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completely perplexed
Jack_Inhoff 2116 reads
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I am completely perplexed. In the small, rural community in which I live, one of the young, town hotties has been with a local dude for a long time. They're not married...but they're definitely together.  It is well known, and has even come from the hot babe herself that this dude doesn't make much money (he's a bartender at one of the joints in town). He is is fat, gets drunk a lot, and doesn't exercise.  The babe herself told me that she works, not one, not two, but THREE jobs to support him!  They just recently broke up, but then a day later, they were back together.  When I asked how and why they got back together, she just said they've been with each other for a really long time.  

Now, I don't know what to think about this. I guess I gotta hand it to this dude. He puts me to shame. He's a fat slob who doesn't make much money, and gets to fuck a very hot babe for free...and she works her ass off to support HIM!  What a lucky bastard!  And here I am, occasionally paying escorts $300 to $400 an hour.  What a fool I am compared to this guy!  

Again, I don't know what to think.  Either this guy must have unbelievable game to get with this woman despite his physical state and lack of money....or it could be that this babe is really, really stupid.

Anyway, what does everyone else think?  Am I thinking reasonably here?

Oh, and I know this is the general discussion board, so I expect to be insulted.  Keep in mind that I already admitted that compared to this guy, I'm pretty pathetic.  I have to pay money to fuck a hot babe. He gets to fuck one for free.

TheHoundOfCullin 9 Reviews 1256 reads
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Is exactly why you can't get laid in the civie world. :(
Stop watching other people.
Concern yourself with your own circle..
Which may mean lowering your standards if you are gross

WW1974 1275 reads
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Some girls don't feel worthy, pretty, or able to do better, and as a result they don't have high expectations. Many end up stuck with (or even marrying) the first guy who makes them feel worth anything.

Perhaps she didn't have a dad, or had a bad relationship with the one she had.  

No matter the cause, it's quite possible she doesn't value herself and is accepting of less than she deserves.

Or maybe he's just a really great guy and money is not as big an issue to her (?) - unlikely but possible.

I recommend seeing if you can get in her sights. Maybe be nice to her, maybe even befriend her, and next time she leaves him maybe you'll be the friend she turns to for a shoulder to cry on. Careful with likely toxic rebound relationships, and careful with the possibility they get back together (again) and he ends up coming after you. It could happen!

Last point: Dads have a REAL responsibility to their daughters to set the bar high for men in their lives. If you have a daughter, make her feel like the princess she is so she doesn't look for that affirmation elsewhere.

SuperLuv 26 Reviews 1267 reads
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If you can only get her take an I.Q. test; I would bet her score would not be very high.  If not that, she probably has a good heart and pity that fat guy you talked about.

JohnyComeAlready 729 reads
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to care about who is fucking who... and why.

Dave76015 38 Reviews 925 reads
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So you post under an alias.  
Then you say he is a fat, drunken POS and you feel you are worse than he is.
She could be mental in a small town.  It happens.  Are you a part of the shallow gene pool of the neighborhood?

Go to the gym.  Ride a stationary bike.  You have a job.  Get slightly in shape and go for it.

Jack_Inhoff 1088 reads
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The reason I post under and alias is pretty simple.  Call me paranoid, but I don't trust people in this community, and I don't want anyone knowing anything more than they should about me.  I don't see why it's a big deal that I'm posting under an alias.  If I was using an alias to talk shit to and threaten people on the boards and through PMs, then that's a problem. However, I do none of these things, and I go out of my way to be pretty nice to people on here. In fact, I'm too nice...bordering on mangina. LOL!  

Anyway, criticize me all you want. I probably deserve it.  But using an alias, especially in this situation, doesn't make me any more or less of a douchebag.  
Posted By: Dave76015
So you post under an alias.  
 Then you say he is a fat, drunken POS and you feel you are worse than he is.  
 She could be mental in a small town.  It happens.  Are you a part of the shallow gene pool of the neighborhood?  
   
 Go to the gym.  Ride a stationary bike.  You have a job.  Get slightly in shape and go for it.

Dave76015 38 Reviews 1006 reads
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There are a lot of jacked up posters here.  As an experienced mangina, I understand what you are saying.  

No matter what, the crux of the biscuit applies: Do what you feel is right. Run with it and best of luck to you

WickedBrut 27 Reviews 878 reads
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Joseph Merrick had no luck at all with most of the hotties of his day, the actress Madge Kendal might have been an exception after his brand of ugliness became socially acceptable. For most of his life his deformity was too jarring to the sensibilities of others in society. Any us of can see ourselves becoming fat, and therefore we might find it unattractive, but, IMO, we take the view; well, there but for fortune go you or me.

I think that's basically what the Village Venus in your town has done. Once the two got to know each other, however that happened, they no longer appraiser each other in terms of appearance--or even behavior or success at providing--but more on terms such as fidelity to their relationship, companionship, comfort level, and such. The hottie wants to avoid a breakup, maybe for reasons regarding social standing, but quite possibly because she feels she would end up totally alone without him and that the conditions of her life would change so drastically that she has no idea of what life would be without him.

Some forms of ugliness are much more palatable than others. And indeed a relationship where person A accepts person B in spite of obvious flaws, as long as the social order they're in find Person B acceptable, this relationship can make it difficult for Person A to leave it, because it would seem like a rejection of the flawed party because of his flaws.

So the hottie has trapped herself in a relationship with a slob, and leaving him would tell the world that she is rejecting him simply because he's a slob, and that would appear very heartless.

There are men on this board who see themselves in ball-and-chain marriages that they sneak around on while they complain of their wives' shortcomings. Leaving the marriage would have financial ramifications, but it would only be a monetary price to pay for a life with more fulfilling promise. Of course, that's a big unknown, and they might fail at realizing that possible promise, so they use the hobby to get a piece of life and let the rest of it rot in an unhappy relationship.

That sounds cowardly, put like that, and I'm sure the men in question, like the town hottie, feel they are wisely sacrificing their overall happiness for the noble purpose of maintaining an existing relationship.

That's how I see it. I think it's a serious problem.

WW1974 1173 reads
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Corythehuman 12 Reviews 1158 reads
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Maybe, if she is the dream girl you think she is, she has a deeper needs then other women. She has moved beyond the shallow judgment of a mate by thier attractivness and wealth. Maybe it is the way he listens to her, responds to what she needs emotionally, makes her laugh etc. you said he is lazy but you haven't said anything else about his personality, apperantly that carries a lot of weight for her (no pun intended). By the way I am imagining jaba the hut by the way you talk, I am assuming he isn't just a little chubby. Just flat out morbidly obese, can't open his eyes all the way fat. Because you are finding out money and the perfect body doesn't make you happy and don't get the girl of your dreams.

anonymousfun 6 Reviews 1065 reads
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May be the fat slob gets drunk and passes out. May be the hotties doesn’t like to fuck? May be that is the reason she stays with him.

Who knows? It is strange world indeed.

AwGoFuckYourself 872 reads
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C'mon, man! Get your freak on and say "asshole."  You can do it!  I know you can! LMAO

mrfisher 111 Reviews 826 reads
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It makes one do strange things, and believe me, I should know.

In any case, if they are reasonably happy, leave them be.

There's enough fucked up stuff in the world to pick on.

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russbbj 89 Reviews 865 reads
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who can dilute, captivate and occupy other people's minds. Adolph Hitler is a classic example on a very large scale. It has always perplexed me, how one person could convince millions of people to commit the horrific acts that the Nazi regime and think that it's ok. When you see and hear of situations such as you describe it seems that it could be a similar situation on a much smaller scale with obviously different motivations. Take for instance pimps, they convince seeming innocent young women to have sex with random men and give all the money to the pimp. I think that most times drugs are involved, but initially it's the mind control.

It seems to me that this loser has some kind of mind control over her, he may have even convinced her that she's ugly and that he's the only man that will find her attractive and therefore he's the only man that will have her. It's really very sad that there are people who are that weak minded, and even worse that there are predators that do this to other people, but it's reality.

Corythehuman 12 Reviews 874 reads
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Oil, money and cocaine make for strange bed mates.

Tobi Telford See my TER Reviews 975 reads
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Posted By: Jack_Inhoff
When I asked how and why they got back together, she just said they've been with each other for a really long time.
Sometimes you're with someone for so long that the misery of that relationship is preferable to the scary uncertainty of being single. At that point, your lives are so intertwined that to end the relationship is terrifying. It's not like a clean break after a handful of dates, you have shared property, mutual friends, places that you both frequent, things you do together, etc. The prospect of moving on means a whole lot of discomfort in the foreseeable future. Of course, as humans, we like to take the path of least resistance. That usually means sticking around in a shitty relationship, knowing that it isn't working, but holding on to the familiarity. I've been there more times than I care to admit.

Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 931 reads
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There could be a number of reasons.  

Did you know guys guilt girls into dating them, and girls actually date guys feeling they're doing something charitable? (I'm not saying this is why, but really, because someone is dating a hot girl doesn't make them any better than you.)

I've been in two relationships where I stayed with them simply because I didn't know how to break up with them. One I just dated because I thought I was 'supposed to', and the other was a power manipulator and gave the guilt trip before I ever even thought of breaking up.

Over time, you get comfortable with the person. (Never lasted more than a few months with me, but I can see why some stay.)

Also, the sense of belonging to someone can be comforting to some. If they date a hot guy, they may not like dealing with the threat of another girl sweeping him off his feet. Feeling like you're the hottest person someone can get can mean security.  

Hell, maybe she made him fat so she could keep him lol. I've actually known a dude who would mad at his girlfriend for working out. He literally said to me that he wanted her to gain weight so she would repulse other guys. I definitely confronted that issue, but there's really nothing you can do.

Another reason is that - she could be lying, and the guy very well may be supporting her. I've supported a guy before, (didn't last long,) and I found out he told everyone he was supporting me. Hell to the mother effin' no he wasn't. I paid all the bills, threw him money, and if he threw me 20 bucks to give him a ride somewhere, he suddenly thought paying his way one time meant he was supporting me. People lie, even to themselves, and because they believe themselves, can be very convincing. Maybe she pays for groceries, so she thinks she supports him lol.

Another reason - she may just like overweight guys, or big guys, because she feels safe with them and they feel like warm, comfy pillows at night.

He also may be really good at eating pussy. ;)


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Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 1205 reads
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You are who you hang out with. If you're constantly around someone who gives these subliminal mind fuck messages about who you are, how you look, etc. you begin to take them on. For some, that's all they're hearing, because the guy is all she is hanging out with.

Friends, family, and even strangers get upset with the girl for hanging out with 'that guy' all the time, but the guy convinces her not to trust anyone or anything, and isolates her by putting thoughts in her mind that the people in her life are not 'safe'. She then clings to the guy.

He becomes the only one she trusts, which means his words speak volumes over even her own. BUT, that doesn't mean that this is how not so hot guys (in the physical) get the girls. It's just one way a jacked up person keeps another - hopefully not the norm.
 
Posted By: russbbj
initially it's the mind control.  
   
 It seems to me that this loser has some kind of mind control over her, he may have even convinced her that she's ugly and that he's the only man that will find her attractive and therefore he's the only man that will have her. It's really very sad that there are people who are that weak minded, and even worse that there are predators that do this to other people, but it's reality.


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2labman 26 Reviews 720 reads
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For those of you who remember Monty Python...

GaGambler 763 reads
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How could "ugly as crab shit" ever be used in a "good" way?

Oh BTW I agree about the cowardly husbands too scared to start over. I faced that crossroads many years ago and I am exceedingly happy that I chose to buy my freedom and start over.

That's why divorce is so expensive, because "it's worth it" lol

skarphedin 1005 reads
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Posted By: 2labman
For those of you who remember Monty Python...

russbbj 89 Reviews 915 reads
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I agree, and it distresses me that there are people that do that to others, it makes me think how insecure the perpetrator is that they feel the need to do this sort of thing just to get someone to be with them. I'm also very saddened that there are people that submit to these insecure pieces of crap. It's a real shame. I .ever had it easy in life, but I guess I owe a debt of gratitude to my parents for making me the independent secure person that I turned out to be, so I guess because of them I did have it easy in that respect.

So Courtney, I would suspect that the women you describe can't be reached by those friends and loved ones that can see the loser for all he is, huh?

People sure do suck sometimes.

russbbj 89 Reviews 755 reads
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"I'd rather be alone for the right reasons, than be with someone for the wrong reasons". It made a lot of sense to me, I'm happy being alone, but admittedly because I have you fine women to be not alone with from time to time.

russbbj 89 Reviews 757 reads
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Everyone has to be good at something, and that's my thing. I used to say that I wish my tongue was long enough that I cod lick my eyebrows and more than one woman has told me my tongue is just fine they way it is.  

But as with you lovely ladies that truly enjoy Sucking cock, if you enjoy doing something it's likely that you'll be darn good at it.

WickedBrut 27 Reviews 895 reads
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The thing that we have to keep in mind is that the cowardly aspect is very much in the way I phrased it. I mentioned nothing about children in the marriage, health issues with either party, and for some the extended family united by the couple. Every situation has unique circumstances, and the reason for some not reclaiming their freedom from a bondage to disappointment might have more of a complicated story than any hypothetical scenario either of us could concoct. Freedom is priceless--being free to choose the disciplines and circumstances that will comprise your social contract. Then the fulfillment of that contract has to somehow be dealt with before being free to choose again. You know what I'm talking about.

For the more difficult question, how crab shit can be ugly in a good way, we might consider Jackson Pollack's visions, or crab shit's resemblance to Swedish pastry. One presents us with a dissonant glimpse of existential chaos, and the other wets our appetite for sugary convections on soft, chewy bread. Mmmmmm... I'm getting hungry!

LucasHood 631 reads
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Give it a rest. Please.  

Posted By: RodTidweLL
I'm still taking notes on what women want! When you say girls like oral you have to be more specific.  
   
 Oh btw my response to your post that I missed.

Dr Who revived 679 reads
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They're heavy duty and will last longer than the others you've been using

WickedBrut 27 Reviews 905 reads
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You got this part right!

"You are who you hang out with. If you're constantly around someone who gives these subliminal mind fuck messages about who you are, how you look, etc. you begin to take them on. For some, that's all they're hearing, because the guy is all she is hanging out with."

And in a small town, the effect of a toxic person can be extremely intense.

Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 1026 reads
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they get her to a place where she feels guilty hanging out with her family and friends. It's a hassle, and all of the explaining and maneuvering her way to spending time with those people becomes such a hassle that she gives up.

A simple "I'm going to go to my niece's birthday party" or "I'm going out with the girls" turns into "You're just using that as an excuse to go out with another guy. Are you cheating on me?" Stuff like that. A simple conversation or going anywhere without him around turns into hours of proving to him that she's not cheating on him. (God forbid she ever question him, however.)

If / when she decides to go, she gets stressful texts from him the entire time, and can't sit down for dinner without the cell phone ringing non stop, and texts, saying "If you don't call me now I'm breaking up with you. It's an emergency. We need to talk about us."

I've witnessed it right across the table from me with a really good friend a few years back. It's extremely embarrassing, and he made sure she didn't enjoy a minute with anyone else.

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