As I've read comments from men and women on this forum about what gets a woman off, techniques, what to do, what not to do, I don't think I've ever seen any mention of the woman's attitude toward or perception of the guy.

many times…many waaaayyyys-

There's not much you can do besides being yourself - you can't fake true chemistry, although we pay the ladies to try. All you can do is be nice and take comfort that you weren't one of the jerks that makes the lady want to retire. Stop putting pressure on her to get off, it only makes things worse. Her job is to get you off. Period. It may be that the wall you keep hitting is because you're trying too hard.  

and all else will follow.

I d just be responsive to what she is telling you she wants to do as foreplay. Some relax best with dfk some need a quick rub down head to toe. I am a predictable person with my routine to help me relax. I personally dont like rushing into it asap. I feel more comforatble if we di massage few seconds in beginng , to get a slow ease into it, Then by end I am swearing and being like the crazy talkn dirty type, It progresses into that as we go.  
            I personalkly cringe when i get my nipples sucked, Unlike majority of women, I know whats gonna frustrate me and annoy me and Know exactly whatl get me really relaxed and into it. I learned not to try and act like you enjoy every activity just to please the client. I find for me getting an ass massage send s chills up my spine the good kind. Then hugging and like mutual massage and gripping each other kind of up and down each others bodies in an embrace.  
              BBJ obviously. I love. I d just allow her to direct you to what she needs to get relaxed and in mood. But dont pressure the lady to cum for you, Your the one after paying some one for pleasure so to go and then just expect her to pretend to get off for you , I hate when they do that. I d rather focus on getting the guy off. If i end up horny and decide to get off, I dont like to be pressured or forced into it or put on the spot, It dont matter his looks. Do you care what a lady blowin you looks like? Answer is no, . So think about it we dont care either you can expoerience pleasure with any one if you know your body. I know what gets me going so I just tell them so we can all relax and feel good. I know what turns me off and frustrates me in bed too so i just dont  pretend to enjoy everything anymore , Its been going well this way and sometimes they seem to enjoy it more when you know your body and how to communicate . They can tell if your having fun,  
 Looks dont matter, but when they are acting un impressed I can tell and then also my self esteem takes a hit and i feel self conscious then can tell they arent into me, and then i wonder why the fuck they came!
   I got an email this week after a meeting daying they thought I wasnt genuine enough, I on my end felt a vibe that they just simply were bored and not impressed despite my attempts to wow. Not often i get that reaction from guys over 20 years older i am used to the guy being blown away and stuff so . I guess it just makes you wonder why some come specifically just to critic and act mean, I dont get it,........... I d rather have the old out of shape guy thats gonna think i am a fantasy, than the guy that is in shape and acts pompous and un impressed and well that just plain sucks feeling like some onje is disapointed, I get hornier knowing i am being appreciated.  
 I will take and old man over a young buck any day, But most gals with self esteem issues are always gonna feel this way, And many in this line of work we have to project power and sexiness and prowess and confidence, In my czase i am the most down on my body and looks ever , I hate my nose, Hate my body. Think i am ugly, I cant act that way cuz it just isnt the job. I bet for many not just me when an old man comes not in shape and tells me how much fun he had and how beautifyul it really makes me horny to get that confidence boost , i feel prettier and then i get into it more, My sex drive is non existant when a guy acts like he is disapointed and thought i didnt do a good job, Like this one client this week,  
            He emailed me several times this week to explain his dispointments and how he alsio requested if I do role play, I reponded yes, He fired back, "that didnt sound enthusiastic enough"
        Some the guys that are in shape are the same ones that make me feel bad about myself and insult me after a session so, I will take the old fatty that makes me feel young beautiful and desirable any day, And have an explosive real orgasism with him, Not for apearances but for how he can fill me being with joy and make me feel like some fantasty sex goddess. Being treated like a goddess is the biggest turn on of all, '
            Being treated like a piece of crap is a big turn off and many seem to come just to do that , its like they enjoy trying to make women feel bad, It takes all kinds......................

There are way to many things that go onto an O for me. Looks have nothing to do with it. If he looks like a super model, it's harder for me actually. Idk why yet.

I have to agree with what Sophia said, 100% this is how I feel as well in regards to looks. Attitude always wins!

I'm not talking about me in particular here. I'm curious about how the ladies react to the guy's appearace, and how that reaction affects (or doesn't affect) the performance. I know that I've never been able to get off if the woman I was with wasn't attractive to me, but I'm a guy. Women are different, or at least claim to be until the talk turns to Vin Diesel, Tom Cruise, Jason Statham or Johnny Depp.  

Ask me repeatedly...do you like this? Or this? Or this? How about this? This works especially well if you bring out a foot-long toy.

hey  

I'll try to put on a few lbs or show up with greasy hair or fake snaggle teeth next time if it will help you out

Wish you'd come to NY, but maybe I'll find you up there again.  Your new site and pix are great and you look just like them.  This is one older guy who'd see you in a heartbeat.  Love to know what you  think of my recent tat and other "enhancements" I've made since I saw you.

You not only make me feel good, but you make me feel good about being made to feel good.

I know that sounds like gibberish, but it makes sense.

So many times we guys feel like were supposed to get you gals to come for us, like it's some kind of masculine thing and if we don't do it, we are losers.  But in truth, most gals get uptight when they feel like they have to cum for us, and then it's a lose/lose proposition.

If we just relax and let the gals do their jobs, then it will be a win/win session for both.

And if you put down your looks and especially your cute little nose again, I'm going to teach Pepper* to say:  "Angel's got a big beak."

8o)


*That's her parrot.  Careful though, he bites.

I know, I know, that's my answer for everything.

This is a job so I get what I get, I do my job well and go home. "Doing something right" is showing up clean, being respectful of her body and time and paying her. If and it's a big if, your ministrations work, then consider yourself lucky with some ladies. I am not attracted to old, or fat, but when at work, you'd think I was.  

If I am not attracted, well forget it.

you're probably the only one who doesn't have to worry about offending potential customers reading this forum.

Angel, we've never met but I don't have to do anything more than read your post (oh, and go to your website and see your pics,of course) and make no mistake ma'ma, you ---- are ---- beautiful.

Because I don't date at all whatsoever outside of this hobby and it's been on and off for two years I honestly don't have a fucking clue what "hot" is to me anymore.

I'll definitely take a hot-looking dude, too.  BUT.  The problem with them is too many think they're God's gift to women.  They are arrogant and don't make much of an effort to please their partner. I'll take an ordinary-looking guy who wants to please me any day.  Plenty of such guys have rocked my world.  And paid me well to do it.  No wonder I love my job!
Anyway, why do you think they invented doggy style, *giggle*

If she's hot, performs well and makes me believe she's having a good time I'm not gonna over-analyze it.  I will believe the fantasy while I'm in it and have fun.
OTOH, I do know from experience that, at times, it can be more than just a fantasy because I've actually formed some nice friendships with more than a few gals.  This has nothing (or at least little) to do with sex.  It's just personal chemistry/compatibility

Just keep focusing, inhaling throug your mout (deep), hold it in for 3 to 4 seconds, exhale competely and you will get the truthful answer.  

You expect men to comprehend all that?

And realize that if you are 60 and are booking hot 23 year olds, they are most likely not attracted and to get offended when a hooker says she likes hot and young too is absurd.

I'm hearing the sort of answers I was looking for from most of the providers. They're saying how they react to a guy's looks, and how it affects or does not affect their performance.

But there are some who really don't see the reflection.

Love to watch a pretty girl getting fucked in a mirror, especially if she likes looking at herself.  Trouble is, if I'm not careful, I look at myself.  It's like we're making a new version of "Beauty and The Beast." I'm way beyond worrying about it.
Here's my latest version

When a man sees a woman, nature has already geared him to look for ripe, healthy women with big strong loins to bear his young and plump breasts with which to nurse them. For centuries women were assumed to be the weaker sex physically because upper body strength was very important for "survival." So societies evolved courtship norms for their protection. The male carried out the aggressive role of approaching the females and asking them to dance, and the women were vested with the option of accepting or declining their invitations. So that meant that the women gained more suitors by making herself attractive to them, and men found they were less frequently rejected if they approached with a modicum of respect. And by convincing them that they would do well in providing material support for them and adequately protect them.  

even if they had hands. Just sayin'.

Some of the ladies have made nice comments about their perception of men that they see...but if you ever even once say something they don't like on a TER board then generally they will have a negative perception of you because they are quick to judge a faceless person behind a computer with out ever having actually met them. IME

Is that we're each responsible for our own orgasm, don't worry so much about the other person.  I know that helped me (1) settle down and relax a bit more, and that helped her relax, and GoSub (1) ...  we were having a lot more fun.

In my personal life, I want young, built and a little rough around the edges.  

Yummy

I'm late in replying to your post because I wanted this thread to be about guys in general, and not me. In reading my original post, I don't think I worded it well enough to get that across. There's also some members with reading comprehension skill problems.

Or would that be better discussed as a thread unto itself?

Sort of like cricket is today.

Who furiously scratch a hooker off their "to do" list if she says something to hurt their wittle feelers? Yep I guess there  are both types.

One of the most valuable lessons I've learned from being a provider is that ALL MEN have qualities within that make them groovy.

hahahah I do but the guys love it , it tickles thier nuts when i blow em,,,,,,,,,,,,,it has its pro 's and its cons, {italian pride baby I loove my nose} hahaha.. thank you.......

what a predictable reply and thank you for making my point.

Somehow that warrants a nod from me simply for originality.

LOL....your answer was classic While "hot guys" are nice to look at, many have this arrogant attitude that completely turns me off. When you think your dick, and you dick alone, is the end-all solution...well... I much prefer an older gentlemen, (35-55), who is average in looks, as they know how to please a woman, both mentally and physically. If you are not interesting or a good conversationalist, then the chemistry is usually not going to form past the looks department....and at the age of 34, I have been around long enough to know looks can only get one so far in this world....your attitude and personality will get you much further.  

Who says fate can't be kind? I mean, really. Who's always saying that? I forget.

…guys, look at it this way; if the older out-of-shape guys got themselves into a consistent fitness program, they can get so much more out of a session, so much more out of life.