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Does common sense come into play here or just push on no matter what?
hbyist+truth=;( 3952 reads
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Had a client last week who after about 2 minutes went straight for the pussy with his digits. Let's just say it was like the Sahara down there because this guy is very unattractive, but very sweet. He is one of those johns who pretty much insists on the lady getting off which naturally is an impossibility for me so out come those acting skills to make this guy happy.
 
So there he is poking away and it is becoming sore and irritated so I gently move his hand to other places in the hopes he will get the hint that when NOT WET, it's irritating. Nope not a chance, back he went digging around, not rough but when you're not wet that is not comfortable.  

Guys, do you keep poking around in the hopes that she will get aroused with your digital ministrations or do you grab a clue and move on to something else  hoping that it might open the flood gates and her pussy will be more receptive to your fingers?  

I think before I see this guy again and it is a weekly deal, I am going to squirt up some lube so it doesn't bother me so much. I just wish he had a clue.  

Ah fuck it, I think I am going to actually tell him to stop and let him know that his tongue feels much better. Even that doesn't do much but at least it won't feel like the other.

common sense is like deodorant ,,, those that need it the most, probably will not use it!
just remember the danger of even a small scratch.

He'll love you for it...and so will you  LOL

Or so I've heard  ;)

I just can't understand why some guys are so fucking clueless. I guess that's why we get the big bucks to deal with that too. Well as far as this one is concerned, he is getting the chat.

Honestly I know I can't tolerate stupid...and that's what so many dudes are when it comes to sex.

And it seems that many gals have little tolerance for that stupidity as well.  So for some I guess $ 200 to deal with it is "big bucks"...while it seems $ 1.8MM isn't enough.

Have you tried sticking a 9" dildo up this dudes ass...sans lube?  Some seem to actually be shown an example.

Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
I just can't understand why some guys are so fucking clueless. I guess that's why we get the big bucks to deal with that too. Well as far as this one is concerned, he is getting the chat.

LucasHood2202 reads

He's unattractive, no skills. Why do you see him?

Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
I just can't understand why some guys are so fucking clueless. I guess that's why we get the big bucks to deal with that too. Well as far as this one is concerned, he is getting the chat.

The money. 95% of my johns are not men I would even bother with in real life. This is a job , I am not looking for a BF. And this is NOT where I come to get mine. I have a couple of great hot and sexy FWB that deal with my needs and desires.  

He is regular money, and a sweet guy. That is why this is a job.

I mean, my fingers get so dry.  When a girl tries to put it in her wet pussy and I'm not aroused,  it just makes my fingers painful.  Do girls have any clue when a guy doesn't want his fingers in there?  :

0603450onThe1805 reads

fingers altogether? I'd like to believe most women are quite sensitive on the 'outside' anyway if touched the right way. No need to jam anything up in there quite honestly. Not effective, at least, not on this chica anyway lol.

Plenty of gals love shit rammed up...some don't however.

Guess you don't  LOL

Posted By: TaylorSteele
fingers altogether? I'd like to believe most women are quite sensitive on the 'outside' anyway if touched the right way. No need to jam anything up in there quite honestly. Not effective, at least, not on this chica anyway lol.

0603450onThe2139 reads

hell no LOL. Not my thing and not how my bod is programmed. Plus, it's not about getting 'me' off anyway. I'm plenty good with focusing on him and not me for the entire session, quite honestly, that's what it's about for me. However, there are many men who are extremely adamant of it being the other way around. Not sure why that is. Either way works for me of course, as long as he listens to what works instead of guessing if he's going to insist on getting me off. I have no problem telling someone what to do and NOT to do. It's my body afterall.

JackDunphy2127 reads

Especially while they are paying your $$$$$ an hour at the time.

Selfish bastards.

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They pick a hooker on what level of boner they get. We get, at times a fucking nightmare. That is why we charge what we do because, you and every other man who is not getting what he wants from the wife, the gf, self service, porn or a civvy comes to us.  

Hookers are good but we don't come complete with a fricking magic wand. Some guys are just so bad and unattractive that nothing, and I mean nothing is going to work. Now we can fake but , wait for it, it's coming, some mongers don't want a fake job, they want a real orgasm. But having nothing to help us along.

What is selfish is expecting a hooker who possibly finds you completely unattractive, expecting her to perform for real when if the tables were turned, you'd run screaming from the room with a limp noodle dick in your hand.  

You are paying to do your thing but if that thing is getting your hooker of, please get a clue as to your level of attractiveness and realize that if you were that shit hot, you would most likely not be paying for it. And that if she doesn't, it is not her fault. She did not get the opportunity to choose someone who she is attracted to.

OR deal with being faked.

JackDunphy2536 reads

I can send you a link if you are in the market.  
   
Look, if a hooker is dealing with a "fucking nightmare" then she should tell the a-hole john to stop or GTFO of hooking. SO tired of hearing so many broads bitch and moan while they reach for that fat envelope.
   
Be thankful some fkin sloob will pay you the fkin money. Lots of people out of work, or didn't you hear there is a bad economy?  
   
Maybe I'll send you a CNN Breaking News alert for your cell phone since you're not up on all the latest news. Got mine just a few hours ago. First quarter GDP at 0.1% sweetie. Btw, that's considered bad. Real bad.  
   
So you have to put up with an orgasm once in awhile. You'll get over it. They are actually quite enjoyable.  
   
Which brings me back to that Hitachi..

Everybody bitches and moans about their job at some point, why is this any different? Oh I know why, it could be you some hooker is bitching and moaning about.  

So next time your job sucks I hope someone says this to you:

"Be thankful some fkin sloob will pay you the fkin money. Lots of people out of work, or didn't you hear there is a bad economy? "

Oh pull your head out of your ass, if I got an orgasm that would be great but the dude is so inept and unattractive a tractor could not pull one out of me.  

Check this out, the one time I said I will take care of it and did, he pouted and got all hurt he couldn't do it for me.

Sometimes there is no winning with you fucks.

I'll agree he sounds like a fucking nightmare.  But you've kept seeing him despite this, so you've really got only yourself to blame.  I assume you're about to cut him off, but you should have done it sooner.  What he's paying you can't possibly be worth it.

GaGambler2003 reads

You can buy an awful lot of self respect for $2,000,000.00 lol

Bitching about some POS client that won't listen....there's a reason why so many gals here have NO fucking chance of ever getting ahead in this world.

Unfortunately I am doubting that h+t could run a hot dog stand successfully.

Those of us in the business world have mastered the art of cutting out the shit customers...on an ongoing basis.  Culling the A's from the C's is easy....maybe a few C's can become B's and so on.

But I haven't met many gals who have any real business skills (or education) that allows them to understand how to achieve success.  Some ask questions and are smart enough to listen...and implement what they need to be successful.

Others just put up the "Don't fucking tell me how to run my business"...unfortunately they leave the "into the ground" part off the end of that sentence.

Posted By: inicky46
I'll agree he sounds like a fucking nightmare.  But you've kept seeing him despite this, so you've really got only yourself to blame.  I assume you're about to cut him off, but you should have done it sooner.  What he's paying you can't possibly be worth it.  

Every hooker puts up with something for the money as does every person in every job at some stage. If we all quit because something or someone pissed us off there would be huge unemployment.

And you know nothing about me other than the shit I carry on with on this board so keep your sanctimonious business crap and your education crap to yourself, it is old, predictable and I thought you of all people would come up with some new shit to impress your boys.

Now how about thrilling me with some fat old hooker crap to really show the world how little game you really have.

YOU wrote the OP on the pathetic state of the client(s) in your world...NOT me.

I never said to quit...simply fire those "C" clients.  I recommend that to all my clients and a few react like you...so I then fire them as I simply can't stand stupid.

But it seems you've realized how juvenile your bitching was.  Hence your ad hominem retorts now.

I didn't realize your OP was an attempt to see how much game I have...if so, I'll try and be more cooperative next time.  

I trust you read my other post regarding the BF/SO of hookers...I'm sure it doesn't apply to you however  LOL

Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
Every hooker puts up with something for the money as does every person in every job at some stage. If we all quit because something or someone pissed us off there would be huge unemployment.  
   
 And you know nothing about me other than the shit I carry on with on this board so keep your sanctimonious business crap and your education crap to yourself, it is old, predictable and I thought you of all people would come up with some new shit to impress your boys.  
   
 Now how about thrilling me with some fat old hooker crap to really show the world how little game you really have.

I can't believe you turned your comment into a hookers lack of business acumen and education, your timeless standby insults when my post had nothing to do with it.  

Wow, ugghh just when I thought you might have grown up you disappoint and revert right back to a complete dick. Oh well, I should lower my expectations when it comes to you. LO

But then you decided it was all about you...how narcissistic  LOL

And I stand by my comments to you...if you really understood how to cull clients you would never have asked the question.

But know you're far from alone on this.

Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
I can't believe you turned your comment into a hookers lack of business acumen and education, your timeless standby insults when my post had nothing to do with it.  
   
 Wow, ugghh just when I thought you might have grown up you disappoint and revert right back to a complete dick. Oh well, I should lower my expectations when it comes to you. LOL  
   
 

It was about the cluelessness of some guys and how a woman's body works.  

I like the guy. He just sucks in bed and since my wants are not a part of the equation at least as far as I am concerned, I don't need to cull him. I am dealing with it tomorrow. If he was a jerk and did that, well john meet curb.  

Yes I am narcissistic, an asshole, a bigot, a bitch, and arrogant. Now we have that out of the way, what's next

Got to go, but look forward to more "back and forth".

HooktardGold1551 reads

Not that you are the primary one who does this, but EVERY fkin time we express the least bit of disdain for a 'facet' of this business, the "you're jaded, quit your job" comments do seem to surface.  

Funny, I am never told that about my real life profession and there are some things I don't like... the money and the perks far outweigh the negative which for me is NOT enough work. I average less than 20 hours a week and would love to work 40... see what I mean? Most people would love to make what I do and work from home vs. making half the pay and having to drive to an office to put in 40 plus hours.  

I wish some of the old LR posts were still up, because you would see I have had many of the same complaints about 'some' guys. Trust me... if you were ALL that stupid, there would not be a hooker for less than 3k a date.

told h+t that she is jaded, or to quit her job?

Nope...simply said to her that in any business the operator has the power to control who are their customers.  And if that customer is a PITA they have the power to terminate.  If any owner simply wants to bitch about the customer then that's on the owner.

So she doesn't have a valid point in complaining about something that she...and only she, has the power to change.  Or she can bitch about it and I'll gladly call her on it as I have.

Posted By: HooktardGold
Not that you are the primary one who does this, but EVERY fkin time we express the least bit of disdain for a 'facet' of this business, the "you're jaded, quit your job" comments do seem to surface.  
   
 Funny, I am never told that about my real life profession and there are some things I don't like... the money and the perks far outweigh the negative which for me is NOT enough work. I average less than 20 hours a week and would love to work 40... see what I mean? Most people would love to make what I do and work from home vs. making half the pay and having to drive to an office to put in 40 plus hours.  
   
 I wish some of the old LR posts were still up, because you would see I have had many of the same complaints about 'some' guys. Trust me... if you were ALL that stupid, there would not be a hooker for less than 3k a date.

HooktardGold2319 reads

Does not change the fact that every time a hooker bitches about some idiot, we are told to quit the biz by many guys here. It's the most asinine thing to say, unless she always complains about a different facet of the industry. Trust me, if it was ALL bad, everyone would quit.

And that would mean I may indeed be a secondary person to do that?

Or were you really just venting about the assholes who like to tell all the hookers to STFU or quit.

Yep...I know that's who you meant to address  LOL

Posted By: HooktardGold
Does not change the fact that every time a hooker bitches about some idiot, we are told to quit the biz by many guys here. It's the most asinine thing to say, unless she always complains about a different facet of the industry. Trust me, if it was ALL bad, everyone would quit.

JackDunphy2375 reads

You might want to get an education yourself honey just to broaden out that Mensa equivalent vocabulary you got going on there.  

You don't have to quit. Just try this next time instead:

"Stop, please.

Otherwise how would some of you deal? I do consider some of the audience. You in particular. LO

JackDunphy1925 reads

It's a very natural role for you to play.

She tried her hand at throwing out an OP that would create some havoc.

Problem is is that she didn't handle the curves well enough to keep the train on the tracks.

That's OK...I applaud her efforts.  

Practice does indeed make perfect!

Posted By: JackDunphy
It's a very natural role for you to play.

Put him on "do not reply" on the emails/text/phone

Wow...that was really tough  LOL

But when some look at the stack of bills...hard to tell a C client to go away.  And those who believe in running a business that way never get out of their own way.

There's a reason why guys like me never have an issue with seeing hookers.  And I know of many others who get this game as well.  As do you  ;)

Posted By: JackDunphy
You might want to get an education yourself honey just to broaden out that Mensa equivalent vocabulary you got going on there.  
   
 You don't have to quit. Just try this next time instead:  
   
 "Stop, please."  
   
 

However, the explanation is funny because we all deal with it - most just don't say it.

I had a guy once say, "Squirt for me, squirt for me..." I said, "I don't squirt" lol. He looked sad and said, "It really turns me on when a woman squirts. I'd be very happy.." I look back and wonder if he wanted me to pee on him, lol. Maybe next time? Haha.

If I can't orgasm, I close my eyes and think of super dirty porn and it gets me off; however, that's during cunnilingus, not dry finger fucking. Nothing can distract me from it because it pinches. If he's got his hand down there that quickly, I'd simply just say it verbally. Some people don't take hints. They're utterly literal.

If it's a problem for me, I actually (tactfully) just say it. I.e. "I need you to make me wet first. Here's how." It's cool to have learned how to communicate and teach someone about my body. In most cases using words instead of body language is successful.  

Back to business... I get what the guys are saying about 'don't complain', as complaining about work is most people's pet-peeves in the corporate world. But I also get how it feels to think you're doing something wrong when, in fact, it's completely normal to react a certain way physically. Venting can bring positive results in getting a fresh perspective so we can go back and handle the situations better the next time. May it be 1-dumping the client, (not worth it IMO if he's not a bad person and you don't mind seeing him) or 2-seeing it for what it is, and going back with the confidence you need to communicate your problems with him now that you know it's not just you.

C

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At one point in our play she queefed.  A lot.  Later, she asked if I was going to review her that I not mention it.  I said sure and assumed she was embarrassed by it but she said no.  "A lot of guys really like it when girls queef but I can't do it with everyone and I don't want them to expect me to and be disappointed."

He is a sweet guy, kind and decent. Other than his penchant for touching me dry and not having a fucking clue that it does not feel good, and expecting me to come, I deal. As do many ladies deal , for the money.  

My question to the board, which was lost was simply why do guys, any guy keep probing when there is no sign of wetness? End of story. The rest of the explanation came from why there is no wetness and it got a life of it's own after that.  

Tomorrow I shall tell him to quit touching me like that and I can breathe a sigh of relief and he can go to town licking me till I "come" and he feels great, I get paid, he leaves, all is good.

So here's a song, just for you.  Partly sarcastic, partly not.  Cuz I still like you, you bitch! LOL

I like the fantasy, build it up and play it out, lie to me, I don't care. Get me off and I'm completely fine with it. I'll give you the envelope, you give me the fantasy and we're good. I don't expect you to think I'm hot, especially since I know I'm not.  

I can see how uncomfortable this could be for a lady. Personally, I'd want you to tell me if what I'm doing is uncomfortable and especially if it's painful, so that I don't do that anymore. I have your attention for 2-4 hours at a time, and if I'm hurting you or making you uncomfortable then I'm only taking away from my own experience for that specific time frame. I'd much rather you want to rock my world and then commence to doing so.

So, if you want to act out a good orgasm then I'm all for it. There are a few porn stars who act out a good orgasm and I'll watch every scene they make because they're good at it.

I'm unlike your sweet client in that if you were to tell me or give me the impression that you aren't interested in getting off, but that you just want to get me off I'd be perfectly fine with that. I'm the client so I expect to get pleased, if you can and want to get there too, then cool. If not, just make sure that I'm pleased and you'll have a loyal client who doesn't try to negotiate and who is respectful

And russ isn't cheap either.  

Might be a bit awkward to have russ explain to your client that it's all fake and he shouldn't care.  Sure sounded like that wasn't an option.

This guy wants it, no needs it to be real for him. Oh well.

HooktardGold2305 reads

It's not about being selfish... that simply connotes you wanting to get off, NOT you wanting to play like you're skilled by causing physical pain to someone. I don't give two shits how much a guy pays... if he puts me in actual physical pain, his options are going to be very limited. A foot up his ass or he can leave without harm AND without his money for being such a dumbass. If you want a body that does not respond to painful stimuli, get a plastic one and leave hookers alone lol.

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I am not being paid enough to endure pain because some guys wants to feel like a stud. Find a BDSM lady to do that shit with.

There is a lot I will do to make a client feel like a stud etc but I draw the line at pain.

JackDunphy2210 reads

TS said ..."Not sure why that is" in reference to men wanting to please her. I replied with what I did. Many men don't like to be seen as selfish lovers in this game. Fk dude, YOU know that.

My point wasn't about some john going too far or ANYTHING to do with pain. You twisted what I said. Get off that shit.

And get back to class, or whatever you are now doing. LOL

HooktardGold2064 reads

Damnit... how is it you guys KNOW when I must be drinking lol. Up yours mofo!  

FYI, unless I go back for my Doctorate, no classes here lol. I work about 3-4 hours a day from my balcony but I did drop 15 lbs. ha ha ha. Don't ask.

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JackDunphy2202 reads

And I wont ask about the weight loss but...just hope it wasn't on that new fad "Aldo Plan" was it? :D

Peace, Rayne.

GaGambler1935 reads

You got a boob reduction??? rofl

and people usually know when I am drinking as well, if it's five o'clock SOMEWHERE, I am most likely drinking.:)

Did it hit anything of anybody?? Oh sorry, you said not to ask. Seriously if it was meant to be, congratulations on the weight.

HooktardGold1693 reads

The option was lose weight or add on to the house which I can't do in a high rise bwahahhaa. I miss my big house in nola, but I had to lease it out to pay off the mortgage and be able to move to the beach.  

My cat and I were struggling with my fat ass in less than 2000 sq. ft. here.  I actually look a lot better than LR ever did, which is kind of ironic. Boobs are still about a D cup, but my tummy, hips and waist are much smaller. At 107 and 5 ft. 2, I still have curves.

HTG knows I love her and, for the record, I usually like 90% of what "hobbyist+truth" says, too.  But it seems like they took a fairly innocuous post and spun themselves completely out of orbit with it. Girls! Come back!  Please!  Come back!  You are needed here!

GaGambler2109 reads

and she still makes at least a little bit more sense than Pimples or Fungy, but the gap is narrowing. lol

And to answer your question about why some guys like it to be about the woman receiving pleasure, well, some of us get turned on more if we believe she's into it.  Simple as that.

0603450onThe2069 reads

gentlemen I see are that way and they are typically older than myself. I love it and most are excellent at what they do. You can tell they've had years of experience in understanding a woman's body as they listen very well and most times more than none, I don't have to say a word lol. Again, quite an adjustment for someone who has only seen younger guys before this so-called hobby. I just sometimes wonder how it turns out to be all about me lol in some instances and catches me off guard at times. They are so in tune to me, my needs and wants, it's quite refreshing to say the least. Give and take certainly heightens a session 10x over. Especially with my returning gentlemen friends which is what I prefer. Each time only gets better and better.  

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Rammed! Now I see why guys have it all wrong for some of us. Who the fuck told em that ramming is the default unless told otherwise?  

Should not the default be gentle unless she says "ram that (whatever) hard into my pussy until I bleed internally".  I get that some ladies love it like that and that is awesome for them but to do that to every woman as the standard?????

Regarding the word "rammed" I understand the cringe.  But also bear in mind there are gals who, when properly warmed up really do like it "duro."  Less than a week ago I was with a wonderful little nympho who at a certain point started to yell, "Pound it!  Pound it!"  So I did.  I hope that was OK.  She did a very good impression of liking it, then told me to spank her ass.

Pounded  LOL

Or are those thousands and thousands of review writers embellishing that crap?

And if you read Nick's post...many gals (that I've known in and out of this gig) ask for a pounding.

Others don't...and aren't shy to express that it isn't what they desire.  However it seems that in P4P most will quietly absorb that pounding.  Could it be that these dudes think that 3 thrusts equals a pounding?  And then they need to take a nap!  Or get a cramp?  Or just simply get a BBBJ and lie all over the place?

If that has you cringing...you should see some of the shit that gals ask for...and I'm more than happy to oblige (so long as it's stuff I like).  Seriously fucked up shit...or so some would think  ;)

Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
Rammed! Now I see why guys have it all wrong for some of us. Who the fuck told em that ramming is the default unless told otherwise?  
   
 Should not the default be gentle unless she says "ram that (whatever) hard into my pussy until I bleed internally".  I get that some ladies love it like that and that is awesome for them but to do that to every woman as the standard?????

I am sure some ladies are freaky and good for them. I am not turned on by terms that conjure roughness, violence or pain. Never have been and never will. I see a review from a prospective john that says any of those words and it is a "sorry I am unavailable" email back.  

No judgement on those who like those terms and those actions, I am one who does not.

I'm the opposite. I love a good fingerbanging. If done correctly, it can make a lady spring a leak.  

Posted By: TaylorSteele
fingers altogether? I'd like to believe most women are quite sensitive on the 'outside' anyway if touched the right way. No need to jam anything up in there quite honestly. Not effective, at least, not on this chica anyway lol.

from subtle clues. The truly stupid need to be told. I'm guessing we can all be both of those at different times and in different ways.  

My suggestion: Don't tell him what you don't like. Tell him what you DO like and show him while making a big show about how great it feels. Ego protected and gratified at one stroke. Client retained.

HE likes to poke around. I have made such a big deal about his oral skills in the hopes that he will go there and leave his fingers out of it BUT NO, so I am going to be truthful and tell him if it is not wet, leave it alone.  

Which will be all the time as I am not even going to bother with beads or lube etc. He just needs to be told outright.

89Springer1691 reads

to ask a woman if you can put your finger in? Ever since reading complaints on this forum from providers, I've been asking (also using hand sanitizer).

I didn't ever see that memo..is it on the Inet?

Posted By: 89Springer
to ask a woman if you can put your finger in? Ever since reading complaints on this forum from providers, I've been asking (also using hand sanitizer).

89Springer2078 reads

Well, I guess it's not a standard of any kind. Maybe it should be printed on all $100 bills.

Meanwhile, providers can deal with the problem the way my ex did when she didn't want me fingering her: cross her legs hard. It hurt. ;)

if anticipation alone doesn't get my juices flowing. You could try that.

That does absolutely nothing for me. He just needs to keep his fingers away period. And no I don't care if he finds someone else.

LucasHood2195 reads

And yet you continue to see him. Imagine that.  

Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
That does absolutely nothing for me. He just needs to keep his fingers away period. And no I don't care if he finds someone else.

It is a job that I get paid for, not fucking match.com trying to find a life partner.

Are you really that naive to think that the hookers you may see are all climbing the walls because they find you so hot? Try asking to fuck them minus the envelop. That is what is attractive about you.  

Now if you are kind, clean and respectful it helps and if a hooker does find you attractive, let that be the icing on the cake. Because more than likely most of the guys a hooker sees are not her ideal.

I've seen quite a few of the BF/SO of gals who I find quite attractive.  

Honest to fucking God I have NO clue how they see that SO/BF the least bit attractive (fat, ugly, old and such)...let alone isn't paying her for fucking.

I've also met many of those gals johns...and most are a major step up from the BF/SO.  Of course that is how I see it.

Oh well...I guess you have much higher standards than most.  However until I see what your idea of a "life partner" would be....the jury will just stay out.

I still crack up at some of the hoe's here who post up pics of guys they think are hot...yet knowing what they have at home where they had a major role in the BF/SO they're with at the moment.  Makes you wonder a bit  LOL

Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
It is a job that I get paid for, not fucking match.com trying to find a life partner.  
   
 Are you really that naive to think that the hookers you may see are all climbing the walls because they find you so hot? Try asking to fuck them minus the envelop. That is what is attractive about you.  
   
 Now if you are kind, clean and respectful it helps and if a hooker does find you attractive, let that be the icing on the cake. Because more than likely most of the guys a hooker sees are not her ideal.

Lose him, learn from it, heal up and move on. next new guy (NO DIGITS)

cuppajoe1953 reads

How about you get a nice, and nice tasting, lube, maybe already warmed up. Ask him to rub it on you?  Start gently on the outside, maybe softly massage the labia major first.  Rub plenty around the inner lips, moving around gently, but making sure all the edges and surfaces are lightly rubbed with lube.  Start looking for the opening by gently parting the curtains, maybe reposition your legs so the labia stay open.  Looking back and forth from the view to your eyes to see what you're liking is, of course, required.  

Start entering with only the tip of one finger, with a dab of lube on the end.  Swirl the finger around the perimeter of the vagina  and     . ..  then   .   .  .   maybe     . .       .      .

Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
Had a client last week who after about 2 minutes went straight for the pussy with his digits. Let's just say it was like the Sahara down there because this guy is very unattractive, but very sweet. He is one of those johns who pretty much insists on the lady getting off which naturally is an impossibility for me so out come those acting skills to make this guy happy.  
   
 So there he is poking away and it is becoming sore and irritated so I gently move his hand to other places in the hopes he will get the hint that when NOT WET, it's irritating. Nope not a chance, back he went digging around, not rough but when you're not wet that is not comfortable.  
   
 Guys, do you keep poking around in the hopes that she will get aroused with your digital ministrations or do you grab a clue and move on to something else  hoping that it might open the flood gates and her pussy will be more receptive to your fingers?  
   
 I think before I see this guy again and it is a weekly deal, I am going to squirt up some lube so it doesn't bother me so much. I just wish he had a clue.  
   
 Ah fuck it, I think I am going to actually tell him to stop and let him know that his tongue feels much better. Even that doesn't do much but at least it won't feel like the other.

I will break out the lube and if he gets miffed he is not the one turning me on, well that is his deal not mine. He needs to check the mirror and maybe reality as well while he is there.

The more I read I am going to tell him not to bother with his fingers...not a fan of it anyway lubed or not.  

I know he thinks he is rockstar at it but I am getting to the end of my hooker rope with this activity.

Mr. Fisher, I like your approach the best so he will get no fingers period but tongue , have at it!

and keep it up for a while, to be sure she's wet, before introducing a digit.  I'll admit I love girls who enjoy that.  To me  it's very sexy to have a couple of fingers massaging her G-Spot whilst my tongue flicks her clit, or while she sucks my cock.

Ignorance and sluggish thinking are conditions that no one forgives. Even a person of limited intelligence will condemn those with lesser mental ability, or less knowledge-- which is really mostly accumulated sense-data and sufficient problem solving skill to make rational sense of observations. Most people DO master some degree of that, meaning people can learn and behavior can undergo some degree of change. But because this man seems reluctant to learn, you're frustrated as to how to teach, even communicate.

So dealing with such people in any intimate sense can be very upsetting.

The other aspect you mentioned is that he is ugly. I would hope you could take time to deal with this shortcoming in some productive way.

You didn't elaborate, but since most people fall short of even the most generous definition of "attractive," I assume your client is either disfigured, crippled, or deformed physically. Naturally, such men have deep-rooted passions about being loved, noticed, respected, and appreciated by women. Everyman wants to bring pleasure to a woman, but the unfortunates CRAVE attaining such a response in unrealistic degree.

For a lot of your clients, giving pleasure proves their maniliness to them. For the deformed and/or disfigured, being a source of pleasure proves their humanness. Many very kind and sympathetic people in their lives simply put up with them. Day by day, incident by incident, through rejection, avoidance and mockery, they develope fantasies. All these fantasies center around some story of their giving joy or pleasure to another (usually a woman, but it can also be to a group [thus attaining social recognition of their humanity]).

To ordinary men, such a frustration often leads to their being the class clown or excelling at some skill or sport. To the severely disfigured it more often remains on the level of touch and physical exchanges of compliments. They see themselves akin to animals, not quite of the same species, or at least not accepted as wholely of the same species as other people. That is what they want to be assured of. Your client wants you to reaffirm that he is indeed a man, a human, and a source of pleasure to a woman, to a human woman who accepts him as of her species, of her knid... LIKE her. He wants you to LIKE him.

Unfortunately, since he is also mentally challenged, this probably won't be easy, and changing his behavior to get him to slow down, enjoy the steps along the way, and surrender to play and romancing will seem like a chore to him at first.

Quite possibly, the task of dealing with him is beyond your ability, especially given the time restraints of session length. Best, maybe, to simply tell him this and ask him to move on. That, I'm sure, he has had some experience with. He had dealt with rejection before.

What he seeks could probably more easily be found elsewhere.

To give him that humaness and to make him feel he is pleasing me. But there is just something so fucking irritating at having your clit rubbed dry.  

So, he is either clueless that it needs to be wet, is doing it on purpose to piss me off BECAUSE I do  not physically find him attractive and be dripping wet after 2 minutes if his arrival.  

Well he will find out this Thursday that he can no longer touch me like that and that he can head on down and "please" me with his tongue.  

I did not mention he had a disability or that he was mentally retarded. I guess you felt your point would be made better if you threw that in there. I said he was sexually inept and that he was very unattractive. Not a stretch in this profession, to come across. But you already know that right?

...although I'm sure there are a great many hobbyists out there who you WOULD find attractive.

I didn't really assume that he was mentally disabled in the usual sense, but some people can easily change their behavior and others actually find that difficult. Not to even broach the "Who's in charge" issue.

The tongue POA sounds good to me. I'm sure he'll enjoy it, and...from there...?

The physical thing is a different issue. I wonder if you... try to pretend to not notice?

Or is he aware that you are accommodating him? If he took things more slowly, could trust that it would lead to a happy ending before he leaves you, maybe it wouldn't be such a bad experience. For you or him. If you told him it takes you awhile to warm to some men, do you think he'd...listen? Instead of feeling self-conscious, he might feel that you are reacting very personally to him? Keeping it real?

Acting, as a skill, doesn't so much mean counterfeiting an emotion, but more borrowing a real feeling from somewhere else within you. You know what I'm talking about.

Well, good luck.

ShortNotice2120 reads

So teach him....haven't you tried to talk to him?... I'm actually very gentle with women and am very good down there because I and understand that 99% of women's vagina's aren't receptive to being abused like in some Gonzo movie. Even still I'm always receptive to instruction because some women orgasm from G spot stimulation, others from clitoral, some are too sensitive on the clit etc...  As for using digits while not wet....that's a no brainer, but you should be teaching him about the Vag and what to do because he obviously has no clue. Sounds like this guy watches too much porn and thinks that the techniques he sees in movies are what he needs to use in real life.

maybe something like:  "Crap! This isn't working! I'll just do it harder and faster! That's got to work!"

Brings to mind the old joke:

Q: Why did Moses get lost for 40 years in the desert?

A: Because he was a man, and refused to stop and ask for directions

Do you think that if men were smarter that these inflated prices would come down?

Why is it that despite being more than represented in all the major professions, business, sports, military, arts, sciences, academia, politics, and yes even crime, you could not name even one famous Jewish explorer?

We have Mr. Moses to thank for that.

This explains why he found "The New World" instead of India, where he was headed

This chestnut keeps coming up over and over, but no serious scholars that I've heard of give the theory much credence.

I once did Google the term "Jewish explorers", and came back with some interesting reading.  In most cases, the "explorers" were merchants who hooked up with an explorer in search of new business.

None of the names however, were of famous explorers whom you would actually find in a history book used in grade school.

HooktardGold2092 reads

It's either they are too clueless to realize our vaginas do not flow like a waterfall with wetness upon the very sight of them, or too many providers have bit their lips and never said a word to avoid a bad review. I can assure you, I was never that girl lol. Even worse is a guy who wants to slap a condom on and just have sex with NO stimulation beforehand... that's where those Liquibeads come in handy, but I would just kick his stupid ass to the curb before going through the trouble. I can deal with ugly guys, fat guys, rude guys and shy guys, but I draw the line at total dipshits.

Too many hookers have said nothing for fear of a bad review.  I don't give a fuck about a bad review, or any review for that matter. If it hurts you are going to be told to stop.

That defense is weak.  

Now that I've read all your posts here it sure sounds like you've got a problem...and that problem is you.

Quit trying to deflect that issue on some john...it's not his problem.  

When anyone is pissing me off I'll let them know....if they persist they're not a client of mine after that.

See...easy.  Take responsibility.  And don't throw the shit back claiming this isn't like any other business.  You gals can't have it both ways.  But many of those with entitlement issues think they can..and should have it both ways.

Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
Too many hookers have said nothing for fear of a bad review.  I don't give a fuck about a bad review, or any review for that matter. If it hurts you are going to be told to stop.

Again, the unforgivable offense: Not being very bright.

I wonder how many men have a kind of desperate attitude about getting their money's worth. It seems they'd enjoy it more by savoring each degree of closeness along the way. But it's probably hard for a woman to express that this would be a better way of, "getting his money's worth."

But women can also take the "sooner it's over, the sooner to sleep" attitude.

Posted By: HooktardGold
It's either they are too clueless to realize our vaginas do not flow like a waterfall with wetness upon the very sight of them, or too many providers have bit their lips and never said a word to avoid a bad review. I can assure you, I was never that girl lol. Even worse is a guy who wants to slap a condom on and just have sex with NO stimulation beforehand... that's where those Liquibeads come in handy, but I would just kick his stupid ass to the curb before going through the trouble. I can deal with ugly guys, fat guys, rude guys and shy guys, but I draw the line at total dipshits.

HooktardGold2132 reads

More like the sooner it's over, the sooner I can pull his shoe out of my ass and throw it back to him so he does not have to explain that on the way home. :)

Purely personal kind of thing.  

Also, suggest telling the moron while he is doing whatever he is doing. Honesty works sometime

This is just supposed to be a rant. But, this thread has turned into a clusterfuck. Same thing kinda happened to Khori's thread in the Atlanta board the other day.

I admit I read it wrong and tried to offer tips for a dry pussy. But, I don't think you wanted tips because you already know what you're fixing to do Thursday. I think you just wanted to rant and be heard and have us feel some empathy. I want that too sometimes. And, I can empathize. I hate it when a guy thinks lube is good enough to just start fucking my ass. No, dude. It takes assplay and preparation. You can't just pull out of my pussy, lube up your cover and shove it in my ass. My ass takes time. Well, that felt pretty good to get off my chest. And I'm sure the Greek goddesses here know what I'm taking about.

Can't we ladies just bitch about something (and bitch passionately even) without getting eaten by wolves? We just wanna bitch sometimes, ok?

hotplants2274 reads

If common sense were anywhere in the vicinity, you could just pull out the lube without him reading that as a condemnation of his sexual prowess. I suppose it would be unrealistic to ask that porn scenes had a closer resemblance to how having sex with a woman who is REALLY enjoying it actually looks.  

What I have learned from porn is that, after 2 minutes of her sucking his cock, and 90 seconds of him jamming his fat digits in, and attacking her clit like it was a wild animal that needs to be tamed, she is completely naturally lubed-up and ready to go.  

And who wouldn't be? ...lol..

HooktardGold2321 reads

Yah, but some clients will not take no for an answer until you show them the door... which, is exactly what I would do. Some of these guys can be told numerous times not to do this, how to do this and they still insist they know best. Ok then.  

Let me throw this blog in...



-- Modified on 5/1/2014 10:15:00 AM

RokkKrinn1724 reads

At least on my iPad.  I get to the page but there's no content there, other than some generic picture.

I'll try with an actual computer later.

Perhaps, it's time to pass the torch (of teaching him) to another lady.

Sometimes, we need a particular person to teach us a certain lesson in life (or sex.) Otherwise it just doesn't "stick."

There isn't one singular provider who is "perfect" for every single client, who can "teach them the masterful ways & the art of sex."
Perhaps, you weren't "meant to be his teacher." It's ok, it's not personal failure- nor professional failure, it just is what it is.

I would just move on.
If it makes you feel better, TELL HIM.
 

Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
Had a client last week who after about 2 minutes went straight for the pussy with his digits. Let's just say it was like the Sahara down there because this guy is very unattractive, but very sweet. He is one of those johns who pretty much insists on the lady getting off which naturally is an impossibility for me so out come those acting skills to make this guy happy.  
   
 So there he is poking away and it is becoming sore and irritated so I gently move his hand to other places in the hopes he will get the hint that when NOT WET, it's irritating. Nope not a chance, back he went digging around, not rough but when you're not wet that is not comfortable.  
   
 Guys, do you keep poking around in the hopes that she will get aroused with your digital ministrations or do you grab a clue and move on to something else  hoping that it might open the flood gates and her pussy will be more receptive to your fingers?  
   
 I think before I see this guy again and it is a weekly deal, I am going to squirt up some lube so it doesn't bother me so much. I just wish he had a clue.  
   
 Ah fuck it, I think I am going to actually tell him to stop and let him know that his tongue feels much better. Even that doesn't do much but at least it won't feel like the other.

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