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holystonethedeck 105 Reviews 9 reads
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There are no strict or generally accepted definitions of either. Everyone has their own opinions on what these terms mean.

From hearing so many different opinions I am curious to know more about the difference between GFE and PSE. I’ve been told that I do both for years but o thought it’s just called good service (I don’t put a name on many things) I am interested to know more if anyone can elaborate:)

I would generally charachterize GFE as more of a friendlier, welcoming and passionate encounter whereas, PSE is more vocal, louder, and based more on the physicality rather than the passion. So its def about attitude, imo, but personally I think certain sex acts separate the two as well.  
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GFE is a bit more romantic, with deep, passionate, lengthy kissing, hugging/snuggling, with the intercourse more of a slower "love making" style, for lack of a better term.  
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PSE is more often associated with harder core, more physical, typically out of the ordinary sexual positions, which usually includes dirty talking, CIM/swallow, anal, etc. Of course some of these things will cross over, as again, they are very vague terms.  
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Generally speaking, I would view GFE as more like a real date with great convo, laughs etc while PSE is more centered solely on the more intense sexual/physical aspects.

There are no strict or generally accepted definitions of either. Everyone has their own opinions on what these terms mean.

hehitshewins8 reads

GFE tends to be more clear. The variance and expectations don’t seem to differ quite as much. DFK, BBBJ, and covered full service are almost always in this package. FIV and DATO maybe but are more YMMV. Small talk and cuddling are also usually on the table. I think for many men, GFE was the evolution from the days that not kissing at all, or at least not with tongue, seemed to be more common. It took having sex without connecting to a more intimate place where it felt like you were paying to make love to a girlfriend, and not just having hooker sex.

 
PSE has more variance and lacks clarity. For some, it means mixing in BDSM, and nothing more. It might mean faster paced and harder fucking. It might involve skull fucking. In some cases, it means Greek is included. And, there are cases where it means BBFS. I find PSE to be more frustrating because it varies too much. When providers say they offer PSE but refuse to reveal their menu, I’m typically not interested in paying for that service because I have no idea what to expect.

If I had to break it down to one specific sexual act I would narrow it down to anal.

As a bonus I would add CIM & if she swallows she's a winner. 😋  

YMMV is the golden rule.  

You have 175 reviews over 14 years and are rated as 15th in your market. You clearly know what you're doing... and are good at it.  
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Would you like help rebranding, or updating/word-smithing your offerings?  
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FWIW I also am not a fan of label/rule/upcharge specific offerings and consider discovering what a new friend enjoys part and parcel of the FUN this demimonde offers (winking at you, RR😘).

Love the question! Although, I  don't think you're going to get a consensus and that kind of proves the point.

 
When I came into the industry, GFE was sweet, sensual, intimate and no upselling. It should include LFK, DFK, oral receiving and giving (covered or uncovered depended on who you asked), and CFS for sure. Whereas, PSE meant higher energy, more primal BBBJ, CFS, Covered Greek, CIM, COF, swallowing, rimming, etc... things you'd actually see in porn. It could still include some of the sensual aspects of GFE during "downtime"/recovery time. However, it just meant more was on the table. That was the distinction and it felt pretty clean. Oh, and there might be submissive services included (or as an add on) but usually BDSM was always its own separate thing. Then somewhere along the way things shifted and now you have just as many people assuming PSE means what it used to mean as much as it means BBFS, which... is a whole separate conversation.  

 
That being said, I think it's really important for each of us to do what we find is best for our business. For me, I have done the risk assessment and found a way to dictate what I'm comfortable with on my ads and website without dropping explicit menus. And then I let prospective clients know that I'm happy to discuss specifics after screening. It's worked well for me and clients haven't felt lied to and/or surprised when I stipulate "x, y, and z" aren't allowed.  

 
If I may, just a gentle reminder about asking for "menus".  We are in the US where this is criminalized. Asking for a menu of services before you have proven that you're not affiliated with LE is a huge red flag for most independent providers. We are not operating out of parts of Australia or Europe. What I find endlessly amusing is that many forum users will say they want this to feel like a real connection and not a transaction but are the first ones to say "but I need to know exactly what I'm getting." The irony is not lost.  

 
Don't get me wrong. From a business POV/consumer POV, I get it. And at the same time, this industry has specific nuance so at times, when clients ask for a menu before any rapport has been built I often have to laugh and shake my head.

-- Modified on 6/12/2026 10:45:29 AM

hehitshewins1 reads

Posted By: paigesavage
 
   
What I find endlessly amusing is that many forum users will say they want this to feel like a real connection and not a transaction but are the first ones to say "but I need to know exactly what I'm getting." The irony is not lost.  
 
While this is the desire for many men, if we're talking from contact to the end of the appointment, it's really near impossible. The closest I came to this was when I picked up a lady who was freestyling at a bar. I did not know she was an escort. After we had sex, she asked me if I was generous. On one side, she had me feeling this was a real connection. On the other side, I was like, wtf you're popping this on me now? So she accomplished the closest to a real connection by tricking me. That last question was the needle in a balloon moment. Everything I thought had happened, fizzled away like a poked balloon flying and deflating in the air.

 
If we are being fair and honest, a provider is not establishing that she's a provider after sex. This is established in the beginning. And, from that moment, there has to be some element of transaction. And, this is for both of us. Many ads and websites are transactional in nature. Booking forms or booking details by email/text are transactional. Screening is transactional. Sending a deposit is transactional. Going to the bank to get cash, put it in an envelope, and leave it discreetly where told is transactional. Reading reviews is transactional. Bottom line, elements of transactional are unavoidable. And, as a client, I do find it important to have an idea of what to expect. That's why I'm a TER guy though. I don't ever ask for a menu. I just read the reviews. If she doesn't have them, she is not for me. Too much risk that I will be disappointed.

 
This does not mean a real connection cannot be established. This is where the art comes in. Once business has been handled, flipping that switch is what sets certain providers apart. And from reading your reviews, there are not many better at it than you, so I am sure I am saying nothing you do not know. If any client or provider expects there will not be any elements of transactional, that's just unrealistic.

RespectfulRobert3 reads

Many US based women do not want specific sex acts mentioned even after screening and prior to meeting, especially for the first time. They just dont want anything graphic/illegal, and thus potentially incriminating, in writing at all. I am not saying they are the majority, but they absolutely exist in large numbers.

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