but maybe I missed something somewhere. But I can't remember a post where someone called his wife fat or ugly. I hear a lot of, I'm being driven mental, But not my wife is un attractive. I'm sure it's been done, but it doesn't seem like it's a Rampant problems worthy of a post thread. I still think mine is beautiful, which honestly just makes the situation even more frustrating.


Now if you will excuse me I have a therapy appointment to make. Lol

I would love to hear one story of a couple where first there were problems in the bedroom, then the husband went "out" to providers, and finally a shrink was brought in to analyze the couple and send them back to bliss at home.  

-CG

I will probably think differently of this in the morning...but...most of these guys are not the one's that put sex on the back burner...At least my S.O. will own that. She wont do anything to solve it, but she does recognize that she is the one that made the choice.

At some point, the hubby was not a bad lover...at some point the wifey could yell out "a little to the left!" and "that's the spot"...life would be good for all...

IDK about the rest of you, but in my life...lack of sex is just about lack of sex...

blaming other people for your actions which in this case is whatever the fk most guys claim is the 'reason' for being here. If your wife MAKES you cheat, she must be the devil and have you possessed. Get an Exorcist lol. Someone asking you to do them a favor and you doing it, is not the same thing as saying, "I cheat because my wife is a bitch." Gee, I could say I am a hooker because my parents did not pay my bills for the last 6 years...sounds just as stupid does it not?

If you are saying someone else's actions affect YOUR own behavior, you are in fact a codependent unable to make your own damn decisions and take responsibility for them. It's blame shifting, which is immature and rather elementary for grown adults.

You are comparing Apples (the sacrifices you make for the one you love) to Oranges (blaming another person for how you feel and act). Just thought I would clear that up, because I am in total agreement with the first.

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Sober...I am the second guy...Right now, I have had a few cocktails today, so you be the judge...lol

The OP however has his panties all twisted up for...well, whatever reason. Was an SO called out by name? Does the thread below contains harsh, direct insults???

And now Johnny Boys are here debating about how respectful they are or perceive themselves to be to their S.O...

I'm sorry to say this, but unless I see specifics like a turd shaped birth mark on her face, pit stains, or summer teeth...to me its all humorous generalizations or common use bitching that most of us can relate to. Nobody here knows me...and I don't know them. I will certainly never meet their S.O. (or at least that's my story for now...lol) I find it hard to view a quick witted crack as disrespectful.

Many guys are neither self-entitled assholes nor at the end of their rope by your definitions but rather somewhere in between. Many still have sex with their wives but nowhere near as much as they'd like. The older women get, the less interested they are in sex so many men are stuck in relationships where they love their wives but aren't getting what they need to be happy. I wouldn't call that being at the end of their rope but based on marriage vows, I'd say that every one of us would be considered a self-entitled asshole by our SO's but not by the hookers we see. As sex workers, you see the situation as gray where the SO and the law sees black and white.

Let's face it, we're all deluding ourselves. We know what we are and we know it's wrong and yet we still do it. I wonder how many hookers quit this business and end up finding themselves in the role of the SO being cheated on later in life. If you were being cheated on by your SO, would you have the same reaction that civvie women do? Divorce the bastard and take half of everything he owns? Or would you be more tolerant knowing what you know from having been in this business?

But WHY is she refusing sex?
In my mind, a cheater is a cheater is a cheater and they are all bad. No exceptions. If my bf refuses me sex does that mean I get to cheat on him too?
But...why is he refusing me sex?

Narrow minded thought process...

Respect is earned...and even traded for in most circumstances.

I will speak for the masses when I say, if the S.O.'s that get poked at on this board wanted respect, then they should stop treating their partner like shit. Most of us are nothing more than the person that reaches the stuff on the top shelf and mows the lawn once a week.

I am sure that there are hobbyists who cheat just because they like something new and shiny...good for them, they do what they do. Most of us are hear because we are ridiculed at home. So instead of causing WWIII, its often better to just crack a few jokes with some buddies...or in this case anon acquaintances that can relate.

I lost my ability to be a gentleman to my wife years ago...it does not mean that I do not have it in me. Hell, if I were a real asshole, like you all assume us to be, I would have been a member here years ago. I should have made the plunge a long long time ago.

What I would assume...were I a provider...is that the rest of you have something to hide, and are sneaking around on an otherwise undeserving lady. But since assumptions are the mother of all fuck ups...its probably best not to make such broad sweeping generalizations.

It's the captain Morgans talking. There are plenty of justifiable reasons to do the hobby, just like there are plenty of justifiable reasons to chat on a poon board. Well I'm certainly not going to sit here and say that everything that everybody says on this board is justifiable, the original poster painted a large swaths of guys with a big brush. I find it funny that he would pick and choose what would be socially acceptable. There are some guys on here that just need to vent it's their therapy.

I don't disagree with his premise , that some of its even out of line. But somebody here needs to play devils advocate. Having a conversation about respect is a laughable premise on this board. I'm sure some of the significant others don't deserve to be ridiculed, but that's not really Zangari's call. Moreover, I'm still trying to figure out exactly what was posted recently that got his panties in a bunch. Maybe my skin is thicker, but I haven't seen anything that I would consider out of line in the last few weeks.

I hate to send you off into the world jaded, you should discover it for yourself. But, my friend...all of this can and probably will happen to you. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news during the holiday's...

Now what are you doing on a FK board on a Saturday night. Enjoy your life...go hang with your friends before they get married and become boring...lol

Allow these brain-dead comprehension-challenged dolts to spread their tangents lol

A little overly dramatic, but I understand your point.

This board however is FFFFAAAARRRRR from public humiliation. Even for the guy a few threads down. You could do it on Facebook....you could do it to her family...her co-workers...friends...etc etc etc.

I know most of these guys are totally full of shit, and that their S.O.'s might be great people...but wtf do I know? I take it at face value, because too much of it sounds so familiar. This is their chosen therapy. Even if misdirected, its what they use to heal themselves.

The moral threshold isn't about piling on, its about (first person) me saying to another attached guy, that his actions are in some way less socially acceptable then mine. That I respect my wife...but not he his. Putting aside guys that are here because their S.O.'s have physical issues, or even condone this type of stuff...leaving the rest of us that are in fact, completely disrespecting our respective family units. That one guys does it from a place of anger and resentment, that he just can't shake, not matter how many girls he has seen...well, thats not for me to judge. And if someone throws his S.O. under the bus looking for some empathy, sympathy or advise...well I will oblige him if I can relate or just in general have anything to offer.

I would say that a majority are here because their current civvie life is less than desirable. Some can communicate that with class...others drool on the keyboard. You may not have an appreciation for that...I do.

First of all, why would you assume we are all cheating on our SOs.  I'm not.  Neither are people like scoed.
Second, if no one knows who she is, how is she being humiliated on a fuck board?  This place is anonymous, or did you not realize that?
Third, why does public humiliation (which didn't happen anyway, but never mind) mean that it's then OK to beat her?  This is what's called a "straw man" argument.  Take a fallacious premise and destroy it, in order to avoid the real issue.  Nice work on that part.
Last, how does saying something anonymously about your SO on a fuck board mean there's no point to any other moral standards?
So much for your "underlying logic" because you don't have any.  I must assume you think more clearly in your "real" life.  Because if you don't you are probably going to spend your days living in a refrigerator carton or in a van, down by the river.

No.  Actually, you don't.  Fucking incoherent loser.  Leave. Now. You have proven yourself Too Stupid To Talk To.  TSTTT!

My hangover indicates that I have to own this. Well played sir...well played.

First of all, I did read the post and did not think it had the level of information in it to rise to "publicly" humiliating anyone.  Not to mention that thinking she'd ever see it requires quite a stretch.
Also interesting that you fail to respond to the rest of my post.  So I assume you agree with it.  Thanks.

Not being able to leave a relationship usually has nothing to do with giving up 1/2...for most guys, child support is not an issue (but visitation sure is)...now that our relationship is "awful" we come here and whine...well shit on me sweetie, explain why my wife was bitching about me from the word go? Why did she marry me if I suck so bad??? Why the fuck is it always the man's fault???

I don't berate my wife. In 18 years, we have only ever had one "discussion" that got to a point of elevated tones. We are very civil to each other. We laugh, we talk, we joke...etc. We just don't have sex. In my case there is a third party commitment in this household that would create a logistical nightmare. I am not upset enough, nor will I ever be, to damage a third party over our problems by leaving. That person didn't ask for it.

As I said before, I was efforting to play a little "Devil's Advocate". I don't think that it is so bad to come on here and look for a little common empathy from some anon's. Maybe the next time you see the cattle call into the woman's room, where they go and chat it up locker room style about their dates...you might want to reconsider your thought process. Because there it isn't anonymous...there, everyone knows everyone...That is something that guys don't do, and something I believe is the height of disrespect.