Well, I guess it had to happen sooner or later.

I just got robbed by a provider.
let me describe what happened so that maybe this won't be repeated:

I was on a dating service called lava life (323-782-4200) and started talking to this girl Stacy. Her thing basically was she wants to hook up with someone and once you talk to her she wants some help with her tuition ($$). She was supposed to come by last night but then chickened out and left before coming to my apartment claiming she just started doing this and she got nervous...
Today she called me back apologizing and promising she make it up to me. Being a suker with a good heart I said ok. (She tried to get more money which I told her no...)
This time she came to my place. She looked very sweet and pretty: white girl, early twenties about 5.4, c cups nice body, redish hair, blue eyes. I was very happy to see her. So then she asks if she can take a shower, I say sure then she asks if she can have the money now so I point her to the envelop. She goes in the bathroom runs the shower and comes out wrapped in a towel. Now she asks me to take a shower because she's such a hygiene freak, I had just taken one prior to her arrival but I thought what the heck. I left the door open because somehow I felt weird, needles to say by the time I got out she, the $$  and my towel where gone and my front door was open.
FUCK!
I first thought maybe she freaked again but then realized that when she came out of the shower wrapped in the towel she only had her pants and shirt in her hand not her bra and panties telling me this was planned.

I felt like running after her but was afraid maybe she had some goon waiting. I checked if anything else was gone or my tires were slashed but everything else was ok. So I felt lucky that she didn't let anybody else in. I could be dead right now...

Of course going to the police is out so I feel extremely violated. She did that shy innocent girl routine very well.
Man, Evil does come in many faces...

Hope this is a warning for all of you, watch out!!!
I'm sure she'll get hers because she got more than lucky that I am a non violant person the next guy might not be so forgiven.

So here I am, $$ less, feeling violated, not knowing if she comes back to ripp off my place since she's seen what I got and still horny as hell...

The one time I don't use a provider that has been reviewed on TER...

Well, again watch out and I hope she'll go to hell

I'm out

The moral of the story is...

...don't turn your back on a provider if she is the type who insists on being paid the moment she walks in the door. This reminds me of the only time a woman tried to rip me off: She took the money, then said, "OK, you know a lot of the escort services have been getting busted lately, and what we've decided to do is have our customers sign a contract saying that nothing illegal happened during our encounter. I forgot the contract, let me go back to the car and get it." Well, folks, I'm trusting, even a bit gullible, but not even I was gonna fall for that one. From there she tried to upsell me, acted all huffy about what kind of girl I thought she was, etc. She returned my money save for $50 (fair enough I guess) and stalked out. I've had better luck than that ever since.

I'm very sorry about your experience, but you sound a bit gullible.

These datelines are something else.  We have lava life and one called quest (678) 222-2222.  There are a lot of good providers charging incredibly low prices; some amateurs driving the price of cfs to $50 or $40 and cbj and bbbj to $40 and $25 a shot.  You may not want to invite these types to your home as they typically need money for some reason.  Also, keep an eye on those wallets (at least until you at least get to know them through a few visits) most advantageous sir, most advantageous!

Joey

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get a friend, someone you trust and set her up. Let her pull the same stunt to the friend, but this time, you are waiting at the door when she runs out. It might teach her a lesson.

Sometimes things like that is the worth the price of admission.

Sorry to hear about that! I would never ever steal from anyone..(FYI)

Shaye

and that sums it up in a nutshell.  That a lady prefers to be paid before hand does not mean a thing.  There isn't any reason for a lady to leave once she gets there.  If she does, then that is a clear sign of rip off and on first meetings, there isn't any excuse to leave a lady alone unless of course she is well reviewed and her reputation speaks for herself.

Homework Homework Homework  gents.....it isn't a cheap lesson to learn!  And cheap in most cases means you get what you pay for and those rare gems I hate to say are not worth the garbage you have to go through to get to them.

Lauren

Two major red flags should have gone up in your head.

(1) Approach any kind of "service" or "agency" and the women involved with them with TOTAL distrust

(2) She insisted on her money "Up-Front".  The money should never leave your hands till your ejaculate leaves your penis.
(unless of course the lady is a highly rated, TER reviewed independent)

 Sorry you got "Jacked".

   Cm.

i've read elsewhere that one recommended method in dealing with ripoffs (B&S artists or just horrid sessions you wish you could walk away from) is to essentially SCARE the atrocious party (or parties!) into yielding/running/f**king-off or just coming clean

i believe one suggestion i came across in dealing with a suspected ripoff artist -- but you need some physical stature to pull this off -- is to say: "i just wanted to let you know that you seem very nice and all but to warn you that the last person that f**ked with me ended up in the ER with their jaw wired shut, drinking through a tube!" (or some variants thereof)

supposedly what will happen subsequently (in theory) is that she will immediately re-evaluate her nefarious plans to rob you, come up with some excuse (and/or escalate the argument) and then promptly leave/run-off (and not even ask for cab fare!)


now it's been argued that such intimidating scare-tactics (or the mere threat of force) are "wrong" ... ok ... whatever ... but i do ask myself why is it that what she's doing is OK and that guys are just supposed to "take it like a man" and move on (and be ripped off by yet another!)

our (non-hobby) society has taught us (i hope) that one should always treat women tenderly or delicately (with "kid gloves", etc) even when *they* are the transgressor. but somehow, in this hobby, this simple matter of decorum has been twisted and taken advantage of by criminal providers (and their cronies). this societal rule has resulted in the all-too-common story of guys just trying to be "nice", backing down or (worse) playing along with some loathsome criminal's treacherous script and just hoping that "maybe she won't rip ME off!"  [sigh]


just some thoughts, i've taken no such preventive/punitive actions ever and hope not to in the future.

I did something just as careless.  I was in a hotel, and had made arrangements for a local agency to send over a playmate.  I gave her the gift, and she explained that her driver -- her girlfriend -- was out in the hall.  The provider said she'd just step out into the hall for a moment, and be right back.

Well, she stepped out into the hall...and she came right back.  But for that minute of so after the door to my room closed, it occured to me that I'd exercised better judgement in the past.  

Like that time in third grade, when I ate a dead frog for a quarter.

Thanks for all the encouraging words.
It still blows me away that 1) I was that stupid and lucky at the same time!!! and 2) that a pretty and obviously smart girl like that would do something that eventually will get her in the hospital or morgue.
I do feel like setting her up and teaching her a lesson, but like so many victims I just want to move on and forget this ever happened (well, also learn my lesson...).
She will get hers and I'm sure it won't be good, it's just not going to be from me.

Now that I think about it, I might have swallowed a quarter on a bet, and won Tommy Miller's dead frog.

I totally agree. If you're getting scammed and ripped off, then all tools at your disposal should be used. Up to and including whatever physical action you deem necessary. Just realize there are consequences to those actions, but more importantly, the scammer will realize that as well.

Never, ever, do outcall to your residence.

She and her agency should be warned big time!