Hello,

Your probably right about that.... Not that I would use that as the sole basis on whether a provider is legit.They could still be shady in other ways even if they are not le....scammers,fake pics,unclean,etc..... As for fake ads just search for the pictures or reviews...

To see a racist, or to not see a racist. LE or not LE... Ure screwed lol.

My thoughts are that if the police did post ads like that it would be discrimination, and probably would not hold up in court. However think about this:
1) Wouldn't the police in doing a sting try to make their ad sound as real as possible? So if many ads in their area say "no black men" shouldn't they put it in their fake ad too?
2) While a case based on an ad that discriminates, may not hold up in court, most of these cases never make it to court anyway. It's about catching and embarrassing the johns. Some locales post names and pictures of the arrestees prior to convictions. Many guys confess or plea out way before it gets to court.

Why is he screwed if she is not LE?

Read the reviews!

It is a method to get convictions built upon a premise that is false i.e. a lie.

Just like if I met someone who told me that they wouldn't see a girl from any specific ethnic group. I don't think I would see that person again. Thats just me though. I So respect how other people conduct their business. We all have our reasons to see or not see certain ethnic groups

agree with you more.  If I were the prosecutor.........my reply would be........."your honor, after viewing countless ads, we believed if we mirrored what many of the ads say........our ad would sound more realistic.........and we would attract more perpetrators."

But that doesn't mean the OP is screwed. Poor choice of words on your part probably. We all make our own moral or ethical choices, but if some white dude sees a provider who has a no AA policy, why would he be screwed?   If he has a moral dilemma with that, then he shouldn't see her.

I'm not a lawyer (Where's fishbro when you need him? )

but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express once.
Anyway I might be full of shit but I do believe a good defense lawyer could win the case because of discrimination in the ad. Even if lost in the low courts eventually it could get thrown out in the Supreme Court. But, and it's a big BUT, who the fuck is going to spend many thousands in legal fees while dragging his name through the cow pasture to carry it that far?

Sure, hypothetically, a good lawyer or a bad one for that matter, can get a highly improbable outcome. No doubt. But the question is where is the discrimination if no one is discrimation against?

When we as providers decide which demographic we wanna provide to. You're right. That's our choice. I defend it and respect girls who aren't all inclusive.  

I think it should be in the ad. It should be disclosed right upfront so people don't waste their time. I have heard of black guys making appointments and then getting turned away at the door, or they knocked on the door and no one answered because of what she saw in the peephole. I think that is terrible. To go through all that and then get turned away. Isn't it better that he see up front in the ad that she won't see him, then he can just say "fuck her! Her loss." Then he can move on to someone who will be happy to see him.  

When it was supposed to be a discussion on how to spot fake ads or LE ads on backpage

Good convo tho.

You are playing racial card started this thread.All people dicrimination on something..Maybe hookers had bad experiences

...and get yourself a TER VIP membership. Then do your due diligence.

what if you're black???

LOL,  that guy has to look for "sorry no whites" providers.

I understand what you guys mean about the cops not giving a damn about the actual conviction. But they open themselves up to lawsuits if they openly discriminate in their enforcement of the law.

It goes to the idea of "selective enforcement" of the law due to race. It would be interesting to watch as the usual way this defense is used is when minorities are singled out for prosecution, not when white people are targeted.

A judge who follows the letter of the law should throw it out. But for most the damage is in being arrested and charged. LE has no real responsibility to be honest and probably would have no liability if they did post an ad excluding certain races but their evidence probably would be thrown out. It s not dissimilar to LE profiling and stopping certain races on the street and not harassing others.  
      But like I said the small fine or even john classes isn't the true impact of a solicitation charge for most, it's the loss of wives, jobs, family and friends. Not to mention 10k in lawyers fees to get out of a $500 fine.

Even if your area isn't a high hobby area I'm sure if you google phone numbers things are bound to come up in the review boards RS or P411 and I enjoy my Twitter feed, there are ladies everywhere! Please do your homework and don't comeback as a guy who had to take one for the team.  Those stories saddens me. Good luck, stay safe.

First, you are assuming that LE placed only a single ad saying “no AA men.” That is not how they do it. Stings are too expensive to set up based on a single ad. So they run multiple ads most of which would be racially neutral.  This would negate any selective arrest or prosecution defense if the ad led to an arrest.

Here is a police sting Ad that was used last march.  Its interesting how they try and make it look like a lot of the other Ads.

Is there a law that says that LE cannot imitate real life sex ads when running a sting? Maybe it's a law that says that when LE runs a sting they must never suggest that anything illegal might be involved even if that "illegal" action is not even the point of the sting? So like a sting where LE pretends to be looking to hire a hooker or buy drugs would be thrown out in court? Oh oh I know, we'll ask the Supreme Court to untangle this legal conundrum because they are champing at the bit to sink their teeth into this hugely important issue.

Backpage is not evil as some people make it out to be. It is simply an ad site, and there are some good providers on there, but there are also tons of scams, bait and switches, police stings and other bad things to be found on BP. I still don't ususlly recommend a newbie start there. You still have other options. While Pensacola doesn't have tons of options like some other cities, there are TER ladies who work there or visit. Search reviews here. Pensacola is not one of the listed cities, but I just found results by searching, United States, All Cities, and putting Pensacola, in the location box. Check the Florida ad board, and watch for ladies advertising your area. Are you able to travel? How about checking out other nearby cities? Look at the Alabama ad board. Join p411, and use their resources. I just checked and found at least 16 providers listed in Pensacola and about 6 in Mobile, Alabama on P411. Look at other review boards. TER is not the only review site. TER is the biggest but doesn't cover all areas and sometimes a smaller local board has better coverage. We can't mention other boards on TER, but they are not hard to find.  

In NY you probably have no reason to look at BP. In some areas BP is actually the best or only resource. I still agree with you on the TER VIP though. Use TER (and other sites) to cross reference what you find on BP, if you must use BP.

I will concede that it is discrimination.

Either way they are targeting or excluding based on race. A really good attorney could find case law supporting that, that they placed an ad and excluded black men from arrest. It wouldn't have to go to the high court. To some extent its profiling and it's been decided by many state courts.  
     To be honest in a quick search I couldn't find what I wanted to support my case but didn't look very hard. The fact is it really doesn't matter to LE, 95% plus will plead guilty before a trial, the other five percent of its that high will spend more fighting it than they would just pleading and LE could drop or let them plead out to a lower charge at any time, LE wouldn't be civilly liable in my opinion because the intent was there to commit a crime. Whether LE approach was wrong or not the man charged is the one out.  
       If law enforcement ran a sting to only hire black hookers or buy drugs from black drug dealers yes it probably would be thrown out if it could be proven that they ignored or excluded other races. It s doing the same thing but to a smaller extent when they say "no black men" in their ads.  

Ha!

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Sorry to hear the pickings are slim in your neighborhood. Yeah, NY hs it all. But we have to pay!

but a racist provider honestly in these days that is just not cool.