effect on the donation. Whether I had a miserable time or one of the best times of my life, the rate will be the same.

I just wanted peoples thoughts on this. Hobbyists: do you think you deserve a discount in exchange for "gratifying" the provider in any way. I know that most hobbyists don't expect this, but I wanted to know your thoughts.
Prviders: do your ever offer discounts for this reason? I just wanted to know if it was just me or is this an acceptable practice.

Thanks

Just how much cheaper do these skinflints expect?

A plumber charges more to fix my pipes than you do to "clean my pipes" lol

you have so few choices of those to give you oral pleasure

And, times are really, really tough for me

And, we're experiencing a flair up of solar storms which have driven me temporarily crazy.

I think that about covers it.

Luckily no one has ever given me $100 bill and asked for change back

I used to not do 15 minute sessions, but I had a few people suggest that I do them (not hobbyists but other providers in the Atlanta area)

I do believe my rates are too low, especially for the amount of effort I put into my sessions, but I am also realistic. I'm a new face (became a provider in February but actually really started taking a lot of calls in May). In Atlanta, it's very competitive so I looked at a lot of other providers and tried to lower mine a bit.

That's why I get really pissed off. You're already getting a really good deal and you still want to haggle with me. Once I receive a text or email that is asking for a discount, I immediately block that person from contacting me.

I know it may be a little extreme, but by that point I am so turned off with that person that I don't want to see them. Period.

I'm a guy who never ask for discounts, unless that's what the ads says.

Problem is my regular always come up with drama "Oh I have this problem ..and I need to buy this ...  I know its none of your biz, but would appreciate a tip".

But sure seems like a win-win to me! Lol……

Seriously---No. I doubt any providers are offering discounts for this. Idiotic to even ask.

That kind of thing is one fast way to get on my Do Not See and Do Not Answer the Danmed Call list!

One of my worst clients ever, cheap, always wanting it for less, trying to extend time, and trying to bargain, barter, kinive, complain, etc.  At the end of the last session I ever allowed him to have, he said I should pay him since I had so many orgasms with him DATY.  Of course, I had faked all of those....what an idiot.  Fat, Hairy, Smelly, Rude, Condescending, and "I should pay him".  

The last thing a provider needs is some guy to supposedly get her off.  Like they don't get enough sex or something.  

The problem with being kind and considerate and really making a guy think he is special during the session, is that some of them are so delusional, they think suddenly that they really are doing something for you and that you should be grateful and discount the service or pay them.  Guys like that don't deserve the efforts of a beautiful lady..  Just cut them off and that's it.

Could it be that you are looking for attention here on this board.

For someone who offers 15 minute sessions and change for large bills, it could be possible I guess. rofl

I just looked at your CV website. You're already offering 30 for $100.00. From the pics on your website, you're more than worth it. If you lived in vegas, with those prices, I'd be seeing you once a week.

As far as the pics go, I think you'd do better with less outside ones. It might make guys think you do, or have done, streetwalking. A few of you in a tub fillied with bubbles or sprawled out on some satin sheets would look awesome.

Any discount for this advice?

Ask Discounts = less payment (benefits hobbyist)

Ask Tips = more payment (benefits Providers)

It's two sides of the same coin.

Now, if you don't see that, your head needs purging

I doubt that any TER members are calling you to negotiate.
If you are going to be a cheap ho, then you will attract cheap johns. It is that simple.
You don't want to come on here and bitch every time the bottom feeders call you when you are advertising to them.

I know another lady who does $100 for HH and is well-reviewed here in TER. $100 is very reasonable for what I see in your pic.  Do you have your own apartment or incall place?

First, it's a false construct; second, the OP said: "I guess the new thing now is to offer to give the provider oral in exchange for a discount." I take that as the topic being discussed. So, I don't accept your tortured logic.

from what i have discovered,you couldn't get laid by a fucking whore offering discounts even. Well one who would declare herself a lady anyways. Your best bet is your lefthand isn't it? How many languages can you say "Dumbass" in?

Donation will be adjusted for special requests.

I seriously doubt it. I fuck all the time, very rarely pay for it. Here's my stats.... mid 20s, 6'3", 260lbs, tattoed and piecings, great hair, 9 inch cock. Just this weekend, I fucked 2 girls who friended me on facebook. I perform stand up comedy around the country and always have girls buy me drinks or give me their numbers. That's me. Your turn, stud.

Me and my brother are cheap because we are poor.

As I just posted on the vegas board, I'm pretty much done with this place. People like the poster above simply bore me. It's the same old conversations. Same 5 or 6 posters in every thread. Same arguments. Same corny insults. Same old, same old. I would think a forum dedicated to fucking working girls would be more interesting and fun. But it isn't.

I'll not name name, but some of you have been cool. Feel free to keep in touch.

Yoda out.

People are hitting you up for discounts because they are inferring you are open to the possibility.

Every lady gets hit up for a discount once in a while, but few have it so frequently.

I am just hitting the high spots and (of course) since I am not a provider, you can feel perfectly free to tell me that since I don't own a vagina, I must automatically be wrong. (*grin*)

Looking at your Cityvibe ad ...

1. Change the word "student" to "educated." Students are always starving and hard-up for cash. Educated people have options. Yes? One exception to this is if you can credibly claim "graduate student." It doesn't have quite the same connotation.

2. Either ditch the 30 min and shorter sessions (preferred) or charge more for them. Sorry, but especially when you start getting under half an hour, it conveys a certain ... impression. You need to disincentivize these by raising the rates at least 50% for you sessions of 30 min or less ... unless you just make them disappear.

Looking at your website ...

1. Full frontal view of your pussy is the first thing I see?

It is one thing to have such pictures elsewhere on your site; quite another for that to be the very first thing potential clients see. It just screams "all I am is a piece of ass." Sorry. Because I know that's not true. But that's the impression it conveys.


2. Delete your calendar or fill the damned thing up. Combined with the "student" motif it makes it appear that you are without any business/demand and likely to be amenable to negotiation.

These are just things that come immediately to mind. There are others I won't get into.

The bottom line is that, IMO, your web presence makes you more subject to attempts at negotiation than it should.

The second bottom line is, of course, feel free to ignore what I am saying -- it is intended in good faith to be helpful.

.....Ass Wipe!!!!!

You explained how I feel very eloquently.

I once had a client ask me why do I act like the sex is so good. I just kind of laughed and brushed it off, but I wanted to say that it is my job. That's what I'm supposed to do.

I'm not saying it has never been good, it has never been good enough to warrant a discount, especially since the "orgasm" you thought I achieved with you could have very easily been achieved by myself.

I'm really not sure what's up with a couple of the posts near the bottom. I was just asking if more clients are asking for discounts in exchange for oral.

This is not the norm for me. Out of 30 calls, maybe one person asks for a discount. Today is the first time I have ever had a client ask for a discount in exchange for oral.

My rates were not up for debate. As I have stated before, I know my rates are low, but Atlanta is a very saturated market. I have advertised on all types of sites, spending up to $300 a week.

I guess since my post have been viewed as "whining" I will save all the complainers the trouble of viewing my posts.

Thanks to everyone who gave helpful insight.

For regulars, I allow incall at my apartment. For new clients I only do incall at a hotel.

I do appreciate your suggestions. A lot of things I do as far  as my ads go or my website goes has been from comments from other providers or people who run agencies.

I see so many providers that offer 30 minute sessions, I thought that it was a major commodity. I only added 15 minute sessions after I was told by a few people that a lot of clients also like to have that option.

I know markets are different in different cities and states so what works in NYC doesn't necessarily work in Atlanta (just an example).

I'm definitely open to your suggestions and even the ones you didn't want to mention in the post. If you're open to it, I would like to see them via message.

I guess my main concern has been will dropping the 30 minute sessions cause my amount of calls to drop dramatically.

LMAO

You're in Atlanta and in the south - 30 minutes is very common.

If you only do 1 hour, your calls will surely drop.

5-start escorts in the south offer 30 minutes, so why shouldn't you.  NY is a very different market.

of this tee shirt!!!!

You are the complete wiper of other peoples bottoms!

No alias needed.

You are intelligent and articulate.

You'll have a PM from me soon.

Meanwhile, to directly answer your question ...

No. I do not expect a discount for giving a provider oral.

Many many providers have posted that all of their "orgasms" are fake. This means that in many cases anyway, oral is simply something a provider tolerates for the pleasure of her client -- not herself.

In general, (I said generally, not in all cases) a woman is decided less likely to enjoy sex *at all* with any man who is not her chosen mate.

Even if her chosen mate looks like Quasimodo, sponges off of her to live and can't think his way out of a wet paper sack; as her chosen mate, he is infinitely more capable of bringing her sexual pleasure than a non-chosen client without regard to that client's virtues.

A woman's sexuality is complex and lies mainly between her ears. A third of women are anorgasmic anyway -- and I see no reason why that wouldn't apply equally to providers. Moreover, while many of the responses of the female orgasm have an autonomic aspect; those responses can be overridden by her conscious mind.

A client can be twice as handsome and otherwise super-attractive and do the exact same things to a provider that her chosen mate would do; and not produce orgasm simply because of her consciousness that he is a client -- at least in some cases.

So ... why in the world should a client expect a discount for giving you oral?

The answer then is "no" -- I would not expect a discount for giving oral. Any man making such a request has a serious misunderstanding of the female organism.

HOWEVER, because some "orgasms" (I'm not saying that ALL are fake -- some are indeed real.) are accompanied by really bad acting ... bad acting that I believe should be discouraged ... I believe that any woman who claims I have given her more than 10 orgasms in less than 3 minutes owes me $100 for every "orgasm" over the tenth.

Are you some little bitch who has to get all fucking theatrical on us like a teenaged girl?

Just quit fucking posting, I doubt anyone here will even notice. Who the fuck are you any how? I barely recognize the name.

i could surely sink my teeth into her. I should stop before all the other trollops get testi.

that there are some men who think they are doing a provider a favor by DATY when in reality, most providers just go along with it and certainly don't Need another guy DATY on any given day.  But there are clients out there that are pretty delusional about a lot of aspects of their experience.  It's the illusion that contributes to the pleasure of the experience.  Unfortunately, a good provider doing a good job sometimes only makes that man's delusions worse and then he acts inappropriately, forgetting that this was a service and the point of the service was to give him satisfaction and make him feel like one hell of a lover.

But under no circumstances should the provider feel she should get less money for doing one of the acts that this client wants.  That's ridiculous.  So Cynamon, don't let it get to you.  Stand your ground.  You are who you are, and all men have different things they are attracted to.  Some want to see "highly educated" or "older and well travelled", or "feisty and street smart".   Some men want the "student" fantasy, but when it comes to business, a deal is a deal is a deal.  Stand your ground.

And yes, it is the lower end clients that try this stuff.  Unfortunately, in this economy there is a lot of gray area.  There are men who can only afford 200 trying to see $500 ladies and trying to do it by being manipulative and sneaky.  These are just tactics and ploys they are using to try and get over.  Delete, Delete, Delete.  

Hang in there and don't let the strong and differing opinions upset you.  People here have had a very broad range of differing experiences that has shaded the way they see things.  These are valid from their perspective but don't work from yours.