Big city guy here (not NYC).  It always seems like there are two things going on.  Young hotties working for an agency (typically $400 / 1 hour with lady getting 50%) or established TER / P411 ladies (at $500 to $600 / 1 hour if not more).  Certainly the value of reviews and an established track record are undeniable.  And we all know the "being an independent costs more" conversation (hotel room, etc.).  [Spare us all that conversation again.]  But there has to be some middle ground.

To answer your question. First calm down it's only pussy, get what you can get, or spend what you can spend.  

According to my book of world rules, you can't say trickin and wear granny panties at the same time.

That's just too stupid for words.

I have seen your words for years, and there is no limit as to how stupid your words can be.

So, either figure out a way to make more money or lower your expectations and stop whining.

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Millennial girls that wear grannie panties are the fat chicks.

Just like any other business, it's an issue of supply & demand and the socioeconomic details of the area.  

And keep her from spouting her mouth off,  Butt seriously she is a size 0/2, so the fabric wouldn't keep her quiet.  

Did it start when you mixed up laundry with your roommate?

Now you are just telling us you are a cross dresser.

From the providers perspective there is a Sweet spot, a price point where you get just enough of the right type of clients.
Too low and you will get too many calls, mostly from undesirable lowlifes.  Too high and the phone won't ring.  Where that price point is depends on the market the provider is in along with her looks and reputation.

I am reasonable and have a great business with very good reviews with a lot of regulars.  I prefer having consistently good business versus only a few clients a week. Since I enjoy sex, I'd hate to sit around waiting for it. I write a blog on my website that helps market my business lowering my advertising costs. Eventually would prefer only regulars and no new business, it's much safer that way.

He is stupid enough for virtually any idiocy.

Hmm, sounds like a bit of dementia. Maybe they were your granny panties all along and you're really a "mature" Smartie.

Find another hobby.  It's a luxury not a necessity.  So tired of hearing guys bitch about rates on here.  If you go to Tiffany's, you're gonna pay top dollar.  If you want cheap, go to Target or Walmart.   It should be up to the girl to do whatever she wants and for how much.  It's called consent.  Don't like it?  Do something legit.  If I go to score dope from someone I don't know, there is a good chance I will be ripped off.  If I don't want to wait for my regular to come around, that's the risk I take.  That's the chance you take.  Get over it.  If I'm having that much trouble getting stoned that it is ruining my quality of life, I go to rehab.  It's a simple situation, really.  Don't complicate it.

Well it takes time and effort to please you. When I have a date, I get my hair and nails done, make sure I am well groomed blah, blah blah... that alone isn't cheap. Then lingerie, clothing etc not saying I buy a new outfit everytime but that's effort right there to look perfect for you... And I'll spare you the "being independent cost more" talk even though I'm dying to lol!

Not only that, I feel like rates are actually lower than usual.

What the fuck did plants do to you the you feel you must insult them so. I have never seen the utter stupidity out of any plant that I have seen constantly out of that waste of space.  You better fucking apologize right now. Plants deserve better. After all they clean our water, give us oxygen, beautify the word, and many are good to eat.

come and visit us in Charlotte, NC

In part I am paying for a "non flabby ass" and in Texas at least you can get a very nice experience for $300.  

NYC?  Yeah, that'd be tough.  Same goes for a few other areas but honestly?  
My touring rates ($300-350) are considered high in some places I visit.    
Seriously, I got slapped with the GPS label in Indiana!! LMAO!   Too funny.

In Dallas you would be a bit on the high side at $400, in Vegas you could probably bump your rates a bit and do just fine. It's funny about Texas, I can think of several girls who started here at $300 hr or even less who have left for places like LV or NYC and who now command twice as much.

This is strictly my opinion, from my point of reference as a long time escort client. I apologize for the inelegant way of expressing this, but a fab f*ck is a fab f*ck. It doesn't matter if she's 2 grand, or 2 hundred. My experiences have lead to search for three things in this not so secret world. I'm looking for nuance, comfortable sexual expression, and everything that entails fabulous. Those can be found at any price point.  

I share in your outrage. Jake should be ashamed.  Lol

What is sensible for you or I is different from some other dude, but there are many in the 250-500 range who are awesome at what they do and who look amazing!!!

If a plumber is charging $40 an hour and can't keep up with demand, he'll raise his rates to $60 an hour and get the amount of work his time and skills will allow for. At $350 an hour I felt fairly compensated BUT I only have so many hours in the day and so much pounding my parts can take and chatting I can cope with - I was spending 2/3 hours a day on emails/calls and screening, so I raised rates to $500 an hour and now I spend an hour a day on admin, can see 80% of gents who enquire and my day isn't crammed and stressed and my bits and brain take less pounding. Supply and demand........
I'd still be happy making $350 an hour but I don't really have to so why would I??

Variety and Donations are The Spice Of Life..

Gambler, however it terms of location you probably live in the best state to hobby in terms of donations because there is so much competition in Texas that you will probably get your price.   I am sure that you can think about the limit that you are going to spend within reason and usually find someone that will be at your price point.  With the locals there are more escorts than hobbyist so it is really a buyers market.

Dear Ms. Cavnendish,
You also learned that you have the nearly the same demand and you have enough clients given the current state of the economy that you will be able to meet your current responsibilities.  Also I have a feeling that you have more multiple hour clients and that is where you will really be able to generate revenue.  I dare say as well you can do that because you have a sugar daddy or two that you can schedule when you don't want to have the responsibility of verification and that is also a great financial bonanza for you as well.  Also you have a strong customer base already at that number and at other numbers at your discretion as well.  That is why although you will take new customers it is the old customers who are loyal that definitely see you through.

The Potted Plant Society of North America with a note of outrage.

Are two different things.  It you have to wipe cobwebs off your pussy between appointments then you're not getting enough business.  Rates may sometimes be the problem.  A provider must decide if she would prefer 5 customers a week at $500 or 10 at $400. As the price point comes down, the revenue stream goes up. Simple economics.

I don't see the math on this.  Let's assume $350 for the first hour and usually some discount for the second hour, maybe $200.   So two hours is $550.   But two gents for one hour each totals $700.   Bumping someone to go to two hours with the other is like throwing away $150.

seeing one guy for two hours is usually much safer and MUCH less energy and less stressful than seeing two guys for one hour each.

I am a provider myself and altho im not verified on her yet; I always figured ourr rates were based off what we decided to set on selling our soul. Lol. In my years of doing this , i find it more suitable to be reasonably priced than over priced. Not because I am a BBW (I get high250 dates at times) but the percentage rate for one man to keep spending big amount will not make him want to come back; esspecially when they spend big amount and the woman done nothing"spectacular" for the donation. Everyone has a life, kids, bills etc. So i like to catch me a regular here and there. & I offer discounts and lower rates in order to do so. ..I'm not knocking no woman's hustle/business/entrepreneurial skills; so to each's own.  Just read post and thought I'd chime in... Have good day!

Dear delightful duplicitous gent,
'Tis true that any of my dates are multi hour due to my sparkling wit and scintillating conversation skills, second only as they are to my astounding oral qualities )
Alas though sugar daddy's are not part of my life boo boo!!!

I have seen a LOT of broke hookers who charge $4-5-600 hour or more, but I have NEVER met a broke K-Girl.

And there it is. A sensible explanation as to why Claire's rates are sensible....

Keep on being fabulous Honey!!

You sound like a nagging wife who complains about everything she sees that doesn't even matter, nor does it concern her. That or a man who has never grown up, and can't have every single woman he's ever dreamed of having whenever.

smart people can figure it out if they take a minute (and thumb through all of the profiles of the big cities for a flabby ass lol)

And usually spot on and an enjoyable read.
If only you spoke your mind ... lol

It's like Christmas when you have a drawer full of granny panties.

or the other guy

Over these past two years, as I've raised my rates, my inquiries have gone up with each raise. Very, very interesting to see... however... it is nice to sometimes have three full weeks off, and I have plenty of toys to keep me semi-ok. Get waxed, and jump back in, make a bunch, more time off.

The last thing I want to do is to fuck a woman who thinks by "renting her body" she has "sold her soul" I only want "willing" and hopefully "eager" participants in this business. It would totally ruin it for me to find out the woman I just had sex with compared the experience to selling her very soul.

I thought that selling your soul was a one-time deal. I've been holding out for a good offer.

I suppose the same goes for souls, maybe your soul simply isn't worth even the couple of hundred bucks that honey got for hers?

I get so tired of providers using that arguement.

lol - hi! lol

Oh Well, you don't have to like it.

for really quality feminine grooming.

Perfect. Standing O

Well hello gentlemen, luscious Divine here, I offer an exhilarating experience. Nice incall location and I have been told my techniques are world class. Save your money and come see me and that's a big Texas guarantee you won't be disappointed

Now hear is a provider openly boasting about her overpriced rates. Considering when one
look's at the top 100 in Chicago. You were rated in the mid 20's that does not by any means
equal a $1500 per 2 hour lady. OVERPRICED if I ever seen it do you seriously think you are worth
more then some of the ladies in the top ten in your city by charging  600 more per 2 hours ?

Most of the smarter mongers don't put any stock into the "top lists" but here you are equating rates with her standing on her regional "top list" and then you wonder why so many hookers manipulate their scores.

I was going to reply but honestly, it would simply have been a variation of what you wrote GaG so +1 and all that shizzle....👍

Nevermind, I'm going to make this one a blog instead.

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I know you are just WKing for common sense. I agree, if you're going by scores alone, you're fooling yourself. I think scores do have some merit though... but not on how much one should charge.

And not the other rates that hint hint go right in with the Chicago market.

Within the past month, I have had 2 x 3-4 hour dates with 2 amazing ladies: 1 lady was in both Penthouse and Playboy (she called herself a "low-end" Playboy model because she wasn't on a cover or a special edition, etc.).  The other lady was also in Playboy.  She considered herself to be a "high-end" Playboy model.  A few random thoughts (as a result of those experiences and reading this thread):

As you said, those two probably want to exceed expectation throughout their entire lives, not just here. I feel ya.

....that complain about womens rates and there will always be women that complain about men that they see. Women should set their rates at what makes them comfortable (mentally and financially)  - the same with the length of time (if you don't like 1hour appointments don't offer them). The problem with rate setting is that many women are trying to be all things to all people and the struggle then becomes very real. If your marketing is all over the place your clients will be too. Create a strategy and adjust slowly based in clientele 'fit' and demand. The beauty of this World is that there is someone for everyone so women shouldn't worry so much about casting the net too small as it were...

Exactly and well said Cam. I check my checking account balance then look for what I like, stay in my commutable region and then target those providers. So far, so good as I tend to repeat often and it`s the connection that I`m most looking for. Now if I could just get the "connection" on the same page with the "Get off, get out" attitude I might be really be onto something.

I believe there is a way on TER that you can search for a provider by her rates?