Wow, what goes on it the head of some of the guys who try P4P.
Falling in love, asking a provider to be exclusive, can't handle the cost and then the only way to keep her from seeing other clients is to try and destroy her rep.
Seriously...

It's sounds like you maybe the guy she is speaking of by your response , please do share your side if you have one .  Miss K

Rather than Favorite , I went with Hooker

I'll bet it is!

I'm confused.. Is GLS a guy or a girl

The issue isn't that she is a provider, it's that she is a woman and invariable once she knows she has you hooked your f'ed.  They have been doing this since the dawn of civilization, they've convinced you marry her, settle down, for what?  Sex is always better with the other woman now why would you go and ruin that by making her the woman.

A lot of them do...May she is a man sometimes [e]

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Any guy who falls for a provider is begging for heart break. Unless you can afford to match what she gets as a provider in cash and not feel too financially strained, the guy is going to end up broke, at which point someone he wants an exclusive relationship with will go back to the industry, resulting in the guy feeling bad about what he's making plus likely having jealousy issues. I've definitely felt the twinge of emotions for a provider before, especially recently (going through a divorce now), but you've got to focus on reality and that the woman is providing a fantasy for you. If you can't distinguish fantasy from reality, you shouldn't hobby. And trying to screw up her reputation is pretty petty.

Please stop embarrassing me like this

BS.  On 5) that is not at all what love is?  That is stupidity.  Also people who love each other hurt each other all the time, love is actually a very self serving emotion.

and most of the time it turns out to be just like the OP described it.

The usual story is, guy meets girl, guy falls in love with girl because she smiled at him after fucking him, guy wants girl all to himself,but can't afford it, guy tries to make girl financially dependent on him by ruining her business. girl defends herself, We all get a soap opera chapter for our amusement.

It happens sometimes that the girl is just goes BSC, but I have to confess the odds are, that the OP is right on target.

It still amazes me that after all the horror stories here, guys still try to buy love. Not that love is impossible with a hooker, quite the contrary, I have had several LTR's with hookers, but you can't "BUY" love,  and I wouldn't want that kind of love even if I could.

That is love for yourself, not someone else. It is what we have when we declare love for someone else. What do you think your declaration " love is actually a very self serving emotion" means?
You prove me right by calling BS Mr. Wadsworth.

But I am outing your ass

I guess I'm just that selfish bastard.  What can I say!

workplace relationships happen all the time.  Some last and some don't.
Of course, there are the instances where somebody's imaginations get the better
of themselves.

we all are ruled by 5 basic emotions..ANGER..DISGUST..FEAR..HAPPINESS and SADNESS..i doubt if LOVE  qualifies..keeping them in the right balance is the key to any relationship..

Me Too!
In fact, anyone who says otherwise.......watch out.
Selfishness isn't such a bad thing though, it is closely related to our survival instinct.
Imagine, if you can, how long would someone survive, or at least thrive, if they were truly in love. It's almost laughable if it weren't so sad.

But I don't really have anything to contribute.
One time I almost got myself mixed up in a SD financial situation.
I really liked this girl. I didn't realize how much.
My infatuation with her almost got me to agree to something that would have crippled me financially.
What can I say. I was blinded by her graces.

I agree that love is not about ourselves, but to say we won't be affected when someone we love lies or hurts us, is absurd. If I am NOT hurt, then it means I don't give a fk about that person to begin with. There is an old saying that goes, "You can't hate someone you never truly loved," and I find much truth to that.  

but you don't see me here whining about them when they, just like most other relationships, eventually go wrong.

I will agree that usually when a john/hooker relationship goes wrong the guy is usually the one that looks the stupidest, and I hate to sound like a WK for the ladies, but in most of the cases where the drama reaches the boards, the guy usuaaly is the one at fault. Again, I hate to resort to platitudes, but most "real men" don't feel the need to whine about it on a fuck board everytime their heart is broken by a woman, civvie or hooker makes no difference.

Just watch the video AGAIN to see how I feel about Manginas. You know the damn link!

All of us have at least some walls we put up in order not to be hurt, the people who get past those walls are the only ones that can truly hurt us.

So yeah, I call bullshit on that statement too.

And that reminds me of a mutual friend who is doing some whining (elsewere) on this subject.  I have sent him a thoughtful email telling him to STFU and seek professional counseling! LOL

Because some are that fkin stupid to think that a girl they paid is actually in love with them, or could be. Again, many times providers bring this shit on themselves with all the mind games they play, whilst off the clock. Not saying that is happening in this situation, but it certainly does happen. There is a local gal who is famous for this type of shit, then she wants to freak out when the very guys she tried to manipulate see other providers...especially, when they see providers she can't stand lol.  

He already has professional counseling, but he hasn't yet learned how to STFU about it. I think WE should send him a bill for counseling, and having to listen to his drunken bellowings over it. lol

That crap sounds like he stole it from a fortune cookie.

Of course we all know that he has been a contender for the Dumgina award for some time now.

If the individual is who it sounds to be, you can each be a better, more understanding friend by educating yourself about Histrionic Personality Disorder.

My question is, how f'ing old are you?  You are still getting your heart broken by women.  I mean ok, teens early 20's, yeah ... I get it, we've all been there, but you are a grown as man crying over a f'ing woman.   Don't get me wrong the easiest way for it to happen is you believe it can't but I'm not older at all and by 25 I figured how this game goes, all women are the same provider or otherwise, there is no difference.  Someone please slap this dude for me.  What happened to the saying, getting your heart broken just makes you a better dog, apparently it just makes some of you men bigger pussies.

And there you have it, you paid her, no women that you pay is ever going to love you, because, she won't respect you, there fore she will not value you, therefore she can not love you.  She might love her pimp, who doesn't fuck her when she wants or give her money- take a hint.  What makes you think she wants to be saved? Is your name Christ, Muhammad, or whatever you believe in? Fucking morons, I'm not saying anything isn't possible, but this is just the way it goes.  It's the same reason why you can treat a woman like shit, especially, if she's gorgeous and she'll have fucked up head complex forever and she'll love you.  I don't get it, personally, but as they say hate the game.

AMEN!

and he is far from the only one to have posted here that suffers from being a "Drama Queen" or as you seem to prefer in your psycho babble terms, "Histrionic Personality Disorder"

LOL. I get what your saying. Guys need to keep prospective and some clowns just don't. They make me glad I don't provide.

If so, where the fuck did I say that "I" was getting my heart broken? Either you misplaced your post, or you are in serious need for some remedial lessons in reading comprehension.

I clearly said that while I have had LTR's with hookers I don't come crying here "when they go wrong" not that I get my fucking heart broken.  I am way past getting my heart broken by a hooker or any other woman for that matter. Why the fuck do you think I fuck hookers in the first place?

I guarantee you one fucking thing, you don't want to get in a bich slapping contest with me.

No please just tell me that you meant your response for someone else, and we can forget the whole fucking thing.

"all time hooker"?  so, she plays for pay 24/7?  i don't know anyone short of a chained up sex slave that does that.  

And don't slap me, I sue.

You married a provider, but hey...seems like that works. You did not fall in love with EVERY provider you saw just because they gave you a little bit of attention, or got fixated on one who did not return that affection.

and I wanted to put those rumors to rest.

After all, I do have a reputation to protect. lol

You can't make a whore into a housewife. The closest would be if you fell in love with her and allowed her to keep providing.

You can't turn a whore into a housewife. The closest would be if you fell in love and she continues providing and you live with it.

I thought by now we would have moved on to topic such as is TER being monitored through Google, Verizon, ComCast and a hoard of others to identify Providers, then turning their names (real names) over to the IRS for collecting on unreported income... Now There's a problem.

Funny thing, I never was my wife's client. I met her the old fashioned way, chance. We became good friends, then dated, fell in love, then we had sex. Not once did I directly pay for it. If I did I honestly don't think We would have become a couple. Both of us know how to keep romantic feeling out of P4P. That is why our open marriage works.

nomarriage,  my friend, the western women has priced themselves out of the market.  It's comedy when I first finished school and entered into the drudgeries of "picket fence" America, one of the older gents was going through a divorce, the man warned me , don't do it.  And he actually told me to go to that website.  The guy who started figured out the cost of his wife,  

I recently celebrated my birthday.  I invited my UTR provider over and we had a "Day Date."  She is actually a stripper who provides for me.  We had sex the minute she walked in as we had not seen each other in a while.  after she pleasured me, we made Lunch - Bloody Mary's with berry/cream crepes soaked in Grand Marnier.   Ummmmm... then we went to my community pool, where she sat by my side in a  teeny weeny bikini.... while I watch the other loungers lite up with either envy or jealousy...

Yes, but the problem (as you know) is has has no money and can only pay us back in Green Chili.  And I can't eat that much of the stuff!

Madiba is just showing his ignorance of the patient.  Anyone who really knows him is aware he suffers from a full-spectrum of personality disorders.
PS: I'm not a real doctor.  I just play one on TV.

Of the favorite saying of a provider friend of mine

he only plays doctor on TER, or therapist, or whatever the fuck he calls himself.

Therapist?  I think not.  The rapist?  Naaaah!  Lame?  Certainly.

Can't wait for our MFM with my ATF!
(I'm the one in the T-Shirt)

While there is much in what you say, as with all broad generalizations it falls on its face in some situations.  For example, I know of several relationships in the business in which a provider married a client.  Is it simply a long-term SB relationship?  Who knows.  But several of which I'm aware have lasted for years.
My direct experience is that, when played right, this game works the opposite of civvie dating where you go through an elaborate and expensive ritual before you fuck.  Here, you fuck first, then if there's a connection, a friendship sometimes follows.  Some of these friendships become partially or completely OTC.  Most don't last long.  But they do exist, briefly, like a snowflake melting as it hits the earth.  They can be great fun.
And, if all women are manipulative and only in it for the money, please explain the hot little number I took to dinner OTC and insisted on paying because of some things I'd done for her?  And not expensive things, either.  
Point is, life is complicated and this game has many permutations if you're open to them.  And, no, I have never fallen for a hooker and been unable to get up.

I don't want anybody getting the wrong idea that I am a "nice" guy.

As for you there is a rather lengthy anagram that says it all, Do I really even need to say it?

notes that, for someone who has named himself after a great American novelist, your post is riddled with mis-use of language.  Viz:
1) "piece of mind"  No.  peace of mind.
2) "but low"  No.  but lo.
3) "strung a most enticing tune." No.  sung a most enticing tune.
4) "there whiley ways."  No and no.  their wiley ways.
Sorry, I just can't help myself sometimes.
PS: there were more errors, but I think I made my point.  All in good fun.

It's not an anagram, it's an acronym!
FYATWYRIO!

but wait, what intent upon  his writ was wrote?

his quasi erudite, self important rambling chock full of grammar and spelling errors was setting my teeth on edge... next he'll be mixing metaphors...

I've heard his mother is a good cook though, but I've only heard it from him, so I guess even that is suspect.

Now, what are the odds as to who is going to snitch us off to him?

Of course, there are no absolutes and nothing last forever.  Sometimes I just talk to hear myself talk, call me a narcissist.  Most of it can't be taken to seriously but then again it can.

You too could write like that. lmao

I thought I was going to be a fan until he started talking (rather incoherently I might add) about the two "hotties" a week he could get for less than twenty grand a year, that's when my eyes rolled to the back of my head, ala Laffy, and I finally gave up on the post.

If you take the time proof read posts on a fucking , p4p, message board you need to get a fucking life.  That is all.

Pretty good, I'd say.  But you know he'd love it.  He also has admitted to lurking here, so we'll have to see.

Not really that big!  Just too big for London! LOL!  I have no basis for comparison so you'd have to check with the ladies.

And in each and every case the reply was three letters only

but one thing you say gives me hope in re to you. "There are no absolutes" looking for love in P4P is a fools errand and is almost guaranteed to end badly, but I have made some very real connections in the hobby, some of them have lasted for years and many of them started with money involved and grew into to something real.

It's just not true that a woman cannot fall in love with a man who once paid to fuck her, I have had more than one fall in love with me where our relationship started as john/hooker. The last one ended only recently, and believe it or not, I ended it because of HER jealousy, not mine, and no, I don't have a giant cock, in fact I could probably fuck London if I wanted to. lol

So, "Go Fuck Yourself!!!"

I guess I could take the pussy's way out and go back and edit out my mistake, but fuck it. I fucked up, sue me!!!

Who knew

After receiving a Minute issued by a priggish civil servant, objecting to the ending of a sentence with a preposition and the use of a dangling participle in official documents, Churchill red pencilled in the margin: “This is the sort of pedantry up with which I will not put.” Winston Churchil

I am such a movie dork.

Long Outsized Leviathan.
You see.  The poor girl has trouble keeping it down

Just having fun here, which is what the boards are for

Let me change this and see how you view it now.

You gotta be careful with what you say to these women.
That is all... Oh! End of Transmission..

Besides, son, I made that up!  Now here is my favorite Conan quote!

Do have any idea how lame that is?  You really need to get more game.  What you've got ain't cuttin' it, shortfellow

But he's easily upset if you disagree with him.  Not that it would worry you, LOL!

Gosh!  Well that puts things in a different light?  I shall certainly mind my Ps and Qs around you from now on!
Right!

For the Stupidest Poster of the Year!  I submit his nomination.  It's early, but he's coming on strong

Actually multiple train wrecks in this thread.

People are manipulative and yes people are insane, and yes it varies, however, I'm sorry women in both regards are on a different level compared to men.  And this has nothing to do with P4P.

But seriously you guys take things too literal.  Obviously, nothing is absolute, it's just all things being equal, on average, the norm ....

He is not only stupid, argumentative, has zero game, makes post after post with no mind to the fact that he looks stupider with each post. In short, he is a Dungbeetle without the mangina tendencies.

Yes, I concur we have another real candidate here. BTW do you see the latest post by Escalade? He actually thought that explicit talk was still not allowed, EVEN during the act of fucking itself, so the competition is fierce this month. That said your nominee certainly has potential to go a long ways in this competition.

That was just too easy, come on step up your game or you will only be good for the SPOTY's. At least you aren't a mangina, but your game is definitely weak. Step it up young man, or go back down to the minors

Too bad your post was wasted on a moron, but at least it didn't go unnoticed by all. Great Post,

That was the funniest fucking subject line I've seen in a long time!  Fucker!
Christ! Somebody please tell WorthlessWadd to go away and come back when he's got some fucking game.

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The only thing they can compete in is the SPOTY's

Put your hooker heels on for a few weeks, then come back and tell us how you like it...then, tell us WHY we charge so fkin much. Guys use the review system and the boards to harm providers who don't kiss their ass or offer them discounts, or in this case...PRETEND to love them. These are rarely newbies either, but guys who think their so called reputation entitles them to more than the next.

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...Longfellow was a great American POET, not a novelist.

You said what I was thinking about his writing, but at least Wadsworthless Shortfellow has lofty aspirations.  It's always good to set your sights high.  It should only take Shorty about ten years to learn to write competently.

I have to agree with you on this one London.

to garner favor from a lady....  however, there was that one night in phoenix when I did indeed become "BizzaroSuperdude!"  It was a magnificent night - never to be replicated.  to be capped by the Moon over my Hammy!

When I posted my response (which is way below). But I guess I was correct!

How did you let GaG get away with "might of?"

I stand by my original statement.

The unfortunate reality is that I've been in contact with the said provider, and she just wanted to be cool....the guy became possesive, and wanted exclusive otc.....Really!
Then threatened her....total BS!
He's the train wreck....she's trying to have fun and make a living.
OTOH there are some providers who can be train wreck wenches.
Life happens folks.....realize it and move on.
There are plenty of ladies who'd be glad to have your c'k and $$$'s ......  

I would only imply that any pain caused is from your own selfishness, not love for the other.
This thing we call love comes complete with all the fantasies of how we want things to be, and when it doesn't turn out that way, we blame the person we "love" for their faults. After all, we have treated them so well, they should do what we want, right? Problem is, you want loved in return, but you can't make someone else love you no matter how good you treat them, no matter what you give them, no matter how good looking you are, no matter how deeply you love them and it hurts like hell when they declare their love for you, but they are lying. You counted on that one thing and built a great future around it.
Yes, my dear London, it will hurt like hell, and the bigger the sand castle you built, the harder it will fall, but don't blame him for your deception. "Love" is an easily throw around word, and I am learning to hear it with little weight, and try to say it only with the understanding that it is an impossible life commitment, that will cost me everything.
That is why I like you my dear, I only love you if I will give you everything without reservation or regret. Since I'm not such a noble person though, I might throw out that term for a good roll in the sack, BEWARE!

Conan cannot be everywhere, and while GaGa does make some grammatical miscues, he is not a flagrant violator.

Things "posted" here are not always serious, but in this case, I would say it is. One more time, try being a hooker or stfu about a subject your clearly have zero knowledge about. GLS is talking about a real person, and a real event taking place...his post is not just for commentary and the PMs I have plus Ocpatain's post, confirm it. The train wreck is banter and back and forth between a group of guys, and has nothing to do with the OP or his post nor anyone else who replied to the TOPIC, which I might add...you failed to do.  

It's chllE....that yucky chilli stuff cums from Texass!!   Jest sayin'.....tall me I'm wrong!   LMAO!!

which is why I hold him to a higher standard. :

the final line is most important. their women will need comforted!

He is not a flagrant violator. Because of this, I thought Conan would hold him to a higher standard, and was surprised he missed this, as I know he made an appearance in this thread right below! :

Ok, but you're talking about two different things here. 1. Love, and 2. Putting unrealistic expectations on another human being, which love has nothing to do with. You can have those same expectations whether you love a person or not, and it's not about being selfish but about trust. We tend to trust those we love more than some random person off the street, so when they betray that trust, I don't think selfishness has the foot forward in the feelings produced by such a betrayal.  

but I suppose that "when in the ABQ, do as the ABQ'rs do" lol

and yes, You're Wrong!!! lmao

especially on days when I PUI (post under the influence)

I rarely post using an I Pad, and never post using a smart phone for that very reason. No matter how hard you try there are going to be times that your "smart" phone is going to make you look very stupid when using it.

Yes, you may have a chance in the SPOTY's afterall.

Why pigeon hole him only as a poet...he's One of "America's Great Authors"

93 of them so far. 7 more and I get a toaster oven.