You know I have been programed by the newbie board, and instructions they thow at me.
I have been brainwashed into avoding agencies. Anyone who has read that board knows if you are new, to stick with well reviewed, well established, independent providers. I have kept that habit.
I still stick by my reviews, but... Am I missing out on something?
Who are the best/most respected agencies?
I see the ads. The women are gorgeous.

If HoC was given strict instructions from the Newbie board NOT to contact agency gals...he should listen to those johnnie boys.  But since he's seen some gal pals of mine from NYC I would suggest he PM (yea tightwad...get your damn VIP or send them an email cheapass  LOL)  someone like Lina for a reference.

But the two that BIB pointed out are excellent agencies and won't disappoint...or so I hear  

But be careful HoC...you may disappoint some of your mentors on the Newb board  LOL

I spend a lot of time on the newbie board and I have never seen them saying to stay away from agencies. I don't know where you read that. There are good agencies and bad agencies, and there are good independents and bad independents. The advice to newbies is to "stick to reputable and reviewed ladies." I don't recall the part where it says "independents" only. With agencies the advice is the same, to stick to reputable and reviewed agencies. Mind you this is advice for newbies. A lot of experienced guys enjoy TOFTT, and someone has to, or new ladies would never get reviews!

The downside of agencies that people do bring up is when agencies get busted, it gets 100s of "johnnie boys" worried about their info getting out. Happened in Arizona a few years ago, and more recently in DC. Another issue is that in some areas agencies are notoriously scams. In Las Vegas for instanc, there are tons of agencies, almost all of them being bait and switch and upsellers, or outright robs. Howeve, HHPC (mentioned by BiB) and LV100 proof have great reputations there. NY, DC, and Atlanta all have a bunch of good agencies.

So using agencies or independents is a personal choice, but I disagree with your newbie brainwashing comment.

Now if you are looking for specific suggestions, you should ask on a regional board or the ISO board, not the general board.



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I have been fed a lot of mis information on this board that only confirmed that shit to me.
I mean the gd board. I just don't want to get busted. Central booking sucks.
That fear definitely has something to do with how I choose a date.
The newbie board has led me that way. I'm starting to think it is bullshit.

Now you are beginning to understand "grasshopper"

More important than most of this public drivel is to back channel.  And probably better using email..just saying!!

Or listen to those paranoid neurotic johnnie boys and be afraid of your own shadow  

And the hooker advice (aside from LR...but she's not a hooker that BS's...so she pisses off the rest of the hooker community) is nothing short of self serving.  DON'T buy that BS...it's for the weenie boys.  

And you know who they are!!

With all of the stories of human trafficking, getting busted, and all of that shit.
I may have already had it in my head. That ruins it for me, and I could swear I read on the newbie board.
To stick with independents to get away from that.
Thanks storm. Good advice.

Backchannel never paid out for me.
Everyone I contacted did not respond.
Only onece was I asked for info.
I answered honestly. But always wondered who I just told a lot of incriminating info to.

Your post made me get all serious! I thought I was back on the newbie board answering questions. Now let's get back to the regularly scheduled comedy, trainwrecks, and dick size threads.

Back channel is the best...THE BEST way to verify a gal.  Reviews are garbage in many cases...too many lovelorn johnnie boys writing novellas and self-serving garbage looking for "favors".

I always replied to you...always.  And I typically will for anyone who PM's looking for real info.  Now if it's just a "brown envelope" with NO history anywhere...nope.  But you have a long board history...so I don't know which guys you contacted...but I find it odd that NO ONE replied.

And you also should know NEVER EVER EVER give out a TER handle in conjunction with an inquiry (or session in progress  LOL).  Get on a service that is a verification site...and NEVER EVER give out your personal real info.  You never know when a gal will go BSC on you  LOL

Come on there HoC...you know the drills here.

if you think you want to try the PS route. The Luxury Companion is considered the best at what they do. Adonia will take care of you. But it doesn't come cheap.

That is you 3.
I have been told many are similar to me. In the fact that they let vip expire.
But in some glitch. Still have the active envelope.

For a newbie, it can be hard to get info via backchannel. A lot of guys ignore PMs from someone with no reviews and no posting history. HOC has been around now, but if he is talking about when he first started, I can see that. Then there is also the fact that many do not have VIP and can't reply to PMs (as he is well aware of currently )

When I said "brown envelope" I am referring to a handle with NO reviews...no board presence (anywhere).  And I've gotten a few of those PM's....not interested in a handle like that and sharing anything.  Could be another hooker (egads...who would have thunk)...or just some alias set up for covert operations.

So you need to up your VIP...PM guys in your area that you want to communicate with and exchange hobby email addys.  That way the VIP is not as important later on.

Either post your email addy here or get your VIP and shoot me a PM with that and we can go there to chat.

All members have the envelope by their username. I don't believe there is any way to tell whether a member is VIP or basic. You can send a PM to anyone. The only difference is a basic member can't read his PMs, (as you know, by the stack in your inbox), so if you send a PM and get no response, you never know if the receiver is ignoring you or if he can't read it. The names with no envelopes are aliases, and you can PM an alias. (You just can't shortcut it by clicking on an envelope). Only VIPs can have aliases so if there us an alias, then that's one way you can tell someone is VIP.

By the way, why don't you find a simple problem report on a profile and submit it, then you get two free VIP days and you can read your PMs.

OK now I feel like I'm answering on the newbie board again, so to change the subject, "where is the best place to cum?" and "does size really matter?"


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The best place to cum...uh uh I don't know.  Should I start a new thread for this difficult question?

Does size really matter...uh uh I don't know.  Should I start a new thread for this one too?

And how about the old "Ladies....what is the best way to make you cum?".  I think paying her is the correct answer...but we can run that up the flagpole and get those DATY experts opinions  LOL

Posted By: perfectstorm

All members have the envelope by their username. I don't believe there is any way to tell whether a member is VIP or basic. Youcan send a PM to anyone. The only difference is a basic member can't read his PMs (as you know, by the stack in your inbox) so if you send a PM, you never know if the receiver is ignoring you or if he can't read it. The names with no envelopes are aliases, and you can PM an alias. (You just can't shortcut it by clicking on an envelope). Only VIPs can have aliases so if there us an alias, then that's one way you can tell someone is VIP.

By the way, why don'tt you find a simple problem report on a profile and submit it, then you get two free VIP days and you can read your PMs.

OK now I feel like I'm answering on yhe newbie board again, so to change the subject, "where is the best place to cum?" and "does size really matter?"

Aphrodite Companions is outstanding, as are 100 proof and City Girls. I've primarily only seen well reviewed providers. However, the last independant I saw (very well reviewed) stood me up less than an hour from our appointment time. I don't think you'll ever have an agency girl stand you up because they have someone else to answer to. I can say that I've never been stood up by an agency girl.

Yes it's time for some of those threads. It's been at least a couple days, and I forget the correct answers!

are about recent busts and the fact that agencies are a larger target for LE.  There have been some very large agency busts, particularly in DC, and those busts made folks very anti-agency in those regions.  

But I doubt the anti-agency comments are about service or the quality of the actual girls.  




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However, like everything in life, the best stuff isn't the stuff that the public knows about.

Agencies are no different.

The pictures are often the false ones placed in BP of models.  How accurate do you think are the ones they show you on the site. Remember their girls keep only 40-60% of the asking price. Do 10's work for that?

But it could be the same girl w/a little photoshop so try it out and take one for the team.