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Deposits?
balathazar 1 Reviews 1805 reads
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The post below has made me think of the reason for deposits. If a flight is paid for, and the hotel is booked and paid for, why would a lady need a deposit for her time? She is losing out on nothing if he happens to pull a no show because flight and room is already paid.

On the reverse, though, is what happens to the poor guy in the post below. If she happens to pull a no show he is out a good sum of money.

I don't think the argument of "lost income" because a provider could have had appointments with others has any validity. You might have a point if stated as lost "potential" income unless a provider is cancelling set appointments in order to go on the trip. If that is the case that is a whole other kettle of fish.

I was just wondering why a provider would need a deposit.

b-

She still has lost potential income.  Let's say the time is for a weekend, and she could have had 4 appointments over the weekend.   This would be equivalent to her having all 4 pull a no-show, PLUS she's in no position to reclaim that time because she's on a plane or in a strange town.  

Having said that, I never have and never will pay a deposit under any circumstances.   Which means I would likely never find myself in the position of the gentleman below.  Too much risk for me.

There's only so much opportunity for income.

When a plane takes off with empty seats - that revenue opportunity - for those seats - is lost forever.

When a golf course has a tee time go unused - that revenue slot is lost forever

When a doctor, or any professional, sits for an hour with no client - that revenue is lost forever.  

In all these cases to make up for the lost $$ opportunity, you either work overtime, raise rates, extend the work week, or some combination.

THEREFORE...when a penis does not show up for "a booking" - that empty pussy cannot make money for the owner!

I didn't read the post below, so please understand my reply is based on your post alone.

Imagine being a provider who has taken the time to shop, pack and go to the airport, possibly arranging child care and pet sitting.  You endure the long airport lines and the flight where you are seated next to the screaming baby with cholic.  You arrive, catch a cab to the hotel... and wait.

What do you do when the connection gets missed, you are in a city that is not your home base, your flight home doesn't leave for another two or three days... there is absolutely lost income.

When traveling, deposits can be essential.

Yes, there is definitely the possibility of a gentlemen losing his deposit, though if he sticks with well-reviewed providers with a track record of professionalism and reliability, that risk is minimal.  Yes, it has happened.  There is risk for everyone in this game...

I read the post below and learned that the gentleman had paid for her flight and hotel. Not trying to mix apples and oranges here, but as a provider who pays for her own flights and hotels, I rely heavily on clients keeping their word and making their appointments. This did not happen during my last tour in NYC/Long Island (even though most were established clientele or TER members), in fact, I lost money. I could require deposits, but instead choose to visit other cities where I actually make money. It results in a good deal of whining ("when will you be back?!"), but my response to that is if they really want to see me that badly they can hop on a flight and visit me in Portland. It goes both ways. -e

and that was when I was traveling to LA a lot.  I did this because I would book 8 appts for 4 days and over half would cancel last minute or ns/nc, leaving me with the cost of hotels etc.  While it was my choice to go in the first place, I was going to accomadate others that may not always get to Vegas.  So, there was a time I asked for deposits but gave incentive also.  I only asked for $50 first, so basically if the guy cancelled he wouldn't lose a lot but it would help defer my expenses.  If they wanted to make the whole donation up front I was offering an extra hour.  It worked ok until someone nc/ns me and then proceeded to post a bunch of lies on the board and wanted his deposit back.  Needless to say I gave it back but we don't ask for deposits to cheat you gentlemen, at least most of us don't.  Will I require deposits again when I chose to take a trip, most likely not.  

Now if someone wants to fly me to them, chances are I will ask for some kind of a deposit.  Usually only $100 maybe 2 depending on the length of the trip.  I do expect hotel and airfare to be paid if I am coming specifically for you.  The reason most of us do ask for some kind of a deposit is to make sure if we get there and you cancel, then we aren't stuck.  Grant you we may bring some money with us but not much because we are suppose to be coming to make money.  So, if you cancel then we have cost of food, cab to and from the airport etc.  Not all of us have bank accounts that we can go just withdraw money from.  

Do I think it's right for a provider to ask for half or more of a donation, heck no.  Is it right for a provider to find the weakness in some guys and use them to get what they want and not honor their part, nope!  But I look at it this way.  One guy can make it hard on you guys as far as screening etc because he decides to hurt a provider or cheat her out of her donation.  One provider can make it hard on the rest of us who are honest and ask for a small portion of our donation by stealing, not honoring the agreement and not having the audacity (sp) to return the donation when she can't make it or choses not to come.

Happy Holidays,
Tasha

In the case you proffer I do not think a deposit is necessary or warranted. The fact that the 'gentleman' has already paid for the flight and hotel should be enough to tell the lady he will show up. Lets face it hotel rooms are not cheap and if the guy pays for them and then no shows he's just an idiot. Of course that presumes the hotel is a nice hotel and not the local motel 6 ;)

In the case of a traveling lady, who is paying her own way, I can understand the need for a small deposit to lock in a time slot. I've known ladies who have traveled to a city and had their time booked up and then 75% of the gents either canceled or NCNS.

Would I pay a deposit? The general answer is no, however; all rules can be broken. I would consider paying a deposit for a well reviewed lady and if the deposit was reasonable (e.g. less then $100). But again as a general rule, I would not do it.

I don't travel, so I don't deal with any of that headache, but I've heard stories where girls show up specifically to see someone and that paid for hotel isn't paid, that ticket is a one way all of a sudden and the client is nowhere in sight. I think if she's flying out to see you, then if you're serious, leave her a deposit, but choose your provider wisely.

Katie

Not necessary for a 1- or 2-hr. appointment.  If you are talking about an overnight or longer, then I can see the validity.  As Katie said, "Chose your provider wisely."

In virtually every legal avenue of commerce there are a number of legal methods to recover a deposit in the event of non-performance by the person or business that accepted it. In this situation there is none. That is the primary reason that I do not make a deposit. It is also the reason why I do not think that the lady should ask for one. After all trust is mutual, requesting payment on faith with no recourse is asking for trust on only ONE side of the deal.

  That said, I do not consider paying for airfare on a non-convertible ticket and a room in advance to be a deposit. It shows good faith and in the event of a no-show the ticket can be refunded and the room used for other opportunities.

-J

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