Oh I forgot to mention she agreed to see me and once I told her I don’t send deposit that’s when she went bar shit crazy.😂😂😂😂😂
I see so many providers that fell like they are entitled, we provide them with the trips the cars rent and everything else they have if they don’t have a regular 9-5. We need to stop paying outrageous prices for SWers. I had a provider tell me this:
I can tell you’re not used to my policies bc of the ladies you’ve seen in the past. Only 2 of them have websites or charge more than $400/hr. No doubt you’ve been burned by the backpage & adult search types.
You obviously have not been exposed to the more high end side of the industry. That’s a shame and you shouldn’t judge a well respected and revered companion such as myself by the idiotic mistakes of others who clearly are not on my level.
Quality, Not Quantity ..
Kisses
Sheila
Yeah and you charge below $400 so you would be one of the back page girls she was talking about LMAO so stupid.
wrong place if your goal is to bash providers. In a nanosecond you will be like chum floating in shark infested waters and revealed as the true POS your post makes you sound like.
Sad, simply, sad! Even your grandchildren know better. Why not take a lesson from them?
This is why I like TER POS like yourself like to talk big and bad on your keyboard in your moms basement.
stupidity of your posts. Your words reveal just what an ignorant fool you are. You can not run from it, you opened up who you are to the world. Your words reflect how you think and exactly what you are made of. And it is NOT pretty! Get a grip!
Lesson #1: If you do not like what a provider says or does, move on. This IS a hobby and meant for enjoyment. Whenever something happens to bring out that mean-spirited side that you and few others have, something is wrong. Even a dummy like you should be able to figure this out.
Lesson #2: Did you ever think that if you, and ONLY you are so bent out of shape from hobbying, that maybe something is wrong? Maybe YOU are the problem! No other whiney, cry-baby posts like yours here. Wonder why? Take a look in the mirror jocko.
Google is your friend, why not do yourself a favor and use it to find someone to help you with your issues?
Common denominator...
I book from p411 her issue was with me not paying deposit. And she went in her rant. Hence the title of my post (Entitled).
but of course even if you had there would still be a bunch of hookers (and spineless johns) defending her response to you.
Personally I get very little of this kind of thing on P 411, it's one of the reasons I book almost all my sessions through them, and yes, most of us will agree that sending any kind of deposit is just plain dumb. I find the very idea that I am going to send a deposit that I will most likely never see again to someone who won't even give me her real name completely laughable. I am just thankful that those kind of BSC hookers are a tiny minority of the women we will find on P 411.
It seems they have all conspired together to ask for them and its not only from the high end girls.
"Required" deposits in socal are more just a suggestion. You can almost always tell them that you're not comfortable with sending them money prior to meeting them and it magically goes away. Turns out, money is money, and turning away good business is no way to make money.
Also, some have a deposit listed on their site, but when you setup an appointment with them a deposit is never mentioned, and I 100% always make sure to keep my mouth shut until they bring it up.
The fact is, deposits are a thing because guys put up with them. If that stopped, they'd disappear overnight.
Not to keep the Messicans out, I LIKE the beaners, especially the chicas who like most immigrants are trying to take advantage of all the opportunities in our great country. It's our western, northern and eastern borders I am worried about.
What's ruining Texas are people flooding in here from places like So Cal where the men are so fucking spineless that they cave into sending deposits to hookers because the hookers DEMAND it. Grow a fucking spine guys, or at the very least don't export your stupidity to Texas where we don't seem to have all of these kind of problems.
How guys can make something as simple as hiring a hooker so fucking complicated is beyond me. I don't blame the girls for looking out for their own interests. I blame the men (and I use that term VERY loosely) for going along with it.
Our snowflakes move to Texas, this state has a knack for minting new ones. As you say, a wall facing California would serve you better.
calipers to measure ball-size at the Texas border? If any state would actually do that, it would probably be Texas. Lol
It could be integrated into every "Welcome to Texas" sign and, if the alarm sounds, the car gets pulled over, turned around, and sent back. For airports and other ports of entry, make the scanning mandatory BEFORE they get on the plane/train/boat . . . just like checking for valid passports and visas.
I like it. Texans might like it too.
Like Gambler says, " Remember there is not a Better Booty Business Bureau" in the hobby. Thus you have very little recourse if she runs with the money. Now if she gave you collateral of equal value then it is something different. However recognize game when it is being run.
Oh I forgot to mention she agreed to see me and once I told her I don’t send deposit that’s when she went bar shit crazy.😂😂😂😂😂
Did you know she wanted a deposit before you booked the date?
Deposite wasn’t mentioned until after I passed screening and date was set.
What was the reasoning for requesting a deposit?
Do you lack provider references?
Was this a request for an overnight, or extended date encounter?
Personally, your slaughter of the English language, and inability to spell would give me reason enough to require partial payment in advance. It's 2020...I figured everyone had spell check on their devices???
My experience has been that some ladies may post or put on their websites that they require deposits, but probably 90% of those ladies that claim to require deposits never asked for one. For many ladies it probably depends on the guy and his credibility/reputation. Net, maybe 1/10 claim to require a deposit and of those maybe 2/10 actually request one. 1/10 x 2/10 = 2/100 =2% of the time that I book a lady requests a deposit. Very small percentage.
Never Pay Deposits; hopefully I never will. Right now there are too many Nice Ladies who trust me. I have never NCNS, or even cancelled.
I agree with your point to some degree that there is an attitude about entitlement. However I want to make it clear that this appears to be specific cases. It is unfair and untrue to state this applies to all Providers.
I have experienced a few providers raised their prices and are offering less on the menu. Honestly a pop for 5 Benjamins does not feel any better than 2! Prices only become more favorable when 2 things occur; Increase in Supply Of Providers, and Lowering Demand of Available Providers. It is just simple economics!
My problem aren't deposits. I just don't deal with a lady that wants them. I know NCNS is a big problem. I live in an area of the country where we can have storms or icy roads. The ladies that want cancelation fees is growing. Although nobody paid me a fee yesterday when I got no showed. If a lady I am booked with has a cancelation fee I have been known to cancel three days ahead of time if the TV weather says there is a chance of freezing rain. I also drive up to 5 hours for most of my visits. I have only once canceled on a lady on the day of and I gave her almost 10 hours notice. She was very nice and said I hope you can schedule again. I did.
Deposits are a no-go. Only people that I've given deposits to are Pamela Peaks' agency and AIA which are pornstar agencies. I know AIA's owner and I consider them a friend. PP has a stellar reputation and I've never heard anything bad about her. I understand why pornstars ask for deposits because you're going to have a bunch of people back out at the last minute from nerves or just being trolls.
However, this poor guy tried to go through a pornstar directly and he just got burned $1K. He didn't get burned because he was contacting a fake account, but this was legitimately Casca Akashova. I've never had a pornstar ask for 50% deposit. Doesn't matter how good a provider's reputation is on TER or if they're in the public eye like Casca. Deposits are just a bad idea.
When I am on tour, I get a deposit for all first time meetings unless the client is a P411 member. I also get deposits for my San Diego (home base) meetings If someone doesn’t have two strong references or if they cancel appointments.
I used to have about a 20% cancellation rate on tour. On one especially bad NYC tour, I had a 50% cancellation rate. That was when I decided to ask for deposits.
Now when a client cancels appointments, instead of deciding not to see him anymore, I ask for a deposit instead. He can pay it or not, but I waste much less time now on cancellations.
I have never once kept a deposit I wasn’t entitled to. I don’t make exceptions and see people who refuse to pay a deposit in these situations.
If you’re interested you can read about My policies regarding rates, deposits, and cancellation fees on my website.
I just took a look at your site and "your" cancellation/deposit policy doesn't seem out of line, especially requiring a deposit from clients who have cancelled in the past, now if us guys could only get a deposit from providers that cancel on us, but I digress. lol
What seems to becoming more and more common, especially on the coasts where men seem to have lost their balls as well as their brains is where providers are DEMANDING deposits from ALL clients for ALL dates. Sorry, but that just isn't going to fly with many of us.
I will never send a deposit to many beautiful ladies out here who don’t ask for a deposit as far as providers who say travel and hotel cost that’s the cost of doing business if I get sick or some emergency come up I shouldn’t be out of a deposit life happens!
See, it's attitudes like yours that have caused many ladies, especially touring, to require a deposit.
I personally only require a deposit for extended dates, such as overnights, and FMTY, and, on rare occasions I might ask an individual that lacks provider references for a small deposit.
However, I have very clear cancellation policies that are not up for debate or discussion. Here is my take on the issue:
If you are cancelling on a lady without proper notice, you pay the CANCELLATION FEE. I don't care what the reason. We set that time aside for YOU. We decline other invites, & sometimes multiple (I personally will not accept more than one invitation a day) opportunities, that would be financially, more beneficial for us, but, we already agreed to spend our time with you. Most likely, we will not be able to scramble to find someone else to spend time with on such short notice. We may have already secured a nonrefundable hotel, or rearranged our schedule to see you, instead of attending a best friend's bday dinner, or quality time with loved ones.
Most ladies, (myself included) allow the Cancellation fee to be used as a deposit toward a future encounter, so unless you are a timewaster with no intentions of ever keeping your appointment, there should be no excuse to not compensate a lady for her time, even if your Great Aunt died for the 8th time this year..
Providers should be held accountable as well....I have never had to refund a deposit because I had to cancel. The few rare occasions I had to cancel an encounter, I offered a generous discount or additional time for free ...
I will never send a deposit to many beautiful ladies out here who don’t ask for a deposit as far as providers who say travel and hotel cost that’s the cost of doing business if I get sick or some emergency come up I shouldn’t be out of a deposit life happens!
That's just the problem ma'm, providers aren't held accountable. Usually by the time you've paid a deposit, you've been screened, which gives her more than sufficient leverage to take your money and have you say nothing about it.
So while you are probably running an honest business, with clear expectations and fair policies, enough of your contemporaries are thieving from your client base that you should be able to understand the anti-deposit sentiment. You planning on being honest does not mean your clients should trust you to be honest, they don't know your intentions any more than you know theirs.
Personally, FMTY or an extended date that takes up a significant amount of your normal availability is a perfectly reasonable situation where you'd ask for a deposit to cover your costs. That should be communicated clearly because you're effectively expensing it out to your client.
People who make reservations but never show up are the bane of the restaurant business. By way of response some high-end and/or highly popular establishments require a cc number with every reservation and charge a cancellation fee for no-shows. That's fine as a business strategy if the restaurant is truly in high demand and the local market supports it. But, if those factors aren't present, customers will tend to gravitate toward restaurants without a cc requirement. So, for those restaurants who think themselves worthy of a Michelin star but are actually more at the level of Hooters, the market will always have the last word.
I have come across some gals like this on twitter. I request $250 an hour. Unfortunately the gals that request $500+ an hour are also the gals that I see complaining that they don't have any business.
I live in a small town, I get that, but even when I tour I don't request much more then my normal rate. I have also never requested a deposit. Life happens.
This is the thing I always say ... if your goal is making money, price your merchandise to move! Somebody who puts a $1000 price tag then gets maybe a client a month, would make tons of money at $300 a crack if she'd put in the hours.
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I mean some of us have spent decades at under $50/hour and view something like $300/hour as heaven sent. And then they turn their noses up at it. It's insane.
"$300 a crack" was a Freudian slip. LOL
Although not intended as a pun, I was aware of it's potentiality. 
Make screening easy.
This probably goes without saying but no monger I know prefers to have a deposit. Consequently, no provider I have ever met with enjoys cancellations. The reason we have venerable services such as TER is so that we all have some level of trust. If she has no reviews and no identifiable footprint within the business, then NO. I'm out on the deposit. A reputable provider where I'm booking a slightly longer engagement ( dinner, etc), then no problem. Like everything in this hobby of ours its YMMV...