I'm just curious, how do some providers come up with how many roses you should give them. Because from some of the reviews that i've seen, i wonder.
and part market economy.
If you want to engage in a conversation of value... that is a personal choice and you have the power to exercize that choice everytime you spend your money.
If you are just being a cranky bastard... well I'm sure someone will engage you in a cranky contest. Just not me.
Are you referring to providers who get bad to mediocre reviews and continue to charge what you consider to be premium rates?
They obviously charge whatever the market will bear. Do the math. Someone who charges $400/hr. just needs one client per day for 7 days to clear $2100. Pretty good for 1 hour's work per day.
To do this, I imagine certain criteria must be met. First, she must work in a large city with a sizable population. Second, she must be relatively young, around 21-25 and third, she must fit a supermodel criteria of beauty. With those conditions met, she can make a ton of money in a short amount of time, because there will always be those guys who will overlook service for the sake of youth and beauty.
If the providers you have in mind don't fit the criteria I've mentioned, I'd be curious as to how they can sustain a high donation rate with bad/mediocre reviews.
Please provide an example.
that the gross is not the net in this or any other business. Just because a lady grosses $2,100 in a week doesn't mean she takes that home. She has rent, advertising, supplies, etc., not to mention "depreciation" and "depletion."
My math was off, I should have said $2800/wk gross, but it's still more than many people make already. At the 1 hour rate, even if her take home is 50%, $1400/wk. is pretty good. At 5 days, it's $2000 gross and $1000 net.
I was just using $400/hr. as a minimum benchmark. The assumption should be that she actually makes more than that by charging more and working more than 1 hour a day.
Remember, I was just trying to hypothetically account for how a provider can sustain a high rate of income with a low rate of customer satisfaction. I assumed a set of rare and desirable qualities to offset the negative ones, combined with a large enough customer base.
How many guys here wouldn't pay $800/hr. to be with someone who looked like Scarlett Johansson, even if her performance reviews were in the 3s and 4s? Most might say no, but in NYC where 55% of the male population [which was 3.8 million at last census] is between 25 and 74, she wouldn't need that many takers.
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You do NOT have to be young, super hot, or even educated in some cases to charge outlandish rates. THe HDH section on certain boards will verify that.
It is all a matter of choice and math like one poster says. I know girls charging $1000 for two hours but they only get maybe 2 a week which is what they want.
Some girls want volume and some want a few a month. Most often the ones who charge more already have full time jobs to support them and they do this for the added bonus. Meeting tons of rich guys and going to exotic places while getting paid is not a bad way to "relax."
Bottom line is each person is different in deciding what they consider quality and how much that quality is worth. There are tons of girls who don't even score a 5 in my book but are making thousands with men who view them as 10's.
This is a business of variety and that will always be the case. We all want different things when it comes to women so no one person can decide for anyone else.
Even if my assumptions about looks are wrong, you confirmed my point about volume. When a provider charges high rates, she doesn't need as many clients.
But the question is: what are the conditions in which this can be sustainable?
Do you live in a big city? Would these girls you mention be able to do the same in a smaller town?
Now you've added in the factor of a pre-existing civvie job which I haven't considered. This might also account for how a provider can charge premium rates for sub-premium service - they already have an income to live on. But I'm not convinced that this is the majority of providers who charge $500+.
You said: "There are tons of girls who don't even score a 5 in my book but are making thousands with men who view them as 10's." I agree, but that's why I specified a certain physical type. I was making a distinction between women I find attractive and the kind of women most men do. I personally prefer the "girl next door" types. Call me strange, I'd take Ashley Judd over Angelina Jolie any day, but most men would disagree. I was trying to generalize about preferences from the various comments I've seen on this board as well as reviews I've read.
Of course all individuals have their choices but there is often a general pattern and I was just curious about it. If such patterns didn't exist, the PR industry wouldn't function.
No one is demanding that a provider change her rates or that hobbyists should see only a certain type of provider, but what's wrong with trying to figure out why providers charge what they do? Or why hobbyists pay what they do?
There's a difference between finding out what people do and telling them what they should do.
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Scarlett Johansen, and 8,000 an hour would get my money.
Heh..
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Yes she does take that home. The expenses afterwards are what everyone pays (rent etc.), I don't take home what I make because of taxes. I am sure every smart provider sets some aside to pay some taxes every year, but don't confuse gross income and net income here. Each provider has to decide for themselves what is set aside, whereas for me the government decides. So if a provider makes $2100/week then that is exactly what she "takes home", then she decides what to do with it.
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Excellent point, net income is one of the most important parts of a business.
Kind of like ebay, after advertising fees, shipping fees, paypal fees, there's not a whole lot of profit you take in. Unless you are a high volume seller or are selling a popular item.
Very well said Dickus !! Thank you for pointing out the un forseen and then the obvious 
Guy's if you only knew the overhead you would really be shocked !
Oh yeah and for sure the "depreciation" 
Layla
you don't seem to have "depreciated" at all.
How does a provider with low performance reviews continue to charge high rates? How is she able to stay in business?
I put out this hypothetical scenario in a post above post: "How many guys here wouldn't pay $800/hr. to be with someone who looked like Scarlett Johansson, even if her performance reviews were in the 3s and 4s? Most might say no, but in NYC where 55% of the male population [which was 3.8 million at last census] is between 25 and 74, she wouldn't need that many takers."
Assuming 1 client per day for 5 days, that's $4000 gross. So how much does "Scarlett" keep after overhead?
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This provider decided her rates based on average rates in my geographical location an on what I feel I am worth.
Am I Scarlett Johansson? No. But I am attractive,skilled and successful at making my friends happy.
Why any provider would not live up to their asking price is beyond me. Sooner or later you'd have to own up to it. It's just bad business.
but it all comes down to whatever they want to charge. They reach the point where they are making a certain level of income for a minimum level of work.
The younger, prettier, "pleasing" she is, the more she can charge and still "net" the amount she wants to earn.
Some ladies rent nice hotels, and some rent hotels by the hour. Some even hobby out of their home. That factors into the "overall" experience, and how much the guy is willing to pay.
Some are great at getting you off quickly, and some focus on giving a great overall experience.
Then, some ladies have an inflated idea of what they are worth (compared to other ladies in that market). It works for a while (guys will pay anything to see a new lady). When the novelty wears off, she either quits or drops her prices.
Don't try to compares prices between cities. Some areas are just more expensive.
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