TER General Board

Ok kids, I have a question for the class.
GaGambler 6125 reads
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1 / 93

We all know that providers value regular customers and try to encourage repeat business. That said, how often do the ladies actually come out and ask the guy directly to "come back and see them again"?

 
Ladies, not counting the guys you really don't want to ever see again, but out of the guys that you would like to see again, how often do you come right out and ask him to book another appointment with you?

 
Guys, again assuming the first session was pleasurable (as best you could tell) for both parties, how often do the ladies you see come right out and ask you to book another appointment with them?

 
I will go first, I would say that "most" ladies I see, somewhere between 66% to maybe 75% of the women I see in this country come right out and ask me to rebook with them. When in Latin America I have found that number drops to less than half. I chalk that up to the fact that I am not "booking" appointments with the chicas in Latin America, but meeting them in bars that hookers frequent.  

 
Obviously this question was spawned by a boast by one of the boards more self aggrandizing posters who made what I think was a ridiculous claim that 600+ providers in a row came right out and asked him to book another appointment with them. Am I the only one who finds this boast not just unbelievable but downright ridiculous?

MatureGFE See my TER Reviews 157 reads
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2 / 93

I really don't have to come out and outright asked a gent to book with me again! I send out a nice email, DM, or text saying how much I enjoying seeing them and give a few examples of things I enjoyed about our time together. This of course is dome with gents I want to see again. I've never had anyone think I was being pushy with this kind of communication. It's more subtle IMO. I'm thanking them for choosing to book a date with me and I really think that's the way to go for me.  

Steph XO

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 136 reads
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3 / 93

You should leave off the last paragraph that reveals your own bias.  People are more apt to participate if they don't know you have an agenda of your own.  This is basic Poly Sci 101.  

mrfisher 115 Reviews 122 reads
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4 / 93
PhillFree 124 reads
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5 / 93

This depends on several things such as whether or not it is a popular touring lady or a local lady, whether or not I am seeing her in the US or outside of the US, and my actions.  If I mention to her that I enjoyed my time with her as I am leaving, she will almost always tell me the same and encourage me to schedule again.  And if I send her a thank you note, she will always respond.  I'm sure that most people encourage desired behaviors from ladies which probably makes it difficult to discern whether or not that behavior would have occurred absent that encouragement for reciprocation or provocation.  What doesn't happen as much as I would like to see is a simple, unprompted (not in response to a PM or email) thank you note.  Net, 100% (or close) of the time when I encourage it and maybe 50% of the time if I don't.  

Drumguy25 23 Reviews 112 reads
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6 / 93

That you fellas have acquired. I've had several ladies actually ask me to come back....but more often than not, it's more like " you are welcome to come see me again". Either is fine with me... due to my start with agencies, nothing was really that continuous, but the indies I see, and have seen regularly for about a year now, are always very good to me. I would say I've developed good friendships with them. I'm in the process of cultivating new friendships as well.

John_Laroche 115 reads
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7 / 93

Well, I am batting 1000 when it comes to the K-girls I've seen. At least I think they're asking me to book again. Sometimes hard to tell through the thick konglish accent.

 
When it comes to indies, I must admit the percentage is low. When it does happen, my spidey senses sometimes kick in because I didn't think the initial meeting went that well. Even if I filter down to the 20-30% that I would want to see again, only a very few make the first move. It's usually me saying something like "that was fun, I hope to see you again soon..."

 
On the other hand, for providers that I have repeated, advanced notice of a tour in my town or just a quick text when we haven't been together in several weeks is enough to warm my heart.

micktoz 43 Reviews 140 reads
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8 / 93

I'm not a very adventurous monger. I see about 14 ladies around the US and some of them I see multiple times a year. Most of them ask me when I will be back in town and say they would like to see me again.
Except Terri Lynn. She tells me that I will come back to see her. While I was in Australia, she insisted that on my return to the US, I should fly directly to Atlanta and make sure that she was my first orgasm back in the country. Who am I to argue with that?
Hehehe.  
When I do see new ladies, they already know that I'm a serial repeater and they are not shy about asking me to return.  

Have fun.

AlexandraMilw See my TER Reviews 139 reads
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9 / 93

Op:
Unless I truly didn't like him...
I always hug and kiss them and tell them to call again (at end of our time together)
I also send a thank you text fairly soon after he leaves.

As far as asking for another appointment??? I'm not the one making an appointment and I don't ask guys to make a future appointment. .... girls really do that? Smh

I make it known that they can contact me again.

impposter 49 Reviews 130 reads
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10 / 93

I am positive that I have had polite goodbyes that suggested a return visit but I always downgraded it to JUST a polite goodbye. I guess I have a hard time accepting that even the most emotional or romantic or sexy request for a return visit is 100% sincere (which I am perfectly OK with).  
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On the positive side, not one hostess has ever told me to leave and to never darken her door again.

sdottaylor 19 Reviews 145 reads
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11 / 93

1 lady has explicitly asked me to see her again, unprompted.

Had an appointment with her. 3 months later, she texted me out of the blue saying she was might be in the Baltimore/Washington area (She was based in Boston) Columbus Day weekend. Unfortunately, I was busy that weekend.

Couple weeks she texted me again asked if I wanted to set an appointment. I said I was busy, but I really wasn't.

Truth be told, I had an OK appointment with her the first time, and the economics of seeing her again ($100 travel fee + I'd probably have to get a hotel room + I'd probably have to chip in or pay for actual travel expenses + her hourly rate) did not make sense.

I did have another lady text me thanking me and offering a continued discounted rate (originally discounted because of a scheduling snafu) for the next time I come around, but it's been almost a year, it would be weird to bring up a discount offered a year ago.

scoed 8 Reviews 142 reads
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12 / 93

I bet it is close to 70 to 80 present of my paid dates ether directly ask about, or talk about "the next time".  It goes up if you count statements like "I hope to see you again". And I am not a looker, have a small member and outside of my wife never had much luck with the ladies outside of this world. Hell, even when it is obvious there isn't a connection and I haven't given them tons of "O"s like you read in some reviews they ask.  

It is simple. I am clean. I am respectful. And my cash spends and is all there. Because of this the ladies want to rebook knowing I am not going to give them issues. It is common business etiquette to let valued costumers know you want them back. It isn't anything to brag about.

Senator.Blutarsky 121 reads
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13 / 93

...a lot of implied requests and few blatant asks. However, they usually know by my demeanor if I'm interested in repeating or not. So, it's kind of a moot point.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 104 reads
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14 / 93

Where might a weary traveler find this particular swimming pool?

roseman1 225 Reviews 126 reads
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15 / 93

Posted By: scoed
Re: most of them.
It is simple. I am clean. I am respectful. And my cash spends and is all there. Because of this the ladies want to rebook knowing I am not going to give them issues. It is common business etiquette to let valued costumers know you want them back. It isn't anything to brag about.
Every business is desirous of enjoying long term customers which is why I agree with scoed.  Have a clean, no-nonsense transaction and they'll want to do business with you over and over again.  And while I can say that there is an explicit invitation before leaving a session in maybe 20-25% of cases, there are more "let's do it again" comments in well over 50% of the cases.  And post sessions, I've received occasional out of the blue texts from providers I've previously seen, usually with just a "Hi" or "What's up" comment - received these anywhere from two or threes months to over a year after we initially met.   I'm not offended by that marketing BTW.

KalyEscort 115 reads
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16 / 93

To say directly to the guy call me again is not very polite, and you put in an in an uncomfortable situation in front of the customer and you remain as a desperate one. You don't know the situation of the person, if he can or want to make an appointment again.  

The best way to get me to call you back is to provide a good service. Not only he will call you again, also he will recommend you.

GaGambler 159 reads
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17 / 93

Considering like Mick said there are only about 18 people still here, I would say the turnout is pretty good and so far no-one seems to be agreeing with you.  

 
Your claim is about as believable as a hooker with nothing but 10-10 reviews and the same logic applies, the more reviews a hooker has, the less likely she is going to get ALL 10-10 reviews. Likewise the more hookers a guy has seen the less likely that ALL of them have invited him back.

 
Most of the women you see are K-Girls and while most K-girls do indeed ask just about everybody to "come back and see me again", but if you have indeed seen 600 of them, given the transient nature of the K-Girl model and the huge number of 90 day wonders, the odds are you have seen several girls on the last day or two of their tour who had ZERO interest your repeat business as they already knew they weren't coming back EVER. The more K-Girls you have seen, the more likely you are to have been in this situation, the chances that you have seen 600+ women without this happening are astronomical. So why don't you just admit that you chose your words poorly instead of doubling and tripling down on stupid? It's pretty obvious that no one believes you. You have been around here long enough to know what happens when you speak in absolutes.

Myskyns 47 Reviews 132 reads
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18 / 93

1st - how do you post pictures that show up in the post and not a link?

2nd - Can you make a coffee table book with all the photos you have of these lovely ladies?

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 110 reads
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19 / 93

that have 10/10 reviews that did not come by them honestly?!!!   I'm shocked, shocked I say!!!!

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 130 reads
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20 / 93

sample, say 10,000 responses, I think you would find the results form a traditional bell curve, with a few people like me at the 90-100% mark on the right side of the bell, and guys like Followme, who, based on his own experience, doesn't believe ANYONE has ever been asked back by a provider, at the 0-10% mark on the left side.  Usually the biggest volume that forms the "bell" would be in the middle.  However, the results so far from this small sample show the center of the bell would probably sit to the right of center, in keeping with your numbers of 66-75%, which I think is reasonably accurate for someone who sees both Kgirls and chicas from bars.  But again, the sample is going to be too small to have any meaningful results, but this would be a good one to ask when there are 50-100,000 users online at any given time.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 112 reads
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21 / 93

invitations to return.  Sometimes, as they are straightening my tie and giving me a goodbye kiss, they will say something like, "When will I see you again." I count these as asking to see me again. Sometimes, as others said, it will be a followup communication shortly after the session, where the provider will say, "It was fun and would be great to do it again sometime soon." I take this as them inviting me back, too. It doesn't have to necessarily occur right as I am walking out the door, or even the same day, nor does it have to be in-your-face-explicit. Some will even wait a week and say, "I miss you. When are you coming back to see me." This also counts as an invitation. The providers with a little marketing savvy know how to do it in a subtle way to get an invitation across casually without seeming pushy, but its STILL an invitation nevertheless.  This is why I claim 100%, because I can't remember a single time when one of these were not used to invite me back.  Is it possible I've forgotten one or two from nine or ten years ago.  Of course it is, but I can't count what I don't remember.  Neither can anyone else here.  I, too, am not offended by this type of marketing, unless she is spamming my email or texting me daily.  

mrfisher 115 Reviews 106 reads
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22 / 93

URL into the photo box when you start a post.  

Thing 2:  I hope so.

BetterTomorrow 32 Reviews 109 reads
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23 / 93

Before that, do you know where I can find this lady?
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It's not a moot point if the lady does it with passionate kisses and sultry glances and softly asking "please come again" repeatedly while smiling up at you. That kind of thing stuck in my mind forever and I would have to repeat for sure. Always have a soft spot for the ladies who asked, implied or otherwise.
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Do you have any sexy kissing pic?

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 164 reads
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24 / 93

I would buy one, too.

BetterTomorrow 32 Reviews 126 reads
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25 / 93

What about "see you soon"?  
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I am trying to get my percentage up to respectable level around here. I will make note of what counts then take note of what the lady says when I leave. It's hard to remember when they don't do it with a lot of kissing and sensual glances and touchy feely hugs and pleasant smiling goodbyes. I can never remember if my ATF said goodbye because my head always in the cloud.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 135 reads
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26 / 93

create an awkward moment at a time when you want him to have nothing but good thoughts of you going out the door, but phrasing it in a way that lets him know you enjoyed his company and would be happy to have him return may be the tipping point to get him to repeat.  I think being silent runs the risk of the guy having doubts about asking you for another appointment.  Many men that see providers have not had a lot of success dating civvie women, so their egos are a bit fragile and their confidence lower than it should be, so some gentle encouragement that you had a good time with him may be what he's looking for to give him the confidence that if he asks for another appointment, you're not going to say, "Sorry, I don't think so."

KalyEscort 113 reads
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27 / 93

you don't need to be rude and ask directly for another date, as a woman you have many ways to seduce, even using whatsapp and "create" the temptation using the photo on "my status".  
If you're agressive you can get the opposite result and the guy will run away.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 116 reads
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28 / 93

Those are "soft" invites because they don't want to seem pushy, but they want you to know they would like to see you again.  I describe a number of other "soft" invite styles I have gotten below.  They are STILL invites, and that's why I don't remember a single incidence where I didn't at least get something like this to let me know she would like to see me again.  IMO, it would border on hooker malpractice not to at least tell a guy something like this so he knows for sure you would like him to return.  

quadseasonal 27 Reviews 110 reads
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29 / 93

You might not be turned on shaving when using a  mirror but that has nothing to do with how civilian women see  you.
   I never wonder how the short, bald, fat, middle class guy found a stunning woman who loves him.
 
He's polite, he's good natured, makes her laugh and smile a lot , tries to not be boringly repetitive and he does his best to keep her from crying.  

 
Guys that believe a Provider  asks him back because he's an awesome desirable dude, have no clue how disconnected  they are from Customer Service 101.
Posted By: scoed
Re: most of them.
I bet it is close to 70 to 80 present of my paid dates ether directly ask about, or talk about "the next time".  It goes up if you count statements like "I hope to see you again". And I am not a looker, have a small member and outside of my wife never had much luck with the ladies outside of this world. Hell, even when it is obvious there isn't a connection and I haven't given them tons of "O"s like you read in some reviews they ask.  
   
 It is simple. I am clean. I am respectful. And my cash spends and is all there. Because of this the ladies want to rebook knowing I am not going to give them issues. It is common business etiquette to let valued costumers know you want them back. It isn't anything to brag about.

followme 152 reads
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30 / 93

Looking for acceptance and not finding it.

I doubt anyone believes him, other than a few of his make believe friends or hobby brothers as I think he calls them.

 
He appears to be, in a subtle way, backing of his claim and is creating his own definition of “I have never seen a provider . . . . .that didn't ask me to come back and see them again”

Next thing you know he will be saying ….if she does not kick you out screaming don’t ever call again, ……. is the same as asking you to come back.

 
For all his self-serving bragging about his self-proclaimed 600+  I have not seen him say anything/brag about having any  white lists. As you may recall “backstabber” use to brag about having so many white lists that he had, and that in his opinion made him so relevant and creditable.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 114 reads
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31 / 93

The most aggressive I ever had was a provider that leaned against the door as I was leaving and said she wasn't going to let me leave until I told her when I would come back.  I said I had to check my schedule, but I would email her within two hours.  I sent her a one-word email . . . .  . "NEVER."    Lol

Senator.Blutarsky 121 reads
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32 / 93

I mean, I am a politician and we're known for gouging the public. 😎

Senator.Blutarsky 132 reads
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33 / 93

I obviously wasn't clear, if she tries what you described at the end of our time together and hasn't been that engaging earlier. It's really too late.  

What I meant, is if she's convinced me it wasn't a service, I'm usually the one asking when I can see her again.

mrfisher 115 Reviews 116 reads
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34 / 93
mrfisher 115 Reviews 130 reads
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35 / 93

Strip off your clothes and hop into the bed.    

Something tells me she would change her mind pretty soon about the "not going to let you leave" part.

Senator.Blutarsky 133 reads
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36 / 93

You know, those uptight, two faced bastards.  

What do you think of this pair?

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 115 reads
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37 / 93

a pair of aces in my book.  

KalyEscort 123 reads
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38 / 93

hahahahaahahahahahahaha LMFAO for sure she will think twice before repeat the joke hahahaha  

This is a game for adults, but a game at the end, so is funny to seduce and caught the eye. I have experience working on sales and this is FACT when you show desesperation the customer run fast. Is the opposite effect. And when the customer start to talk about a relationship and don't wanna leave the bed who run away it's me hahahahahahaha

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 138 reads
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39 / 93

at  turning lemons into lemonade than me. That sounds like a win-win strategy if ever there was one.   Lol

my-0.02-cents 132 reads
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40 / 93

I got treated like 2nd class client with my repeats and pretty much have decided against seeing a provider more than once in 6 months.

John_Laroche 121 reads
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41 / 93

not that I believe anything that anyone posts here about their RL/hobby life that can't be verified, but:

 
CDL has maintained roughly 26,000 times that "None of his providers knows him as CDL" therefore, none COULD Whitelist him even if they begged him to allow it.

 
Second, for the most part, CDL mongers in the K-girl AAMP world. These providers don't typically have their own TER accounts, so they can't Whitelist anyone.

 
Please, for everyone's sake, do your research and come up with something better if you want to fan a flame war.  

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 140 reads
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42 / 93

I was concerned that you had a constipation issue that so often takes guys your age out of action.   Its clear that you have been away from the boards awhile, and only 21 posts so far this year seems to support that idea.  When I'm away for even a few weeks as sometimes happens when I travel out of the country on business, before I start posting again, I scan the boards and leaf through the threads to find out what topics were discussed while I was gone, mainly so I don't make a fool of myself by saying something that's already been posted by someone else just a few days earlier.  Apparently, you chose to make a fool of yourself rather than look and see that your whitelist challenge has been made before, ad nauseum.  As LaRouche says, How can CDL stay anonymous with providers and still have a whitelist?  They are mutually exclusive.  Do I need to explain it to you step by step, or do you get it now?  You should have thought it through before opening your mouth and you would look less the fool right now.  

 
I am not redefining anything, an invitation to come back can take many forms, as I have demonstrated in my posts on this thread, but any type of invitation is still an invitation.  It can be soft, like, "Hope to see you soon" or more direct, like the provider that tried to block the door until I committed to come back, and everything in between.  When I made my claim I took ALL of these forms into consideration.  I can't remember a single session I have had where I was not invited back in some form.  There may have been a few  in the first year I was mongering, but I honestly don't remember ANY.  I just enumerated the various forms here in case others have a limited view of what constitutes an invitation to return.  I think the consensus so far is that indies are more subtle in their approach and Asiancy girls are more direct (I had four I a row a few weeks ago that ALL asked me to come back the next night).  I have several hobby friends that think nothing of seeing the same Asian girl three or four days in a row.  You CAN make yourself look a LITTLE BIT less stupid if you do your research before posting.  

 
The facts are what they are.  If you don't believe them, its no skin off my dick. I will also note that you have unquestionable expertise in grasping at straws.  Your whole post reads like you are trying to come back from the dead and re-live what you believe in your small mind are your glory days. The problem is, you're not nearly as sharp mentally as you were 15 years ago.  Do you have PM capability so if guys want to message you with suggestions for effective laxatives, you will be able to seem the PM's?  The constipation certainly explains your habitual grumpiness.  It can't possibly be comfortable being so full of shit.  Lol

-- Modified on 8/23/2018 5:13:02 PM

followme 150 reads
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43 / 93

Therefore is he telling the truth that no provider knows him as CDL?

 
If it is true that no provider knows him as CDL would you not think that some of those (200+) he have reviewed (under the CDL name) looked at their reviews and said …I never saw anyone named coeur-de-lion and complained to TER and after a few complaints of that nature I’m sure TER would have done something.  

So I would have to question that claim of his.

I and others, as evidenced by these few threads lately, do not believe much of what he says and call into question the rest.

mrfisher 115 Reviews 131 reads
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44 / 93
followme 111 reads
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45 / 93

you took the bait.

 
Your Pavlovian response proves you are real easy to train.

GaGambler 144 reads
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46 / 93

I see how you might "think" that 600+ providers ALL explicitly asked you to rebook considering your apparent inability to count something as simple as board posts.

 
FM has over TEN TIMES the number of posts you claim, and unlike your rather spurious claim about the 600+ hookers, this is something very easy to prove or rather disprove.

 
Anyone so consistently wrong about something so easily disproved with a single key stroke can hardly be trusted to remember that there were at least a "few" providers who for one reason or another did NOT explicitly invite you back.

Steve_Trevor 158 reads
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47 / 93

... in their requests as the example you gave, but they let me know in other ways they'd like to see me again.  It might be some words when I leave, like "That was fun, let's do it again soon" or a thank-you follow up afterwards.  Also I assume that when a provider gives me a P411 OK or white list (back when TER was functional) that she wouldn't mind seeing me again.  

Very occasionally a provider will reach out to me via email and tell me she misses me.  But the providers I see regularly have a steady clientele, so they don't need to beg for business even in today's climate.

MatureGFE See my TER Reviews 133 reads
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48 / 93

made in this lil world. Most do not have to be aggressive since we have regular friends here in the first place. So adding new friends is done  at our discretion ! ;-)

Steph XO

John_Laroche 163 reads
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49 / 93

As I previously mentioned, most of his reviews are AAMP Kgirls. They don't comprain too much about fake leviews, especially good ones.  

 
I'm pretty sure there are providers out there that know the real story behind the shtick, but no need for me to "out" that info here.

GaGambler 133 reads
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50 / 93

I can't believe anyone with room temperature IQ or above would believe that FM has only 21 posts for the year when it's so easy to simply click "see my posts" next to his handle to see every post he has made since his very first post in early 2004. Does that mean it's any less dishonest of CDL to claim FM only has 21 post this year in an attempt to discredit him as a "newbie" despite his 15 years of being here?

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 136 reads
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51 / 93

who just keep repeating themselves over and over.  I already said a week ago that I made a mistake and said I stand corrected.  This is last week's potato salad and is starting to go rancid.  Can't you accept that I owned my mistake and move on?  When was the last time YOU owned being wrong about something?  You never do, you just abandon the thread.  However, merely because I made a mistake doesn't make him any less of a grumpy old man that can't seem to move on either.  You're going to unintentionally lead people to believe you are like him and can't come up with anything new.  You're better than that.  

-- Modified on 8/24/2018 3:21:32 PM

GaGambler 135 reads
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52 / 93

If you continue to make false accusations I am going to keep calling you out on them. Your post is still right here for all to see, just in case you can't find it, I'll go ahead and link it right here. You clearly claim that FM only has 21 posts for the entire year and that plainly is not true, as my link on that post will prove beyond all doubt.  What is it with you and the truth lately? It's one thing to tell a lie that hard to dispute, it's quite another to tell one that can be proven wrong with one simply stroke of a key.

 
As for me being wrong, with around 50,000 posts made on these boards over a period of almost 15 years, many of them made while VERY drunk, of course I have made mistakes and when I've made them I have owned up to them without trying to do your imitation of a weasel. Continuing to lie about someone after being PROVEN wrong beyond all shadow of a doubt is not "owning your mistake"

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 144 reads
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53 / 93

you are unfamiliar with the Kgirl business model, and so you are trying to equate this to your experience with indies.  

LaRouche already told you on your last post that my 200+ reviews on TER were Kgirls.  Actually, there are a few Thai girls mixed in, which still use the Kgirl agency business model.  One of my reviews was an Asian indie.  All of the other indies were reviewed on the other site I was reviewing on, and NONE since 2013.  The Kgirls are not going to connect me to CDL for a couple of reasons:

 
1.   Only a handful ever read their reviews, most can speak a little English but its rare for one to be able to read it.  Even the ones like my current GF who has a drivers license took the test in Korean and has much difficulty  with written English.  Anyone that has taken a Kgirl to dinner knows you have to read the menu out loud to them.  They often say, "you pick" or "I'll have what you have" to try not draw attention to the fact they don't read English.  

 
2.  I stop short of giving enough detail about myself of what happened during the session in the reviews to allow a girl to look at a review and say, "I know that guy."  There is usually at least one thing that happened during the service that would be memorable for them that I don't put in the review for this very reason.  Anyone that has seen a girl I have reviewed knows that I saw her and the review is legit.  I often get PM's telling me that "she was just like you described her in your review."

 
Did you miss the part on my earlier posts that said I don't review indies anymore because its more likely one of them would figure out who CDL is in real life?  Then some of them won't see me.  If they don't know, I can get screened to see anyone I want because I have good refs.  If a girl figures out that I am CDL, then my future safety as a hobbyist is tied to her discretion, and that's just unacceptable for me.  I would quit being a monger before I would let that happen.  

 
Frankly, I don't give a shit who believes what I say and who doesn't.  I contribute where I think I can.  Its certainly your choice to not believe me, but your own low-volume hobby history, combined with your total lack of knowledge of the Kgirl scene, hardly puts you in a position to judge my veracity.  The guys here that  are Kgirl mongers know you don't know that you're talking about.  I don't know what year you stopped fucking women and just became a board jockey, but the market has chanced considerably in recent years, even before the loss of the TER reviews.  

-- Modified on 8/24/2018 3:10:29 PM

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 134 reads
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54 / 93

the of course a number that  pick at a certain point in time is going to become aged.  Now you're making shit up and grasping at straws.  When I wrote that, I counted the posts on THIS board, which is what we were talking about, and 21 was what it was for 2018.  I'm sure its a few more now because he has posted since them.    Got a link handy on a RECENT one you owned up to?  I don't recall any so far this year.  Of course, you're going to say its because you're NEVER wrong.  

-- Modified on 8/24/2018 3:25:45 PM

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 145 reads
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55 / 93

When you don't have anything substantive to come back with to support your bullshit.  Might work somewhere else, but the folks on this board are too bright not to see you posted this in desperation because you got nothing.  

GaGambler 130 reads
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But a message search with the keyword "oops" found this minor fuck up I made, and unlike you when I was called on my mistake I owned it, apologized and moved on with the conversation, without any attempt to weasel out of my fuck up or to parse words.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 126 reads
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on the Politics and Religion board.  The count of 21 was for this board.  What does the P & R board have to do with mongering?  If I am talking about THIS board, and you are talking about this board PLUS the P & R board, then of course we are going to come up with different numbers.  Its apples and oranges and doesn't mean I lied or made a mistake about what I was talking about, only about what YOU were talking about.  Since I'm not a mind-reader, until you clarified that you were talking about something DIFFERENT than I was, then it seems YOU were the one that was mistaken, not me, at that point in time.

GaGambler 134 reads
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Here are your exact words;

"I was concerned that you had a constipation issue that so often takes guys your age out of action.   Its clear that you have been away from the boards awhile, and only 21 posts so far this year seems to support that idea."

 

You clearly said "away from the BOARDS" not away from "this board", I can't help it if I read what you say instead of what you later claim to have meant.

 
It's like when you counted your own posts, rather than counting the 5,000 or so posts you made on THIS board, you chose to go with the highest number of any method of counting them and went with the number of over twice that many. Why do you pick FM's lowest possible way of counting posts while counting every single one of your own, including posts that aren't even here any more? It couldn't be that you were counting dishonestly, now could it?

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 107 reads
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taking only about the GD board where we were discussing providers, not politics.  I will be more clear in the future.  In the context of just the GD board, I was absolutely correct at the time.

Robertini 4 Reviews 104 reads
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60 / 93

and they do expect me to come back, which mostly I do. I've also been told to tell any friends of mine about them. But since I have no friends...

MatureGFE See my TER Reviews 147 reads
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61 / 93

calling FM a newbie was incorrect in the first place. And whatever the amount of posts FM has or hasn't made, in the year 2018 he's NOT a newbie and calking him one was just another example of being wrong!  

Steph XO

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 119 reads
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where I explained that extremely low-volume mongers never really get out of Newbie mode based on their personal experience.  I often get PM's from guys like him that have supposedly been mongering for years who are asking questions that a guy who sees one girl a week would know the answer to after one year.  I'm guessing FM sees about as many providers in a year as GaG and I see in a week.  Its difficult to learn anything about the business or to keep current on changes when you only see one or two providers a year, and who knows how long ago he saw his last one.  For me, when a guy shows a lack of knowledge and talks like a low-information Newbie, I will often refer to him as a Newbie.  Its meant more as in insult than a fact.  I think most people understand that concept, but since you want to keep beating the horse and bring it onto this thread, I thought I would just point out how much you are like him because you want to keep repeating yourself, too.  How old ARE you anyway?  Are you experiencing other types of cognitive impairment that comes with age?  Just curious.  

mrfisher 115 Reviews 111 reads
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MatureGFE See my TER Reviews 117 reads
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64 / 93
coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 112 reads
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It's like I told you on the other thread, tell your girl to stop attacking me.   I will always respond and I have no problem escalating to places she probably doesn't want to go.  You're the most reasonable guy here. If she won't listen to you, maybe she's not worth saving.

mrfisher 115 Reviews 98 reads
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66 / 93

Now, get in line or no soup for you!

mrfisher 115 Reviews 115 reads
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Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 105 reads
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68 / 93

While also creating memories. One fun way to keep the fire going is to have selfies, candids, or pro pics with something they have gifted me either on me, or in the background. (It kind of happens automatically, because it's almost impossible not to have something in the background.)

Generally, if I'm touring and I have seen someone in a prior tour, I notify them I will be visiting their town again, and am giving them first choice on date and time. I have a pretty small client list, so for me it's pretty easy. Some book, some can't, but try to catch me on the next tour.

Other than that, if they start contacting me to say hello, I reply "I can't wait to see you again!" Or I start summoning up the heavens, and spread spiritual reminders of my existence, and suddenly they - oop! - pop up in my email!

hahahaha

Really, I believe keeping a moving platform helps. Also, I have a VIP snapchat where people who have already repeated a few (5) times get to follow me. So it keeps the reminders, because they love watching my cat do crazy shit. It works, and it's a fun way not to pressure anybody by showing up in their inbox. "Where are youuuuu????"

The VIP rate structure, as well as the snapchat helps. (There isn't a huge difference...) and the VIP snapchat I think helps.

I might have lost some because of the snapchat as well, because I'll go on there in the morning with no makeup and ugly glasses and just talk about a bunch of boring stuff.

It's great!

Hope this helps.

(P.S. I've done the 'contact' method where someone might have said, "Please contact me when you're coming to my town." I've done it, and when they say they are not available, I immediately take them off my list of contacts. I'd rather they decide and not feel pressured. Gives me more confidence that I was chosen out of desire, rather than pressure.)

Xoxo,

Raven Courtney.

-- Modified on 8/26/2018 7:30:45 AM

followme 122 reads
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That is very interesting.  
You say, and I paraphrase, K-girls do not speak or read much English. I believe that to be true, not because you said it but because others have posted that in the past here and on other venues.

You and cdl are mutually exclusive, as you have repeated several times. (Despite the fact you whine, cry and have hissy fits about others repeating themselves.)

Again I paraphrase …you leave out of your reviews the “memorable” thing(s) that happened so the provider cannot connect you to cdl.

 
Excuses, Excuses, Excuses  those and many more.

 
You seem to have an excuse for every possibility and reason that would verify and give validity to your claims of grandeur and self-proclaimed importance, other than your word which has been proven false, untrue and to be lies  several times just in the past few days.  

 
Also you said “Frankly, I don't give a shit who believes what I say and who doesn't.”
Of course you give a shit, otherwise you would not go out of you way to tell us how wonderful you think you are. Otherwise you would not brag and brag how many post you have how many reviews you have posted. Otherwise you would not go out of your way to try to have more of this or that than others.  

Yeah, boy, you give a shit and are so desperately looking for relevance and acceptance and cannot fine it because it is not there….and forget about respect.    Even mrfisher ( one of the most respected and level heads people here) has excoriated you for your unwarranted and uncalled for attacks.  

 
Therefore with all your self-praising braggadocious bloviating  
You lay out a very clear and convincing case against yourself persuading us to think that you are a fraud and causing us to question if you have ever been with a provider or even got laid ever.

BetterTomorrow 32 Reviews 120 reads
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And attempted a straw man argument to get what I wanted. That pic turned me into a clown.
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I said essentially same thing when I posted an answer before GaG even started polling. I knew you meant it's a moot point [for you] [because] the ladies did not have to ask since you would want to come back already. I couldn't disagree with you.
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So I said it's not a moot point [for me] [if] the ladies asked [implicitly or without pressuring me] because I would feel more appreciated. The ladies who replied here got it.  
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It's the difference between a mass thank you card versus a handwritten note. There was a reason when I said I have a soft spot for these ladies and would want to repeat with them even more and sooner. They knew how to make a man feel appreciated.

souls_harbor 160 reads
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Going by memory I'd say the vast majority suggest future encounters in some manner. As others have said, why wouldn't they. I'm clean, on time, respectful, easy going, leave on time, and don't haggle. In that regard I am an ideal client. The only better client would be one who just mails the money without a visit.

mrfisher 115 Reviews 132 reads
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Switter from women saying just that . . . . . that We're all worthless pieces of shit and should just send them our money.  Wading through posts like this, along with the golden and brown shower crowd, is what caused me to give up looking on that site.  

GaGambler 134 reads
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I guess you don't know fish quite as well as you think you do. ROFLMFAO

 
I happen to agree with you about Switter, but you might be careful about who you are talking to when denigrating the "golden and brown shower crowd" LMAO. Any actual friend of fish could have given you fair warning if you had asked.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 132 reads
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anyone who is into that.  The fact that there is even a "crowd" there for me to refer to shows there is a market for that.  The only point I am making with my comment is that it is SO not for me, so its a waste of time to have to filter through it.  I'm completely confident that I'm NEVER going to run across an ad that makes me say, "She is so hot, I wonder if she will pee in my mouth or shit on my chest?"  And  I'm guessing its probably not for you either.  lol

 
As an aside,  I was sarcastically joking with a Kgirl one time that if she only wanted me to see her, she should do what a dog does and pee in a circle around me to keep the other girls away.  We got in the shower, she put my dick between her thighs, held it tightly, and peed on it.  Not sure what the protocol was, so I took two steps backward and peed on her stomach.  She nearly died laughing.  it caused no feelings of arousal at all for me, but it meant I didn't have to pee when I got out of the shower, so it was a utilitarian move that saved a few minutes at the end of the session, that's all.  

PhillFree 116 reads
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Those are called deposits.

Robertini 4 Reviews 131 reads
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MatureGFE See my TER Reviews 121 reads
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-- Modified on 8/26/2018 10:36:15 AM

MatureGFE See my TER Reviews 129 reads
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for a long time, about 9 years, maybe 8, is that isn't even close to a deal breaker (thank goodness). He loves GFE and FSBM w/super happy endings and gives a great massage himself. *IMO*, those are his two favorite activities. Pretty sure he's never done brown showers so let's not group him in with that. He's pretty much a neat freak, lol.

He's a polite freak as I've told him before. ;-)  He also has heard me say many times he's one of my favorite people on the planet even if (when) his jokes fall flat!

Steph XO

GaGambler 148 reads
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Let's just agree that fish is a freak, but he's our freak and if someone doesn't like it they are likely to get "punched in the throat" by a certain fucking fucker. lol

 
Not that anyone here doesn't like it of course.

MatureGFE See my TER Reviews 108 reads
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82 / 93

I called him a polite freak and yes he's a neat freak too.  But yep his our freak and I do wish a certain someone we both know would show up. Actually I wish he had shown back up about 3-4 days ago but better late than never. ;-)

Steph XO

mrfisher 115 Reviews 124 reads
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coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 110 reads
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They seem  to be saying you are the consummate polite gentleman, and a "neat freak" who will occasionally go for being peed  and shit on (although there might not be a consensus on this last one) by a provider, as long as its done "neatly", of course, and that you are likely to say, "Thank you" afterward, because you're just so damn polite.  

MatureGFE See my TER Reviews 123 reads
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85 / 93

I'm not sure where you got the shit on part. You've addresses this before with him and you included both like they are mutually exclusive.  Or is that shat on, I dunno?  And neatly is an oxymoron in that case anyway..  :-)

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 121 reads
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its pretty obvious where I got it.  The link is below.  I mentioned golden and brown showers and it was then pointed out from a member who knows him better than I do that Fisher is a "freak" and I should not say anything denigrating about ether of these activities with regards to him.  If I was played, then I have been mislead into believing something that is not true, which is not my fault.  After what GaG said, are YOU sure of how well YOU know Fisher?  Lol

MatureGFE See my TER Reviews 148 reads
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I know what post you meant, it's easy to see. And I know Fish pretty damn well so even thou you love to try and put doubts in your postings A LOT, I'm sure I know Fish well, but thanks for checking. Now as much as you love to keep things going to the right side of the page *it seems*, I don't find the need to debate with you whether Fish rolls around in shit or not. Now there *may* have been a review at one time of GaG's MOST favorite ladies on TER (I'm being very sarcastic btw), that may have had something in it of a pee pee nature but nothing shitty, lol.  It was *probably* before your time here, umkay. And no I don't remember exactly what year it was so no debate there either. She's delisted and has been for years so I can't name her.  

Now I'll be spending two nights in a row being wined and dined by Fish very soon, so now I'm going to do some yoga and meditate and try to forget about all of this convo right about now!

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 138 reads
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How much fucking help do you need.  It was four to one there for awhile.  Can you even dress yourself in the morning without help?  Lol

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 122 reads
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why did you call me out?   Are you just being an asshole-ette?  

 
No need to brag that you can still pull in some bucks from somebody here.  If you couldn't you wouldn't be here.  Kudos for keeping Fish interested despite what you say here on the board.  (I'm being sincere now.)  Yoga is great, but you should not neglect those abs any longer.

MatureGFE See my TER Reviews 127 reads
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as to what constitutes being "called out" these days. And since (THANK GAWD) you don't really know with my abs look like you are once again WRONG that I neglect them.  Once again while I kept it light on my response back to you on the "shitty subject" you chose to make it a personal jab on what I may look like. Not surprising thou. Now MAYBE you can move on to a "less shitty" subject matter now, lol! ;-)

Myskyns 47 Reviews 123 reads
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