Why not worship women instead of downplaying them?
Admirer
...in your case - Frances.
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"Companion" as defined by trusty Google AI:
Being a companion means providing company and support, whether through a platonic or romantic relationship, or as a paid professional.
And "Patron", same source:
A customer or client: A person who buys goods or uses the services of a specific business, store, restaurant, or library, especially on a regular basis.
..."Patron of the Arts."
"Customer" and "client" sound too transactional. "Companion sounds a little too close to "partner" or "boyfriend."
I actually like patron!!
"I am a patron of ladies of the night!"
Working in law and finance, I serve clients. It’s a paid service; but they are multi-year, sometimes multi decade relationships…. And the client is very highly respected (associates who lose clients get canned)…. So I’ve got no problem with “client”
..."Patrón"
Especially when she says “ cojeme…Jefe”…🤣🤣🤣
Appreciate the attempt at humor, but in all seriousness I find that "client" and "provider" are both descriptive and non-judgmental.
I would like to know why some guys have such an incredibly difficult time referring to themselves as a "client". I guess "monger" and "hobbyist" sounds a bit more elite and like you are in some special club, where as "client" puts everyone on the same playing field of all guys just being your average Joe Schmo paying to get a BJ. I guess it is kind of the same as the "porn stars" who get offended when they are lumped into the same group as all other sex workers. I had one very angrily tell me that she is not a common "prostitute", she is a LEGAL actress!!!!
hooker-fucker, pig, deviant and wallet with legs.
I would never call you or any of my clients any of those names.
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ATM maybe? LOL (I did kind of like "wallet with legs")
I don't think many of us take the labels that seriously.
It really doesn't matter to many of us. Client, John, monger, hobbyist. Whatever you want to call me. Whatever term for buying sex, I'm good for it. Never cared much about semantics unless its deliberately downplaying something with euphemisms.
I like buyer/seller too because it takes out the whole "misogynist" card some like to play.
I really don't think it's about being in elite circle or whatever. I personally hate the elitist vip mentality. I am always with the people and average Joe's not some vip guy enjoying special privileges.
I don't think the term monger is anywhere near elite where client would make it sound more like a professional relationship. I'm okay with monger because I acknowledge the degenerate behavior involved in what we do. I don't understand why some women think they must tell us we're wrong to refer ourselves as such.
But like I often say to my SO when she askes what I want to do, I say "what to you want me to want to do?" It's just fucking easier that way...
You can call yourself whatever you want, but if we want to move forward with our industry as being a legitimate business we should refer to ourselves with legitimate titles. Having consensual sex with another consensual adult and paying for it is only "degenerate" by societal standards right now because of the illegality of it, not the actual act of having sex. And paying someone to have sex with you *is* a professional relationship. Buying weed on the corner used to be degenerate behavior when it was illegal. Now with it being legal the people that sell it in dispensaries are considered having a legitimate profession, just like hopefully sex work will be in the near future.
I don't want this to become a legitimate profession, and I don't think providers want that either. Look what happened with marijuana when they made it legal. Prices dropped like a rock as weed went from $400 an oz to $50-$100 an ounce and it is constantly in your face. People still look down on potheads and weed smokers too. If anything there is even more resentment since it is constantly in everyone's face now. Many people have lost a lot of money in that industry as well since the margins are shit and many of the jobs don't pay that well.
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In Europe they have giant FKK clubs where immigrants turn tricks for 100 Euros. They will open giant brothels anywhere they can. I don't think the providers charging $1000/hour in NYC will want to compete with the Times Square Blow Job Factory, which will be staffed by H1-BJ immigrants grateful for the opportunity to blow 10-20 dudes a day at rock bottom prices. It may be different for you in Wisconsin, but for a lot of ladies it will mean the end of their career.
Yeah it's one of those things that sounds good to a seller until they realize the implications.
Not only will foreign girls will set up shops, the legality will make it mass spread.
Now the escorts will be taxed. That's a huge chunk of money gone. For all the risk the escorts get, uncle Sam taking 40% of their income is probably well woeth the risk. And it's not like all risk would be gone.
It's all hypothetical of course, because I don't think we're anywhere close to prostitution being legalized.
There is a HUGE difference between legal vs. decriminalized. ALL sex workers want sex work fully decriminalized, for buyers and sellers. NO sex workers want our profession to remain illegal. Legal vs. decriminalized function completely different. And yes, I do live in rural Wisconsin but I have connections all over the world with sex worker rights organizations. I have never heard any sex worker that I have ever communicated with think that decriminalization will end their career. I appreciate your input on the topic but your hypnosis of what will happen to sex workers is pretty bleak and outlandish and not based in reality. The majority of Europe is legalized, NOT decriminalized, except for Belgium, that decriminalized sex work in 2022. If you have any questions feel free to reach out!!!
Every other vice that is legal is also highly regulated. I understand lots of providers support “decriminalized” prostitution over “legalized” prostitution but is that feasible or realistic? Is the general public going to be ok with unregulated sex work? I’m pretty sure the general public is going to want some rules ro make sure nobody can operate a brothel next to an elementary school.
The majority of the general public views sex workers as "victims" and clients as "villains". If anything we are going to continue to see stings being targeted at clients and sex workers being "rescued". Unfortunately we will probably see Nordic model type legal systems enacted before we see full decriminalization. Street based sex work and large brothels are no longer really a thing with the internet so not sure if that is on anyone's radar at this point. Legalization with any sort of regulation would mean that people would agree with sex work and support it, so I am very doubtful we will see that anywhere anytime soon. The legal brothels in Nevada were very profitable because the brothel owners were in cahoots with police to arrest any non brothel sex workers that were in competition with the brothels. We are also seeing that less and less and even in Vegas there is more tolerance to the sex workers so the brothels are becoming almost obsolete at this point.
I live in Wisconsin as well.
Upscale providers have to compete with $50 escorts as it is currently! I concur, legalization will bring plenty more cheap providers. I had friends I trained in the business take my clients because they charged 1/4 of my rate. However, sooner or later the client usually comes back because the other provider will usually pull some desperate scammer stunt! Unfortunately, the majority of providers in my area(SE WI) charge 1/4 and even 1/8th of my rate for bare! I don't offer that service at all! Because of this, I find myself having to slightly compromise my rate(Nothing crazy, I'll deduct $20-$40 at most). I'm a older provider(40), but I keep up with my injections, and I keep my body in top shape! I look early thirties at most (So I'm told). It helps to look good, but clients sometimes overlook that for a cheaper rate. In addition, the current economic hardships faced by many isn't helping things at all. With the excessive inflation, people don't have disposable income like before. It's a multi-faceted ordeal!
You are involved with sex workers rights? I advocate as well! I really want to know more about you if possible!
I am currently writing an academic text on decriminalizing sex work in America.
Currently, most experts compare the price of sex work to the horse and buggy vs a car. Horses and their upkeep are still elite. Being an equestrian is more elite now than it was 100 years ago. Then, not everyone owns a car. Then, while they might own a car, there are many levels and price points. One can buy ANYTHING for different price points. Cereal. Eggs. And currently sex. Instead of choosing providers with websites and reviews, you could ALWAYS pick up a street walker.
Pussy is valuable. Fucking is a skill. The GFE or whatever your fetish is, is a skill. JOI? Humiliation? Domination? SKILLS. Escorting may be one of the few positions that cannot be taken over by AI. Decriminalization is not going to oversaturate the market. 🤣🤣🤣 Women are not going to start turning tricks because it is legalized. Have a little respect for our profession... If anyone and everyone could do it NOW, then they would.
So, go get those $100 BJs. Do you really think the model you want will be low-priced?
And, I currently make more as a cam-girl in Europe and Russia than sex workers there. They don't really have strip clubs. They have 'banana bars' and red light districts. So, they go crazy for exotic dancing! And they love Americans! We will always want the exotic imports.... That's my .02.
...posts what a provider thinks or wants. But too that, across the spectrum...how many of them will look a few layers into it or a couple years down the road at what their options look like? Like you said, for every action, there is reaction. Decriminalizing the sex industry is great for the guys, it's puts us back in control. It's something that almost every male or lesbo politician who isn't a bible thumper would want, they just can't be seen voting for it. Put $100 retail bj's in inspected locations where dude can walk in and pick his favorite flavor or walk down the street to the competition on the ballot for a blind vote and you'll see it passed by a 65/35 split.
Mamdami is a sex worker ally but cannot legalize prostitution in NYC, it's a state issue but will likely stop enforcement of prostitution laws unless trafficking is involved and this should be enough to blow the market open to pop up brothels.
I recall reading an interview with Lisa Ann, wherein she absolutely shat on providers. In her view, providers were beneath her and undeserving of her respect or support. I guess there's a part of our brains that desperately wants to find dignity and integrity in ourselves--to feel good about themselves. Some find that by treating other humans well and by doing good works. Some find it (or think they're finding it) by shitting on other people.
Amen, brother.
You walk like a duck 🦆 talk like a dick
Your a male chauvinist pig 🐷
Maybe 🤔 you didn’t know. Now you do.
If you don’t respect women this applies to you.
Truman asks
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oO_jtlib_x4
....losers or cheaters who need or choose to rent pussy. If we're going to get all judgmental all of the sudden...and you are a prostitute.
I am a guest of my hostess.
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I don't do outcall, but if I did, she would be the guest of the host.
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So who is the Hostess with the Mostess?
"Making nice guys out of stinkers seems to be my cup of tea ..."
Really… if we want this realm to be normalized then we should use normal words
I don’t have clients. I have friends. I love my friends!
I never had a true connection when I referred to people who pay me for the pleasure of my company as anything less, than friends.
If you consider your clients tricks, John’s, mongers, hobbyists, you’re never going to truly have a genuine relationship.
These TER trolls 🧌 are not our clientele. If they are I’m sorry. You don’t have the freedom to pick and choose.
Is the guy whose appearance you publicly mocked and doxxed on this board your friend too? Seems pretty cruel thing to do to a supposed friend.
Just asking. For a friend 
Heres the link if ppl somehow think I made it up. "Friends for life" lol.
You may disagree with what she said to him but she never doxxed him. She said he was bald and she saw him at the Ramada. That is not doxxing.
You're right, she didn't dox him. She wasn't so nice, but not even close to the same thing. That said, as a blad man, I don't like someone being bald being used as an insult.
She attacked her own client (who merely pointed out her statement was false) and brought up his appearance and where she saw him (information that can be used to identify him) for no reason whatsoever.
OK fine, no doxxing. But again that information could be used to identify the guy.
Real friend, that one. Hell of a friend. Don't we all wish we had a friend like this.
You obviously 🙄 don’t know how to read. It’s rather pathetic your life is so miserable that you have to copy and paste my old posts. I feel sorry for you truly I do.
My friend for life was the provider whom whitelisted him. He was her client not mine. I saw him once & would never repeat. She’s still around. I whitelisted her here long ago. Sorry you don’t make friends for life here on TER. I do.
It’s very odd your attempts to assassinate my character. I met him 13 years ago. I just created my first life. Motherhood. Fast forward to today look 👀 at my resume here on TER. I have continued to grow and move forward.
I see how TER trolls run off providers. It’s a fun fact many providers delist from TER due to the bs, negativity. It’s no secret more & more providers choose not to participate in TER’s review culture. Why mock, or continue to disrespect me?
I’m just a real person who provides an excellent service.
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You keep making these posts how all your clients are your friends and other stuff like that. But actions speak louder than words so I just reminded how you treated one of your clients who, conversely is a friend according to you.
Now you're saying he's not a client even though you serviced him. What does it make him? Is every client you've had a conflict with not your client? Lol help it make sense.
It's funny because I didn't insult you but you are now starting to insult me. I just reminded of a post you yourself made.
True nature of a person is known through conflict or hardship.
I'm sure all these butterflies rainbows and unicorn stuff is great as fluff in threADs. But when it comes to issues suddenly this whole thing goes away and suddenly it's not your friend or even a client anymore. Lol.
And btw don't take it personal.
"Tbh your all male chauvinists
You walk like a duck 🦆 talk like a dick
Your a male chauvinist pig"
When you post words like that, you make yourself fair game for anyone that wants to attack you and have no reason to feel offended if/when they do.
You always seemed like a fairly level-headed woman but I guess the real person eventually shows up.
One lady (a frequent euphemism), in a discussion about nomenclature, replied to one of the common ones with "How would you like it if I called you a Trick?" and expected me to be horrified.
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Nope.
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Sticks and stones, and all that.
I'd rather be brief and clearly understood, than cutesy or mysteriously inside-golf (a recent euphemism). Some of these coinages seem motivated only by a desire to show off one's inclusion in some exclusive sub-sub-subset of sex-service buyers.
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Pfui.
One lady (a frequent euphemism), ...
Henny Youngman: That was no lady, that was my wife!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjv62ogBU98
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4JwiFCqgAk&list=RDI4JwiFCqgAk
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(Or possibly a much earlier origin: http://arnoldzwicky.org/2017/09/17/revisiting-7-nlw )
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Henny Youngman: Take my wife ... PLEASE!
