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CiaraHasFun See my TER Reviews 5390 reads
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Being that men don't like filling out ladies forms. ( Heck, with recent events in the news, I can't say I blame ya ! )  I Wouldn't fill out your form either .. LOL..

I know you all respect the fact that us girls need to be safe, There isn't any doubt about that.

Without giving so much personal info, what do you think is a good way to let us girls know we are safe from 2 catergories.

le
dangerous men -
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Name a few ideas !
I bet you all have some good ones !!

We could meet in a very public place...like outside HSBC Arena?

im all about that, party at hsBC
I m there thursday night ! See you then?

I was looking at the schedule and saw that there are 2 home games on Saturdays.  I'm getting REAL tempted.  Now if I could score a pair of tix, could I interest you in going inside the building?

acidom ! If that happens, I will reciprocate and buy you a canadian beer in a Sabres plastic memoir cup..will this compensate enough ?  ROFL

I was hoping that after being in a big crowd, we could sneak away for a bit, but... if it's a Molson's, I guess that would do.

bob4chix1094 reads

You could call me wife, she'll give me a good recommendation.

There are so many.  Quick answer on LE:  Have a discreet incall.  LE can more easily stake out an outcall for entrapment.  If you can afford it, occasionally go UTR to reduce your profile.  Dangerous men:  Screen his reviews and references including white listings.  Push the envelope a bit, if he won't fill out your form, then you could ask for a pic (he asks you for them) and purge it and all emails only after the session. If he resists giving you his TER handle so you can check his reviews then you should be hinky about seeing him until after thoroughly checking out his references.  Despite our terrors we legit gents care as much for your safety as ours.  Too many horror stories of bad vice guys and dangerous men.  These are simple, common sense, and essential starters.  Provider's 101.

Most of us want you to feel comfortable and secure with making the appointment in or out.
What scares us is the accumulation of personal information providers may have in their little books or their laptop.  LE would love to have it!!
The verification process is what it is..  I don't know if it can be streamlined and still provide that comfort zone to providers.
TER is probabley your best source of security if your clients are members, and have some reviews posted. References are of course the other tool.. I have had some providers tell me however that some girls will not return calls or emails regarding giving a reference. Sounds like a problem on your end of things..

Actually I've never had a problem with references nor any issue with excessive privacy intrusions.  Most of my ladies keep their "C" drives clean.  What I was suggesting in that regard is that if any disaster should occour, forensics could recover it to catch the bad guy.  Me and my ladies all play safe.

Correct, refs are a problem, its why i am asking what makes gents more comfortable instead of filling out a form. how can we feel more at ease...

Thanks for your input -

Charolotte, LoL, thanks .. I Know ALL THIS. Im asking the men, when THEY think is a good idea.. to make us feel safe.. Not our ideas...

Thanks for the input though

1.) Just as men should be TER VIPs, ladies should take advantage of the free VIP they get for being providers so they can see a gentleman's White List and read his reviews to see if he is someone they want to meet.

2.) A Lady should be a member of as many verification services as possible so Gentlemen who have built up significant verifications on sites like Date-Check can use those for verification.

3.) Again the TER provider VIP gives ladies access to the providers only board where "problem" guys are discussed.

4.) Guys using a single email across their hobbying life is helpful too.  One addy to verify and use for verification.  (I have one ID "Terrev" on three sites and one email address that also covers all three sites and my communications with the ladies.  Ladies can search for me by that ID or email on any of those sites and verify me.)

5.) Again the TER Provider VIP allows PMs to providers and TER Men to verify their id and their connection to White List and reviews.

I am sure there are a hundred other things to do, but I work hard to maintain my White List and my Date-Check profile.  When ladies will not accept that, I seldom see them, because I have done my work, I should not have to give up a bunch of personal information to them because they haven't done their work.

This is their business, and if they don't treat that with respect, I have found that they aren't likely to treat me with any either.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Good Luck and Good Hobbying!

I think the provider should do whatever makes her feel comfortable. Maybe we don't look to TER to make all our decisions. ;) And . . . maybe there are personal reasons for what sites we want to belong to or not. It's also not a matter of us not doing our homework. Just because you are on Date-Check doesn't mean you haven't suddenly turned into a serial rapist. Just kidding.:) Some of those sites are not very up-to-date or accurate, my dear. I don't rely on any agency to tell me about someone I don't know. I'd rather here it from the provider who has seen you recently. There is a big problem with someone emailing me and telling me his TER handle. It's helpful to know his pesonality but that doesn't mean the guy giving me the handle is the guy I will be seeing.

It's ignorant to think that just because a TER guy/handle is whitelisted doesn't mean the guy who shows up at my door is the same person. I could be talking to a Ken who isn't a member of TER but is telling me his handle is Terrev. But I respect your opinion. However, if that's the referencing you want me to check then I guess you and I will never see each other. What a shame! :(

Hugs,
Ciara

-- Modified on 5/8/2007 12:59:47 PM

But I am not talking about verification through other providers here, I was talking about alternative means of verifying that we are neither "Law Enforcement or Dangerous" without giving so much personal information in forms, as Ciara asked.  (BTW - CiaraPhx and CiaraHasFun are two different people right?)

I would gladly have you call anyone who has White Listed or verified me on Date-Check.  I just don't want to have to give out any more personal information than I have to.

Not only that, If I have 32 reviews and 11 White List referrals all from the last year.  Isn't that a pretty good indicator of who I am?  Maybe even more so than one conversation with one provider I may have seen six months ago?

I am not trying to upset you, but you seem to have taken issue with comments I made to a specific question from this post and applied them to a post from earlier on this board.

I did not mean to imply there was anything wrong with your system, I was just sharing my thoughts on this specific thread.

Have A Great Day!

and, of course, what works for me. You have every right to see whomever makes you feel most comfortable. But, again, remember that a TER member on a white list does not give me the real gentlemen's name. And . . . for those who back channel, that doesn't help me with feeling safe about who the person really is. It didn't help me when I was a member of TER. And, yes! I'm a legitimate provider. Being a member of TER doesn't have anything to do with reference-checking. And . . . a TER membership doesn't really tell me diddly squat. Anyone can be a member. No offense to TER.

I think what I've said is factual, and I know there are many providers who will not take a reference just by your name on the White List. I'm not alone. Just pointing out some interesting information to you. Plus, I've spoken to many providers over the years and these are their feelings, too. I've been in this business awhile. Take it or leave it. Just my .02 cents (like the guys' opinions on this board). Gees! :)

Hugs,
Ciara

-- Modified on 5/8/2007 2:29:57 PM

PM the guy or have him PM you. Of course, that is for VIPs only.

-- Modified on 5/8/2007 1:17:41 PM

If I am emailing you, you can search the White List by email address as well and my TER ID and my White List pop up from that search.  It is the same with Date-Check my ID and email are linked.

Or you could ask me to PM you from TER and know that they are my White List referrals.

However, As much as we want to believe, not ever hobbyist, or man looking for an escort, are on review boards, they've never heard of them.. when one types in Buffalo escorts, or Cleveland escorts, or NY escorts, or any city at all. review boards dont show up.

Its easy enought to screen the TER' boys and review board men for sure... thats the easy part.. Its the newbs that are very reluctant. with good reason of course... But these are surely great answers.. Thanks so very much !

While nothing is a 100% certain, I think the safest alternative is the combination of a reference from a well known provider (a provider that you are comfortable with accepting her recommendation) and contacting the gentleman's place of employment would alleviate 99 % of your fears. Having a solid reference from another provider should eliminate most of your concerns that he is dangerous while contacting the gentleman at his place of employment (calling the general number to the office) should eliminate most of your concerns that he is LE. I realize this is asking a lot as most gentleman do not have both to offer.

Now I realize that some gentleman do not have a reference and refuse to give their work number. I think you have to walk away from these men. If they dont care enough to provide you with the information you need in order for your peace of mind, then they are not worth seeing. Yes, its turning away potential business, but your safety must come first.

followme1308 reads

That FatherFollowme has the franchise on BINGO here.
He is insisting you meet him in the confessional.

to answer the original question ......
how about I just give  you my badge number and certificate of release from the asylum.

Thank You
2007=27

Forgive me, Father, for I have sinned. I have ... uh wait a minute. I sinned with you last night. Father, you must say five Hail Marys and make sure you're on your knees.

Hugs,
Ciara

followme2081 reads

A sin cause I was in HEAVEN.....
Hail Ciara
Full of class
followme is with thee............

Thank you
2007=27

This is what men are reluctant over, and its known fact, that most stings are set up at work places- so that ones a no go- i never ask for mens work info- its useless info to me -

this really isnt for me  -
Its just many girls complain men dont want to fill out forms.. and answer all that info - again, i wouldnt either if the shoe was on the other foot-
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...for home address and phone number.  I would rather do without than give out that info -- and not because of any fear of LE.  I should think that work info and web site IDs are all you'll get from most people.

Generally I feel good about giving my personal information to someone that I have gotten to know through this or other boards, and that's how I solve the problem.

Also, references from other providers of a cetain provider go a long ways towards increasing my comfort factor.

But, ya just never know if the girl just got busted and is working with LE or not...

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Many men pm'd me,to with great answers- I think ill pass them on to my other girlie friends..
Thanks for all the great answers everyone..

It isnt about putting the GIRLS at ease.. its about putting the man and lady at ease...

Thanks Rome Fans
Next caller please.
Out :)

I provide my web site for work - that has a brief bio of me on it, my picture and my work #- it also contains the names of my work colleagues....  and for most that is very comforting.  As to LE finding that on "someones" C drive.... they could have googled stuff and come up with me without me ever sending them anything... as for verifying that it is indeed me?  they call the number on the web site... and I tell them to google my real name... they get more than they really want.  and they are happy - if I am not the guy in the picture... guess what - they can walk away... (or more accurately  - send me packing).  As it is hard to miss a big green dude, I am usually ok.


For those who insist on speaking to someone that I've seen in the past - I usually give them a name or two... but that is kinda overkill... in most instances.  Do I refer to the white knight?  not really - although I think that the white knight status is more a "you're ok" to me from some ladies... than a reference to others... and it is a kindness much appreciated!

As far as being safe from a whacko?  Sorry, I've no clues.... especially after VA Tech.  Just don't have any clues....  

One night on a civie date, I had a lady (well considering maybe she was not a lady) pull a gun on me and the other couple we were with... why? Because she thought that the other dude was supposed to be with her, and she did not like the other dude's date holding his hand....  yea, and people wonder why I hobby!  sheese!

but for a different reason.  I'm new to the hobby and have only seen agency providers; hence, no references.  I do what BizzSD does and give the URL to my company website and give out enough info for them to check me out there.  I also can provide P611 and DateCheck IDs.  I can then provide a photo ID at the appointment, if desired.

Unless you are a prominent person, I think this personal info fear is way over played.  No one cares if your number is among hundreds or thousands in a database.  Besides it could have gotten there in any number of ways.

It may be that it is a FORM.  Forms tend to try to cover all situations and are not interactive.  I would much rather send an introductory email with some information and then respond to whatever else the lady needs.  On the form I may be asked questions that are not necessary for me.  In some cases the form is designed to require answers or you can't submit the damn thing.
 The information you need is what you need.  But if the purpose is screening why does a person have to list all possible dates they might want.  What seems like a convenience can soon be an overwhelming form.
 Because I am new to this area I like to get the screening out of the way before even trying to find a time.
 I think if there were a better way to cover security it would have been suggested already.
 Stay safe.
B

Once I am communicating with a lady I will suggest she google me and I tell her what she will find.  I send her a photo of me (also reduced the greeting shock (notice no awe) and tell her she will find another one when she googles.
 I have had a number of civvies google me.  I don't know if any providers have.
 Sometimes I will offer the license on my car.
B

the tone of the letter of introduction should be two items critical to helping you make a decision.  While services such as Date Check, RS2K etc., are ok they do not give you any idea re the personality of the client.... a referral from another provider plus the tone of the client's email(s) should go a long way to giving you some insight into their personalities.

Many have pm'd me asking me im posting under two different names.. LOL , im NOT
we are two different people.
One from arizona, the other from Buffalo NY..

Anyhow, thanks all for the great input
Bizarro, we wish all were like you ... we are glad you changed your ways- we were sick of seeing your green caped superdude pics for screening lOLOLOL

I can verify that these two are different!  one is the good twin..... and the other is the evil twin... now guess which is which! lol

And one of them has kissed a green toad! lol!!! and lived to tell the tale (or at least she was not seriously harmed!).

Seriously, I just don't know what gets into dudes... they want to perform the most intimate act two folks can do, with NO attachments... and they won't give the lady a comfort that they are not indeed an ax murderer- or worse - green!  sheese!  Name, job, where ya work, a phone # and maybe another gal you've seen...

And for all those who comment - well look at my white knight list or whatever... I would offer that anyone can look up a TER handle, get info on it and pretend to be, gasp, dare I say it?  "MOI!"  but, alas, they would not be green

This is why I provide the link to a web presence with my picture to ladies who ask.... it just proves that I am me.  or at least I think I am... most of the time.  I am me? am I not.... maybe I am Kent Clark..... hummm.... let me get back to you on that one.....

On that note, I'd like to know how much screening married hobbyists are comfortable with?
Of course, this has nothing to do with married status, but,if one were single they would have no problems registering with datecheck or RS2000 etc.
I really like the idea that Bizarro suggested- giving work website info. Can providers please reply with their comfort level with such an approach?

married or not
working or not
retired or not
Some men dont work at all, they are just wealthy.
vip or not
boyfriend of someone or not
Son of someone
ex of someone..
Its about all men not feeling so violated-
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I like the whole pic thing... and just showing their License at the door-after they give us their first name and last initial -
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its very kewl

-- Modified on 5/9/2007 1:13:51 PM

I have made a few exceptions when the guy has given me his website information and I was able to call his place of employment. But I still like to know if he is a nice guy from another provider.

Hugs,
Ciara

-- Modified on 5/9/2007 3:59:16 PM

-- Modified on 5/9/2007 4:00:09 PM

followme607 reads

Have numerous pics of me ....and should from that know my reputation.

So ladies are we good to go?

Thank You

-- Modified on 5/9/2007 8:04:13 PM

I dont see where terrev said anything wrong  -
Number one, and foremost, I am not talkng about making men on a review/message board to feel comfy.. I am talking about every man in america that looks for an escort..

Not every man in america even KNOW what TER or the other boards are. Im talking about MEN OUTSIDE OF TER , all men.

Ciara- it was a question of how the men would feel more comfy. Not other girls...  LOL

see providers but do not read TER!?  how do they ever know what to expect?  I mean don't all men come in and say "hey toots!  I would like a 9 performance with a nice CIM finish!?  and while we are at it, next time I see yas, could you go get some bolt ons... that way I could rate you a 10 in looks?!"  or do they say "gimme what Joe1234 got in may 06!"  You mean that actually come to you with no preconceived notion of what you do?   hummm?!

and how do they ever find you????  sheese, this must be some alien intelligence far from our planet... are you sure that these are human gents who find you?!  This is truly troubling........  perhaps you could get a sample of something from one of them and we could have it tested...(if only there was a way to get a biological sample that would be high in DNA, and that they would willingly part with.... can you think of anything that fits that description?) cause I am sure it came from an alien life form....   eeek..... does the president know about this?  perhaps they are outer space aliens trying to take our wimin!!!


-- Modified on 5/10/2007 1:52:43 PM

I'm simply responding to Terrev's statement about if a provider doesn't go to the sites he suggested to check him out, then -- as I'm quoting him -- "they didn't do their homework." That's exactly what I'm saying about TER. Not everyone is a member of TER. Many of my clients don't even know about TER. That's my point!

Read carefully, girlfriend. Gees!  I need to come over to Buffalo and spank you, but you might thoroughly enjoy it, my evil twin.

Hugs,
Ciara

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