TER General Board

To clear the air...A question
MajorReno 3353 reads
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I am not a woman,  but it would certainly be worth something to me [$$] to have a recurring client with the following traits:

Perfect hygiene
Known safety and discretion
Punctuality
HWP, presentable appearance
Considerate of the lady's comfort, and boundaries; non-pushy

As opposed to seeing a new unknown client [even with references] , or a returning client lacking in some of the above traits.

Opinions?

hiddenhills 143 Reviews 557 reads
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3 / 134

to your previous question about asking for a discount.

Posted By: MajorReno
I am not a woman,  but it would certainly be worth something to me [$$] to have a recurring client with the following traits:

Perfect hygiene
Known safety and discretion
Punctuality
HWP, presentable appearance
Considerate of the lady's comfort, and boundaries; non-pushy

As opposed to seeing a new unknown client [even with references] , or a returning client lacking in some of the above traits.

Opinions?

MajorReno 506 reads
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4 / 134

Definition: " to employ reason; think in a rational or rationalistic manner"

saturnsky 492 reads
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5 / 134

Mr. Perfect, if you pop in 5 minutes or less and are happy cuddling the rest of the time, I am sure she'd be very happy to chop off some cash. Now that's a great client.

In addition, this is your opinion of you...she might think otherwise.

SinCitySinner 67 Reviews 521 reads
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6 / 134

I always liked to work on academic projects with people who were ex-mil, and when we used to hang out, they always had a good story to share.  They had all the above traits you mentioned plus they weren't afraid of speaking their mind.

Remember one thing... If you don't ask, the answer is almost always a NO.

So stop pussy footing and go ahead and ask her if she wants to give you a discount for being a repeat customer..

tg_baby 550 reads
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7 / 134

Depends completely on her standards, and also how selective she can (afford to) be with her clients. For me...safe and considerate isn't enough, unless I'm broke. Personally, I don't see ANY men who aren't as you describe above...so for me, the biggest deal-breaker for me is if a guy isn't respectful of me or my business/time, or if he makes me feel degraded or devalued. And you NEVER know if you are making a lady feel that way unless you are her. You can think you are the nicest guy in the world, and still do/say something that you feel is in line but she doesn't. You can also feel entitled to a discount/free time while she doesn't agree. So in other words, YMMV. And, those who think they are ideal clients usually aren't (altho any lady you see will humor you on that one).

Dr Who revived 445 reads
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8 / 134

After the festivities...on to a great dinner.

And of course he didn't pay for anyone but himself.

Posted By: saturnsky
Mr. Perfect, if you pop in 5 minutes or less and are happy cuddling the rest of the time, I am sure she'd be very happy to chop off some cash. Now that's a great client.

In addition, this is your opinion of you...she might think otherwise.
-- Modified on 2/10/2013 7:13:58 PM

saturnsky 387 reads
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Posted By: tg_baby
Depends completely on her standards, and also how selective she can (afford to) be with her clients. For me...safe and considerate isn't enough, unless I'm broke. Personally, I don't see ANY men who aren't as you describe above...so for me, the biggest deal-breaker for me is if a guy isn't respectful of me or my business/time, or if he makes me feel degraded or devalued. And you NEVER know if you are making a lady feel that way unless you are her. You can think you are the nicest guy in the world, and still do/say something that you feel is in line but she doesn't. You can also feel entitled to a discount/free time while she doesn't agree. So in other words, YMMV. And, those who think they are ideal clients usually aren't (altho any lady you see will humor you on that one).

Dr Who revived 377 reads
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10 / 134

You don't need to rationalize any of this drivel.  Offer the hooker whatever you want...if she's short on cash she'll take you up on it.  Just understand that she may feel like a whore selling herself short.

Just saying.

Have you seen George around?

Posted By: MajorReno
I am not a woman,  but it would certainly be worth something to me [$$] to have a recurring client with the following traits:

Perfect hygiene
Known safety and discretion
Punctuality
HWP, presentable appearance
Considerate of the lady's comfort, and boundaries; non-pushy

As opposed to seeing a new unknown client [even with references] , or a returning client lacking in some of the above traits.

Opinions?

Dr Who revived 402 reads
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11 / 134

At least you always say that's what you want instead of dick.

saturnsky 329 reads
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Dr Who revived 316 reads
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16 / 134

Tough gig this hooking...but even tougher for a "faux hooker"  LOL

bluepillman 318 reads
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17 / 134

Tg said the list of things the OP said were things she expected of every client. You agreed with her. One of those things was that he was a recurring client in addition to being clean, prompt, etc. it was the recurring part that made him different than a one time client which gave rise to his question about a discount.

bluepillman 299 reads
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tg_baby 316 reads
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20 / 134

You can be a recurring pain in the ass, and that's even worse than a once-and-done, lol. I have a few of those (who are nice, respectful, hygienic, etc., but nobody's perfect). But if you are truly an ideal client and are also a regular, then yes, you WILL be treated differently than a one-and-done who is just as nice. If there's a lot that I have to tolerate, then NO.

But he can't determine for himself whether he's an ideal client or not. That's for her. If she think so, he'll know by the way she treats him.

It's like Lauryn Hill says..."Respect is JUST the minimum." Whether you're a recurring client or not. No girl (who can afford not to) is going to kiss anybody's ass for that.

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London Rayne See my TER Reviews 418 reads
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21 / 134

What makes you so certain that every provider wants to see the same client over and over? This is not a marriage. When I do offer incentives for a guy to keep seeing me, we BOTH benefit from it in some way. Your discount only benefits you. Oh goodie....she gets to keep seeing you again, but for less than her normal rate. Joy.

Dr Who revived 350 reads
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22 / 134

Sheesh...you and the other brown envelopes have a peculiar sense of reality  LOL

bluepillman 356 reads
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23 / 134

He is asking if he has all those good traits AND he is recurring, would that be more valuable than a guy who had all of those attributes and WASN'T recurring or didn't have all the attributes he describes. For most women, the answer is absolutely yes. Maybe not for you, maybe you have never given a discount to an exceptional client who is a regular and that is your biz, but most men get those discounts IF and I want to stress IF what he is saying is accurate in the ladies mind as well as the OP's.

bluepillman 525 reads
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24 / 134

Now I also know you don't give a shit about majority opinion but most women kill for a regular client and income they can count on. I am not necessarily talking about super high end women, but If some guy is willing to give a girl $1200/mo and she discounts him down to $1000, that can be her rent for her and her child for the month from ONE guy. That is a very valuable client to most women.

tg_baby 373 reads
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25 / 134

The point I was trying to make is that just being a regular AND exhibiting the bare minimum of good behavior (as the OP describes it) doesn't earn anybody brownie points. Being a regular and AMAZING, yes, but what the OP describes isn't amazing, it's the bare minimum.

It's when someone is truly a pleasure to be with, who is 100% a gentleman (not just 'on time' and 'not too pushy')...THEN I would rather see him than a new client. But if I have one repeating client who is 'fine' but repeatedly annoys me, and another new client who seems AMAZING...then guess what? I'll see the new client. Here are two concrete examples of why:

Client 1: Repeat, loyal client. Smart, interesting, very clean, punctual, reliable. Not too pushy, but slightly rough in session (nothing objectionable). Didn't ever want to pay for more than 1 hour of my time (but wanted to stay longer). So, since he was so loyal, I gave up a possible 2-hour date with a NEW client to see him for 1 hour. Guess what? He shorted me $150 for the first time that night (told me he forgot my rate). Damn, I wished I'd seen that new client.

Client 2: Same thing. Repeat, nice, interesting, even HOT. Told me he wanted to take me to Newport RI at some point. Great! But I gave up a 2-hour w/a new client to have what I thought was a two-hour date w/dinner OTC. Guess what? He paid me for ONE hour, even though our regular meeting had always been 2 hours. AND kept me overtime BCD. WTF?

So sometimes I'd rather see a new client over an existing one. I don't see that many people. So the people I see, I want to be 100% amazing. So if I have 50% nice but iffy and 50% amazing, I am going to try to replace one of the iffy clients with an amazing one.

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London Rayne See my TER Reviews 455 reads
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It depends on the regular. If I have to choose between a cheap fk, or replacing him with a guy who pays my full rate, guess which one I am going to pick? I like regulars yes...but to assume every provider feels that way, is crazy. Yes, I do what you suggested rather often, but not "just because" it's a regular. I would rather fk 4 guys who are all great, than one guaranteed who I really don't like being with, but did it only for the monthly lol. Hey...just keeping it real. I can't keep a guy around long and that goes for a SD too...he has to be extra gifted in many areas for me to see him every damn week.

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Dr Who revived 420 reads
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27 / 134

But it sure seems to be the consensus at nearly ALL levels here.

It also seems that those regulars tend to only stick around for 6 months or so...but some go on for years as well.

And if a hooker doesn't like the johnnie boy...she'll suck (pun intended) it up till another new regular shows up to take his place.

Oh...and they all seem to discount the arrangements.  Well, maybe NOT all...but certainly the majority.  We could take a poll and verify this...assuming the hookers would tell the truth for a change  LOL

And no counting the brown envelope faux hookers...they don't count!  I think one or two aren't even women...hmmmm!!!

Posted By: London Rayne
What makes you so certain that every provider wants to see the same client over and over? This is not a marriage. When I do offer incentives for a guy to keep seeing me, we BOTH benefit from it in some way. Your discount only benefits you. Oh goodie....she gets to keep seeing you again, but for less than her normal rate. Joy.

tg_baby 298 reads
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London Rayne See my TER Reviews 425 reads
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29 / 134

have to ASK for shit from me...it will be OFFERED! Sounds like he may think more highly of himself than she does, but time will tell. It's funny how so many of you think providers give a shit whether you see them again or not...many don't really care AT ALL. Not all providers are here to make x amount per week. They are here to play and make money, as they so choose, and then they take a month off lol. Gosh.

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 379 reads
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30 / 134

I turn regular clients into sugar daddies, yes...but it's give and take. It is not simply me offering a discount not to get some benefit myself, and a guy saying he is going to see me once a week at a lower rate for that SAME service, is not exactly a benefit in my book. He can be easily replaced with the next guy who might be hotter, richer, and better in bed, plus pays the full rate and might even book 2 hours vs. 1. Just like hookers come and go, and free up some room for new entrants, so do clients. There will always be a "next" in this equation. I will only hold on to a guy, if I really find him interesting and it benefits me.

Dr Who revived 379 reads
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31 / 134

Your two examples are complete nonsense.  Unless you care to finish the story?

So..did "client" #1 pay your rate when you told him that he shorted you?  

And what about "client" # 2...did you hit him up for the 2 hour rates?

And these are YOUR great clients that you claim to so carefully screen.

I call BULLSHIT on all of that.

FWIW...If a long term client of mine decides to short me..I call them on it.  And if they don't want to pay up...they're certainly not a client going forward.  That part we can agree on.  But let's not BS the board with the drivel that YOU are so "picky".  You're not...and I trust you still use the "mirror test" to qualify a john.  You do know what the "mirror test" is...right?

Just saying!

Posted By: tg_baby
The point I was trying to make is that just being a regular AND exhibiting the bare minimum of good behavior (as the OP describes it) doesn't earn anybody brownie points. Being a regular and AMAZING, yes, but what the OP describes isn't amazing, it's the bare minimum.

It's when someone is truly a pleasure to be with, who is 100% a gentleman (not just 'on time' and 'not too pushy')...THEN I would rather see him than a new client. But if I have one repeating client who is 'fine' but repeatedly annoys me, and another new client who seems AMAZING...then guess what? I'll see the new client. Here are two concrete examples of why:

Client 1: Repeat, loyal client. Smart, interesting, very clean, punctual, reliable. Not too pushy, but slightly rough in session (nothing objectionable). Didn't ever want to pay for more than 1 hour of my time (but wanted to stay longer). So, since he was so loyal, I gave up a possible 2-hour date with a NEW client to see him for 1 hour. Guess what? He shorted me $150 for the first time that night (told me he forgot my rate). Damn, I wished I'd seen that new client.

Client 2: Same thing. Repeat, nice, interesting, even HOT. Told me he wanted to take me to Newport RI at some point. Great! But I gave up a 2-hour w/a new client to have what I thought was a two-hour date w/dinner OTC. Guess what? He paid me for ONE hour, even though our regular meeting had always been 2 hours. AND kept me overtime BCD. WTF?

So sometimes I'd rather see a new client over an existing one. I don't see that many people. So the people I see, I want to be 100% amazing. So if I have 50% nice but iffy and 50% amazing, I am going to try to replace one of the iffy clients with an amazing one.

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Dr Who revived 390 reads
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So long johnnie wants to see hooker...the LTA is a winner.  BUT...rarely does the hooker bail on the arrangement.  Sure seems that when johnnie needs a new pussy to play with, that LTA is over...immediately.  So hooker Jane needs to continuously have a new boy in the pipeline.

BTW...most of these arrangements are NOT the one hour gigs...just saying  :D

Posted By: London Rayne
I turn regular clients into sugar daddies, yes...but it's give and take. It is not simply me offering a discount not to get some benefit myself, and a guy saying he is going to see me once a week at a lower rate for that SAME service, is not exactly a benefit in my book. He can be easily replaced with the next guy who might be hotter, richer, and better in bed, plus pays the full rate and might even book 2 hours vs. 1. Just like hookers come and go, and free up some room for new entrants, so do clients. There will always be a "next" in this equation. I will only hold on to a guy, if I really find him interesting and it benefits me.

tg_baby 403 reads
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Both were when I was newly independent.

Client 1, I NEVER saw again. I did mention the shortage to him, he apologized and gave the 'forgot your rate' excuse. He may have paid me back, who knows. I never saw him again and so didn't give him a chance to. Why would a girl  deal w/someone like that when she could be seeing other clients who would never even think of shorting her?

Client 2 calls every so often. I think the last time, I offended him bc he asked about 'dinner and drinks' and I had to actually make sure he wanted a 'paid' date and not a free one. Well, he had screwed me before and I was not driving to see him before I made sure I'd be compensated for that time. But he cancelled a few hours later, never heard from him again. These days, I'd probably decline altogether rather than have to make sure we were on the same page, so to speak.

Not BS, that stuff happens, especially when you're new. They had great refs, were nice guys generally. They never did anything bad to me until that moment, either of them.

I don't actually know what is a mirror test...so what is it?

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 358 reads
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You are correct...they are not "one hour" gigs lol. When I REALLY like a guy, I am doing much more time for much less pay, but he is also doing other things for me. I won't elaborate, but I think you know what I mean, and it's not just getting me off. I can do that in 4 min. whilst watching redtube, and I don't have to shave my legs or put on make up for it.

Dr Who revived 392 reads
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When you place a mirror under your nose...what happens to the mirror?

Check...if it fogs up you take them on as a client.

We've all been there at some point.  Hopefully we all learned as well  LOL

BTW..The only two people who would have known if john # 1 paid you...would be YOU and the john.  

Just saying  :D

Posted By: tg_baby
Both were when I was newly independent.

Client 1, I NEVER saw again. I did mention the shortage to him, he apologized and gave the 'forgot your rate' excuse. He may have paid me back, who knows. I never saw him again and so didn't give him a chance to. Why would a girl  deal w/someone like that when she could be seeing other clients who would never even think of shorting her?

Client 2 calls every so often. I think the last time, I offended him bc he asked about 'dinner and drinks' and I had to actually make sure he wanted a 'paid' date and not a free one. Well, he had screwed me before and I was not driving to see him before I made sure I'd be compensated for that time. But he cancelled a few hours later, never heard from him again. These days, I'd probably decline altogether rather than have to make sure we were on the same page, so to speak.

Not BS, that stuff happens, especially when you're new. They had great refs, were nice guys generally. They never did anything bad to me until that moment, either of them.

I don't actually know what is a mirror test...so what is it?

MajorReno 369 reads
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36 / 134

Perhaps all your 10 scores have gone to your head, or perhaps you see more out of town clients in New Orleans.
In any event, like Bluepillman, I feel your opinions are atypical.
I wish more ladies would respond.

inicky46 61 Reviews 361 reads
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You don't get extra points for being on time, clean, pleasant and with a full envelope.  You just get to see her again.  That's it.  Sorry, major.  Perhaps this is why you never rose in rank.

Posted By: MajorReno
I am not a woman,  but it would certainly be worth something to me [$$] to have a recurring client with the following traits:

Perfect hygiene
Known safety and discretion
Punctuality
HWP, presentable appearance
Considerate of the lady's comfort, and boundaries; non-pushy

As opposed to seeing a new unknown client [even with references] , or a returning client lacking in some of the above traits.

Opinions?

bluepillman 350 reads
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38 / 134

If he is all those things AND he is a regular, many women cherish that kinda client. I don't think it is wrong of him to seek a special arrangement with her if that is the case, do you nick?

tg_baby 346 reads
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39 / 134

trying to think up a metaphorical equivalent of the 'mirror test' for this world, but can't quite in my case. You see, they both had refs. I met another girl w/one of them and she is highly regarded in my area, so it's not just me who sees them. The other one was referred highly by one of the best-known providers in my area. They just thought they could get away w/something that one time, and I guess they were right. Sure, they are persona non grata w/me now, but they probably have a similar attitude toward me: That uppity bitch wants more money, dammit, I'll just see this other girl who charges nothing and is twice as hot. Fuck her!!

If this were PURE business, we'd favor clients who met the bare minimum standards (as these guys did many times before they screwed me over). But it's not, pride is involved as well as chemistry. So regulars get NO CREDIT unless they make my day whenever I see their name in my inbox and I trust them completely.

inicky46 61 Reviews 323 reads
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I have my own "special relationships" with several ladies.  But I did not suggest them.  The ladies did. You don't get to ask for such things.  They either come to you or they don't.  Asking for them is bad form.

OldTraveler 40 Reviews 315 reads
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on a specific lady I would think.  You want to see her regularly, and you are letting a little bit of ego get in the way of your logic.

As others have said, if you are not clean and safe there is likely no repeat visit at any rate.  But a discount is a lot more that that.  Some (not common I'd guess, but it exists) ladies--contrary to what we might think as guys--don't like "regulars".  Part of what keeps them going is the adrenlin rush of meeting new guys.

For some ladies--especially those who do this as a second job--they will only see guys who they have some connection with.  Others will see you again, but not at a discount.

But the biggest impediment:  the guy trying to rush things for discounts, or try to ask for too much of a discount, or being to pushy about the time/plece/etc.

A friend was just commenting to me about this type situation:  a guy she was willing to see regularly, but in exchange he was asking for a 75% discount (wanting to pay her 2 hr rate for overnights).  THAT much of a discount isn't likely to last.  (And before folks get upset, she never provided any identifying info).

bluepillman 351 reads
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I dont see the harm in him asking for a special relationship if he is an exceptional client. Its a free market business transaction. He can ask. She can counter offer or refuse. He can stay with her or move to girl #2.
I think you might be forgetting we are the client and she the "business". He has every right to ask but no right to expect. Just my 2 cents.

saturnsky 305 reads
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43 / 134

Is all about the dinero...and not afraid to admit it.

MajorReno 163 reads
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44 / 134

about ladies in a Real City.

bluepillman 256 reads
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45 / 134

The ladies dont advertise it. They dont shout it from the rooftops when it happens. They keep their mouths shut and us guys, the smart ones, know to keep quiet as well. The OP isnt pulling a "stunt". Many women find an arrangement quite lucrative and are very happy with it. I have had one for 8 years. She gets the benefit of guranteed income she can count on, I get a discount. Its a win/win. We get along great, I treat her well, as she does me, and she would have ended it years ago if it didnt work for her. Overwhelming number of women either have these relationships or want them badly. Believe me.

saturnsky 260 reads
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I take money from lonely sex starved men for limited work , a hot girlfriend who actually wants me and for free too? And  "faux hooking" is such an easy gig...I just avoid the high maintenance babies err hobbyists....lol.

So, how hot is your wife? Maybe we'd be a better match?

saturnsky 300 reads
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48 / 134

my Jewish ex girlfriend...neurotic, a complete drama queen, whiney and sucked in bed...lol..;)

bluepillman 162 reads
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It matters how she views it. And since you have no idea her financial situation, you cant determine if he meets the definition of a "special" relationship. He can ask and she can say no, right? Whats the problem? He's the customer.

MajorReno 246 reads
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I expressed the question with respect, without self-aggrandizement, and in a purely economic sense: I really liked being with her, and  wish to see her as often as feasible.

The answer: " You know, a few days ago, I  had decided to reduce my rate back to 250".  [for everyone].

bluepillman 123 reads
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bluepillman 153 reads
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52 / 134

Stop doing what you are accusing the OP of doing.

bluepillman 164 reads
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Then you admitted it was indeed a business. Then you misquoted me and blamed semantics. And you jumped on the OP and claimed he showed his "true colors" and you were wrong about that too. Sheez...rough night for ya huh babe? Well its all over. Check out the OP's last post. She dropped her rate. All done now. Nighty night.

WondersOfTheWrld 370 reads
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I do have special clients but I determine if they're special or not & it's not just about the qualities u mention. those are a given or I won't see a guy again. so for specials, well I give them extra time, but that's b/c I do it & they don't press for it....nor would they suggest they give me less $$$ to save a measly $50 & make it more difficult for me to pay my bills. I'd take a new client b4 one like that.

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 260 reads
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I admit I am NOT the norm, but you're a bit clueless to sit here and label a woman as "not worth her fee," then expect her to keep seeing you lol. The guys who actually want to keep seeing the same woman, usually do so because they feel she IS worth it. I don't have "that many 10s" either, honey. I have 9 pages of reviews, with many scores, and that's over 5 years. But, you do bring up a good point....the guys who give me those 10s, are usually the ones that think I am something better than the next, so why would they not want to keep seeing me?

Yes, I do see mostly out of town clients and I also used to tour twice a month for two solid years, so keeping a shit load of regulars was not my priority. If I have 4 regulars a month I am happy, but don't let that kid you into thinking I will sacrifice my sanity just for a buck. If that were the case, I would not be a hooker at all and would have only one guy taking care of me. I prefer to be independent.

You honestly think women who offer only blow and gos give a shit about repeat business? I doubt it. They want you in, out, and onto the next so they can skip over all the bs. I am not saying many providers don't appreciate repeat business, but take a look around...you've got women from 100 bucks to 10k here, so it's not around the board.

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 162 reads
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she was not getting the amount of business she needed. I've never ran a damn "special" if my volume was where I wanted it to be, nor has any woman I know of lol. We might run pre-booking specials so we know if a trip is worth it, but you don't see many low volume hookers taking money off their minimum, unless they are not working as much as they would like. If I do offer a special, it's usually dinner off the clock AFTER, I already have my damn fee. Economics, or should I say, Equilibrium 101.

It sounds like this girl is in an area where maybe not that many clients are calling her, and she is forced to cater to the market. The OP certainly knows that, and took advantage of that fact. I wouldn't expect any more from a hobbyist like him. He can't afford a 10, so he has to see what he calls a 6.5, at a discount. Ooops.

If he REALLY liked her, much less gave a damn about her family or her bills, he would not be worried about a mere 50 bucks. He would realize that every discount she gives, forces her to fk another guy that week, and one she might not care to be with. My SD certainly realizes that about me, and gives me MORE money, all things considered.

It might not be cash in my hand, but he pays bills for me, fixes things that I would have to pay someone else to do, takes away some of the pressures I have to deal with by just being there. Those things are worth more than money IMO. He certainly would never put me in a position to have to use my personal home to ahem...entertain in. THAT is what a GREAT client would do...not the shit I've been reading in this thread.

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London Rayne See my TER Reviews 274 reads
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Dream on. The truly great ones are always given special treatment, but I don't see much greatness in this thread. There is a reason my regulars never have to 'ask' for a discount....I usually "make them  an offer they can't refuse" bwahhahaa.

Another thing, that was not mentioned...what guarantee does this girl have of x amount of visits if he is not paying UPFRONT? When I have an arrangement with a guy, it's a MONTHLY fee, not an hourly one, meaning he pays upfront! What happens if the OP gets sick one week and can't see her? Is he going to make that fee up to her? I highly doubt it, which is why I don't deal with these types of discounts. It only benefits him, and not really her if he can't keep his "promised" appointments.

simontheman 8 Reviews 218 reads
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60 / 134

I agree with BPM, and I have had similar experiences.
I try to show the lady a good time, not just from a sexual stand point btw, because I like women and I am a gentleman. Many of the ladies respond to that very quickly and are appreciative. I can usually tell within a few minutes if we get along and if I will want to repeat. Most times the repeat date ends up being longer and more relaxed. I don't ask or expect a discount, but most times my repeat dates go way over time. But, if it doesn't happen I don't bitch about it.

harborview 10 Reviews 252 reads
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when she raises her rates, you get "Grandfathered", when you get old & fat, she'll still see you.  Gals I connect with...  my Favs...  also are the same by definition "Repeats"...  we have learned & respect each others time & boundaries and have some level of comfort with the perdictability of the encounters.

Tobi Telford See my TER Reviews 195 reads
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I'm not sure how you define a "real city," but I'm in a much smaller, Midwestern one and I agree with London 100%. I expect all clients to exhibit the traits you listed in your OP, and I won't see them again if they don't.

Anyway, to answer your original question (and take my opinion for what it's worth, since I'm a newbie provider), I generally do prefer repeat clients to new ones because I like having that comfort already established. Having said that, no matter how clean/nice/whatever he may be, I find haggling to be the ultimate insult. I'm happy to offer very generous discounts to repeat clients, but when someone asks for a discount, I find it to be a sugar-coated way of saying, "You think you're worth $x, but I think you're worth $y. And since I'm so special, you should be happy to see me for $y." For me, that'd be such a turn-off that I'd likely never see him again.

Also, didn't you say you've only seen her once thus far? There's really nothing that would suggest to me that you can be relied on to see her with any sort of regularity. I'd be a lot more empathetic to your case if you had been seeing her 2+ times per month for the past year or something, but from what I've read so far you haven't established any sort of incentive for her to offer you a discount.

I think you're assuming far too much, and I don't think location has any bearing on it.

saturnsky 248 reads
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saturnsky 401 reads
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Sure he can ask but good luck with the answer, it might not be what he thinks he deserves since he certainly feels in his estimation he is an exemplary client..she may feel quite differently. It never hurts to ask...unless you don't like the answer...;), then it's like a slap in the face.

saturnsky 274 reads
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Just because every lady is not jumping in does not mean they feel differently, some might do but more than you seem to think, think like London. I am one of them. The ONLY reason I will discount is if he is easy. I am not about to make life more difficult by discounting a guy if it does not benefit me too in some way. Just to have the same guy showing up and me doing the same amount of work for less, is not doing me any favors when I can have a new guy for full price. Regulars that get discounted can sometime turn into the worst clients...they just seem to want more..and them, well we suddenly become unavailable or cut em off cold turkey.

saturnsky 296 reads
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And another thing, if a discount is given and he suddenly wants this that and the other on top of it, buh bye buster. Not all regulars are great. Some can be a gigantic PITA.

saturnsky 134 reads
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You think we all or the vast majority want them? When did you take the time to interview a decent portion of the ladies who gave you honest answers? Myself and a couple of other are just giving our opinions. We are not speaking for those ladies we know nothing about. Believe me!

MajorReno 327 reads
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Perhaps my request prompted her reply.
Now, I suspect she would have had the same response if I had asked a month ago.
Perhaps it is easier for a UTR lady to charge what the traffic will bear.

I am also somewhat shocked to see the attitude of many of the posters.

Editorial comment: It is in our best interest to try to discourage over-inflated pricing.












































Dr Who revived 292 reads
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That some of the hookers and a few eunuch's screamed "don't insult her" bullshit.

Forget that nonsense...as you did.  Ask the obvious...if she's not "busy" she'll play the game.

But don't assume that just because YOU don't think the hooker is worth XXX some other mamby pamby won't pay her going rate.  And then you'll know as she won't return your emails.

Then time to find another one...and there's clearly NO shortage out there!

bluepillman 279 reads
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We all cant say its a "business" and then not act like its...well, a business! She has every right to be offended if she wants, or to counter offer or to say no and put the ball back in his court. She folded across the board price wise, like many businesses do in bad times. I dont know her situation and why she dropped her prices but his asking her for a "special relationship" is well within the bounds of any "business" relationship.

bluepillman 255 reads
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Really I dont. Dont women make business decisions all the time in this biz? Where to advertise, what to charge, what to offer, etc. Then why cant she make a business decision on what this guy offers? If it sucks, she says no. If its in her best interest, she says yes. But to somehow say he shouldnt approach her like that, thats BULL. Its a business. Something a lot of the ladies here, and guys actually, are forgetting.

saturnsky 262 reads
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And guys should be able to ask for a discount...just don't show how much of an ass you are when you don't like the answer and then say something churlish because you didn't get what you thought you deserved.

And to the ladies, no point in getting all bent out of shape...if you don't like his offer, just say no and move on or counter with your very own set of "discounts" commensurate with his $ figure.

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saturnsky 243 reads
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To dump deadwood and to discourage price fixing. It's only overinflated in your mind with this particular lady or is it more of a personal crusade of yours to lower most escorts prices to suit your wallet? Yeah good luck with that.

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bluepillman 259 reads
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saturnsky 246 reads
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And a few other services...but there is no harm in asking.

WondersOfTheWrld 260 reads
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It doesn't work to take a guy on his word that he'll visit every week of she discounts the sessions. He'll end up not keeping his side of the bargin. Been there, done that.

It's more effective to have him prepay at the beginning of the month if he wants a discount for visiting x amount of times.

But she.can do what she wants, I just know from experience that it never works out.

bluepillman 223 reads
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And how do you now what HE will do? I have kept my end of the bargain for a full 7 years. She loves our arrangement, tells me so often, and she would have ended it if she didnt. So saying it NEVER works out is incorrect and tons of guys on this board, and a lot of ladies too if they were being honest, would tell you you are wrong.

MagicMedic 5 Reviews 213 reads
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That's because you haven't met me yet. Let's revisit that in aboutas year what do you say?

MM

Dr Who revived 299 reads
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Asking for a discount probably isn't in your best interest.

Rather YOU may want to up your tips to your hairdresser.

Posted By: saturnsky
And a few other services...but there is no harm in asking.

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 298 reads
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I don't give a flying fk what HE or YOU does with the hookers you see...let's just keep it simple. You don't have a problem with it, BFD! You're not the one in this situation! If any guy ever approached me for a discount, I would have a nice reply for him and his chump change...I don't fkin need it! A guy's word does not mean shit to me when most of you are already breaking your word to someone else...oh shit, damn lol. If and when I ever entertain a LTR, it's because he pays UPFRONT, not each time. I am really sick as shit of men trying to tell women how we should run our business. Don't like it...too bad. Stick with what you do have...thanks. There is a reason some women have to sell out and be manipulated....I don't really need to elaborate.

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London Rayne See my TER Reviews 250 reads
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LMAO, and if he thinks 300 bucks is "over inflated" he needs to find a crack head on BP. What a cheap, douche. The only reason she had to lower her rates is because she needs the money, and stupid fks like him, should be glad there are women who have to do that. I would not shit on him for 3k...ok, well maybe.

WondersOfTheWrld 260 reads
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saturnsky 289 reads
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Your wife's reaction to blowing you...maybe she'd prefer the colonoscopy instead ..lol

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 201 reads
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Sorry, but a 'GREAT' client, would not be so determined to get a cheap fk. Just saying. He feels she is only worth $225, let him go find a hooker dumb enough to see his cheap ass for that rate. Maybe one who does not have to work out of her own home and let fktards know where she lives. "Heavy screening" my ass. It takes ONE asshole who feels he is entitled, to out your address. Next....


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saturnsky 243 reads
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It's nothing against you but my sexual preference. It's like saying you'd love sucking cock if you just sucked the right one. I have sucked hundreds and not one was the right one, again no offense, I am certain you are a wonderful lover to a lady that clicks with you and that is heterosexual.

saturnsky 254 reads
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The OP is far from a great client...except in his mind.

Dr Who revived 240 reads
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Your last johnnie boy commented on giving you five huge orgasms.

Posted By: saturnsky
Your wife's reaction to blowing you...maybe she'd prefer the colonoscopy instead ..lol

TheHoundOfCullin 9 Reviews 249 reads
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Give us all a break, and fuck already?
Well... Fuck after you beat the shit out of one another.
Geez.. I'm the novice?
You guys read like little kids with a crush! LMAO! :D
Don't deny it..

saturnsky 323 reads
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I have never faked five, way too much work and my form diminishes after the first two...;)

saturnsky 228 reads
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We detest each other. We have to play somewhat within bounds or we'd get banned or at the very least the posts pulled.

MagicMedic 5 Reviews 235 reads
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I have not forgotten your preference, just joking with you. Although mine could be the one you just never know.

MM

TheHoundOfCullin 9 Reviews 288 reads
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Is that too low?
I drink lots of beer though, and I guarantee I can blast someone better than you!

Sorry, Had to be done.

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 255 reads
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No way man...I eat a shit load of corn, peanuts, and peppers before taking a box of laxatives. I would probably do that for free, for many here lol.

Dr Who revived 213 reads
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You wouldn't want to destroy those pathetic mamby pamby boys that see you.

They actually may think you're sincere.

But we both know better.

Posted By: saturnsky
I have never faked five, way too much work and my form diminishes after the first two...;)

TheHoundOfCullin 9 Reviews 243 reads
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From the outside looking in...
It really doesn't look that way.
He picks on you.. You give him attention...

Reminds me of when I would steal the girls toys so they would come after me.
Girls that liked me would give chase.
That was Kindergarden by the way.

bluepillman 285 reads
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that she offered him a discount for being such a great client and all this non-sense is a freak show just for our entertainment? And what if CPA goes home to her at night and says "Gee, darling, we really pulled the wool over those dumb bastards today on TER, didnt we?" and she retorts, "Yes, my love. Now let me get your robe, slippers and fav cigar, before I serve you dinner naked." "Awwww..." he answers. "You're the best hooker I ever had." She looks deeply into his eyes and says, "and your my one and only johnny boy!"

TheHoundOfCullin 9 Reviews 210 reads
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I forgot you are from the Big Easy.
For me it was "Huge Shit Come Out Easy"
So I can see I am out of my league.
Fucking Popeyes Mashed Potatoes...
I'll never be the same.

saturnsky 235 reads
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..arrogant and high maintenance. Also, who gives a turtles patoot if I am insincere or not as long as they have great time and I get paid. And you think every lady you've been with was for real? Now who's deluded...a faux trick..I like that...;). I have never denied acting well. This whole thing is an illusion...why do you think the "E" in GFE = Expereince and not GFR = Reality...hmmmm?

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saturnsky 196 reads
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saturnsky 350 reads
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Kindergarten for tricks and faux hookers.

saturnsky 242 reads
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TheHoundOfCullin 9 Reviews 275 reads
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I have been nothing but honest. Let you all chop at me...
I have no problem with it..  It's funny!
I have learned so much since I have been here.
Watching you, and CPA.. Is comical.

Calm your storm...
I think deep inside you two want to fuck each other. :)

-- Modified on 2/11/2013 7:18:09 PM

saturnsky 257 reads
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At least we have one thing in common, we both love the ladies and are both slaves (happily so) to the pussy.

Dr Who revived 316 reads
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Being bound and gagged...and hopping around a room.

Ever tried to fake that sweet cheeks?

Posted By: saturnsky
..arrogant and high maintenance. Also, who gives a turtles patoot if I am insincere or not as long as they have great time and I get paid. And you think every lady you've been with was for real? Now who's deluded...a faux trick..I like that...;). I have never denied acting well. This whole thing is an illusion...why do you think the "E" in GFE = Expereince and not GFR = Reality...hmmmm?

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saturnsky 248 reads
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There is no storm here, just good natured insults between consenting adults. I think he is as repulsed by me as I am by him, but if you all want to think down that line of the two of us "doing it", then have fun...that will most definitely be a fantasy.

Dr Who revived 275 reads
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But I'd put ole SS in a hogtie and tickle the shit out of her.  At least till she has her five big O's. LOL

Or maybe she'd rather do the colonoscopy scene?

Posted By: TheHoundOfCullin
I have been nothing but honest. Let you all chop at me...
I have no problem with it..  It's funny!
I have learned so much since I have been here.
Watching you, and CPA.. Is comical.

Calm your storm...
I think deep inside you two want to fuck each other. :)

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saturnsky 212 reads
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Don't I have to meet with someone first to get trusted up like a Thanksgiving turkey? And lets not and say we did....you can attach clothes pins to an effigy and get a good chuckle out of that if you'd like.

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Dr Who revived 270 reads
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As long as you promise not to just lay there like a dead fish.  

I'm Ok with a colonoscopy scene too....but you will be awake for it!

Posted By: saturnsky
There is no storm here, just good natured insults between consenting adults. I think he is as repulsed by me as I am by him, but if you all want to think down that line of the two of us "doing it", then have fun...that will most definitely be a fantasy.

saturnsky 231 reads
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MagicMedic 5 Reviews 247 reads
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I'm no slave to the pussy. It just owns me,  tells me what to do, and beats me. I do give a good licken though.

MM

saturnsky 260 reads
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If we combine the two and I did not prep well, and you tickled me, there just might be shit involved...told you it could get icky. And I still have fake 5 O's??? Crap, pun intended, I thought I could get out of that.

Dr Who revived 241 reads
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Guess you are having second thoughts now.

Oh well...plenty of others who actually like fucking.

You can just stick to the old men who sleep while you read them something like a Harlequin romance novel.

Sounds like a fun time ... Yawn

Posted By: saturnsky
Don't I have to meet with someone first to get trusted up like a Thanksgiving turkey? And lets not and say we did....you can attach clothes pins to an effigy and get a good chuckle out of that if you'd like.

-- Modified on 2/11/2013 3:26:54 PM

TheHoundOfCullin 9 Reviews 266 reads
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The fact you both became upset just goes to show I may have a point.
It is okay to laugh at yourself...

I like you guys. Don't get all wussie on me... :D

TheHoundOfCullin 9 Reviews 239 reads
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We can call it Dr. Phil.
Bwahforthelovingblahhahahahahahahahahahaha!

Dr Who revived 267 reads
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And sometimes it just happens  LOL

Posted By: saturnsky
If we combine the two and I did not prep well, and you tickled me, there just might be shit involved...told you it could get icky. And I still have fake 5 O's??? Crap, pun intended, I thought I could get out of that.

Dr Who revived 201 reads
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You should know better than that  LOL

Now I won't say that my sweet little cupcake SS doesn't get a tad offended...but I doubt she takes any of this with any seriousness.

She's learned...or is at least learning  :D

Posted By: TheHoundOfCullin
The fact you both became upset just goes to show I may have a point.
It is okay to laugh at yourself...

I like you guys. Don't get all wussie on me... :D

Dr Who revived 241 reads
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And now you and your comrades are practicing your session positions for those "tricks".

Some of you hookers have this routine down pat!

WondersOfTheWrld 276 reads
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TheHoundOfCullin 9 Reviews 231 reads
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I am calling you "FishDick" from now on....

I ain't taking your side FishDick

Dr Who revived 250 reads
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And as far as seeing "dick"...seems like you saw your fair share yesterday!

Posted By: TheHoundOfCullin
I am calling you "FishDick" from now on....

I ain't taking your side FishDick

saturnsky 226 reads
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And yes, I just love that milky eyed stare I give them. Such an energy saver doing the "fish". Hey he wants a nut, he does all the work, I provide the warm masturbation tool and take a little nap at the same time...how is that so bad?.

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saturnsky 229 reads
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I did have to hit the gym and then have dinner and catch up on some other work..yep one of those fookers who has a real job too...flipping burgers at White Castle...;)

saturnsky 244 reads
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And those great old geezers at the home....where else can a lady get $$$$ reading to a bunch of sleepy old dudes? Shit it sure beats having some hairy sweaty guy pumping away at you when you can barely get a breath in on the out stroke. I consider myself really lucky.

OldTraveler 40 Reviews 264 reads
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reading his posts as a collection--this thread and the one below--he seems to be upset that a particular lady didn't think his offer was what she was looking for; he makes it sound like he deserves a discount.

elusive1two 274 reads
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Good point wonders. and I'm willing to bet you even TIP your hair stylist, waiter/waitress , bartender etc. You guys trip me out. If the service is good and you keep going back, THEN YOU SHOULD TIP HER. Discount.....what a joke.

TheHoundOfCullin 9 Reviews 267 reads
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You got me there.
LMAO!

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