I often encourage people to cut a provider a little slack if they no show (the first time anyway).
When someone is going to publically trash someone they better be sure they are right, and if all you know is that "we had a 6pm appointment and she didn't show", there could be lots of reasons you might not be aware of for the no show and the failure to cancel properly.
Now on occasion when that does happen to me, doesnt mean I am not pissed off about it, but I figure the least I can do is assume that there might be something I wasnt aware of that could be mitigating.
Doesnt mean you allow someone to continue to take advantage of your good nature. One no show is one thing, more often is quite another. So when considering the damage a public row can do to someones reputation, I find it often is wise to be generous on a first offense.
Yesterday, while home in LV, I get a call from a nice guy I saw once. Says come to LA and I'll see you. I say, great...how about I reward your sweetness with $200 off my going hourly. I'm in a great mood when he calls so I figure, heck, why not. I'll still have $150 left after expenses and maybe I can do a booking Sat morning. He says Game. Absolutely. So I drive 272 miles there, $20 on gas there, $6 bag lunch, get a voice mail it's a no go...$13 dinner, $20 gas home, 272 miles. Luckily the hotel was cancellable. An entire day lost and an accident on the 134 going back to LV.
I will never again take an appointment without a deposit unless the gent has been a long time regular. This guy in question is under 30ish.
And to top it off... have an LA cell area code to make it convenient, cost effective and discrete for my gent friends in LA...the guy doesn't even have the balls to talk to me direct....he leaves a voicemail rather than tell me direct that he cannot make it. (I was not on the line when he called.)
Then he emails me telling me he's got some tickets to a game I can have TONIGHT. At this point, I'm more concerned about the $60 cash money I'm in the hole and a full day lost that I could have spent doing something of value. And then I ask myself, how can he get them to me tonight, if he's not able to make it tonight?
I'm sorry but this is inexcusable. Now you guys wonder why:
we:
1. ask how old you are
2. require deposit and/or reference
3. cease offering specials
Old men. Deposits. Rates by the book. Live and learn.
HB
PS> and don't tell me I'm bitching, I have a right to bitch. I left at 8am. It is now 12 midnight. Now I know why guys post on this board immediately after bad "date"and they sound like they are pissy. What is the point of all this? Lack of respect for the time of other people?
The Rip Off section should be modified or a Private/Public Providers Section should be created so that the providers can post of these NO-Show clients, bad experiences with clients and/or harrasing clients so that the other ladies are aware of them and take note IMHO.
The Good Doctor
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Hello,
I am new here, and I feel very bad for what happened to you. One thing I will say though, is that not all people under 30 are evil, maybe some are just more naive.
I personally would have sent you some change to make up for the fact I cancelled on an outcall last minute like that.
Helj
I drove a long way, wasted my valuable time and you didn't even call with any explanation.
I was pissed. I too am a professional, and my play time is precious.
As a result I will never call again. I could not take the chance of it happening again.
Please consider this when you handle your bookings in the future.
To quote you:
What is the point of all this? Lack of respect for the time of other
people?
I have NEVER no showed anyone. If I cannot make a booking or something comes up in an emergency, I call. I also offer $100 off for your trouble on possible future booking if the cancellation was on my end. That has always been my policy. One booking I actually did for free because I couldn't make it 2x because my son wasn't feeling well. He's a diabetic and at times, I need to be with him on those unexpected low blood sugars and insulin issues but I always call.
I did have a few situations where gents said at an intercom "I have some dope with me." They didn't get any farther than that. Again, turn away policy (which I think is pretty fair and normal).
No drunk
No dope
No explicit remarks at gates and such
No threatening gear/knives, weapons, excessive luggage
No verification, no bookie
Travel lightly, be sober, gentlemanly and verify and I'm game.
HB
Lets see...
I was polite, articulate,made no explict dialog.
The conversation went like:
ME:Hi, I saw your website and I would really like to see you.
We agreed on a time about 3/12 hours later.
HB: What would you like me to wear?
ME: Whatever you like.
I drive quite a way in hell traffic, it took me most of the 3 1/2 hrs.
I arrived at the location in the Burbank area Heather told me to go and called at the appointed time and no answer. ( If you think this is BS I can tell you the exact location).
I called about every 15 minutes feeling more stupid with every call.
After an hour I gave up. I left Burbank and went to the Deja-vu strip club in North Hollywood. I had lots of cash so I got some great lap dances.
I never made it to the "gate" so that wasn't it.
So where did I go wrong?
I have never no showed a gentleman. I'm sure we all have the odd circumstance where phones unplug themselves and then I'm saying, this guy is no showing me. Why didn't you call me back and say "What happened?" Maybe you didn't give me your number and I thought you were a no show.
Odd.
Heather,
You do catch a lot of flack from the guys here, but I just want you to know that you are appreciated at least by some of the rest of us who are fairly quiet. You certainly have the right to protect yourself better in the future from inconsiderate guys like that and the ones under 30 are definitely known to not handle their affairs in the appropriate manner as compared to us "older" guys who know how to treat a lady properly.
My girl always turns down clients who are under 30 because they just are not in her best interests. She says they just want to pound away at her and always are trying for another pop without any concern for how she is feeling at the time.
There are plenty of clients out there so be discerning and don't let the young impulsive types lure you away from your common sense.
That being said, when are you ever going to come down to San Diego? My offer still stands to show you around, especially south of the border if you are interested.
Hang in there....
As a provider I have generally encountered most Caucasian or other men to be more considerate after they are older, or married with the excepton of Asian men. I can only attribute this phenomenon to how these men are raised. So moreso than age, I try to catch the attitude.
Good Luck. Hope we all end up in the best of company without undue ado.
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it up to her by sending her big change via Fedex - she was shocked by the amount. I am older. I value someones time. I don't wish to hurt someone. I don't wish to waste anyones times. Heather's right!
Was I sounding pissy? I didn't mean it that way. I was just looking for a way to get involved in the discussions here and all I had was my first experience. It wasn't a very good one for me or for her as it turns out. She e-mailed me and unloaded pretty good on me, men in general and TER.
We all have a lot to learn about respect, I guess. Let's keep this forum open.
I find this thread very interesting. With the exception of a few people who claim to have had bad personal experiences with Heather, the responders have all agreed with Heather to the point of suggesting a separate board to track no show clients, etc. In the past when posts have been made by clients complaining about providers who have been no shows, most of the responders have advocated cutting the provider all sorts of slack and have been generally against doing a review or putting her name in the post. In my opinion this appears to be a double standard. I think last minute cancellations and no shows are bad news from both the client and provider side. This post has nothing to do with Heather personally. I have never met her.
I often encourage people to cut a provider a little slack if they no show (the first time anyway).
When someone is going to publically trash someone they better be sure they are right, and if all you know is that "we had a 6pm appointment and she didn't show", there could be lots of reasons you might not be aware of for the no show and the failure to cancel properly.
Now on occasion when that does happen to me, doesnt mean I am not pissed off about it, but I figure the least I can do is assume that there might be something I wasnt aware of that could be mitigating.
Doesnt mean you allow someone to continue to take advantage of your good nature. One no show is one thing, more often is quite another. So when considering the damage a public row can do to someones reputation, I find it often is wise to be generous on a first offense.
This situation was only bad because I drove 600 miles which really wore me out. The next day I did not take any bookings so in essence I lost 2 days work.
If he had called to cancel and I was sitting at home in a bubble bath, I would have no issue. A reschedule is generally fine. It was my fault that I did not require a deposit but because I had seen him once before and because he was especially nice, I didn't think twice.
I have gone to great lengths to build a web site that will bring people to my door so I can make a good living doing what I enjoy. Many escorts are spending between $70 and $500 a month on advertising, the goal being to peak interest enough to get people to at least query. So then why would anyone assume I wouldn't want more business. That's like saying that if you are in the printing business, that you are going to start turning away a bright sunny customer walking in the door with a need for business cards, stationary and promotional mugs. Now you might assume my shop is closed if you see the lights off but maybe I'm just having electrical problems.
Galt could easily have any woman on this board. He is objective, open minded and rarely jumps something that doesn't want to be jumped. I am wet in places you can only dream.
HB