Some stripper I was checkin out for the night was hot as hell and when I asked her what was up, she said she was down for it but for $$$$$. I was like (EEK) Ok, I'll let ya know in a couple of mins (rolls eyes ugh)

She was hot but damn thats nuts.

This has happened before too, I've been quoted like $$$$$$ and couple of them have even said 1k

Figure for a 4 min / song - a stipper gets $20.  about 15 songs an hour - $300! AND they split with the house.  But they don't do 15 songs per hour... they do considerably less in an average night... tips when they dance - about another $100 every 2 hr.  So on an average evening - working a 6 hr. shift.... they can do 1-2 G.  IF they hustle.  So what keeps them at pretty hard work ??   The occasional high roller....  the old geezer who will come in and tip them with $100 bills - and then expect them to go with em - at the price you quoted....  or more.

One stripper I met - offered me a complete night - at $$$$$$$$ and considering what others charge for an overnight, I thought that was cheap - !!  Only hitch - she picked the hotel & I paid...  

Strippers taht switch to escorting are a breed apart - and I think better.  They do not like the "tease" and comeon that the Strippers exhibit.  That is a large part of why they leave.  The best that I have had are the strippers who provide the BJ in club...  with only the dance fee for incentive... and that has happened for me - more than once and in more than one club....   but then again.... I am green.

It seems to me by my (imperfect, flawed) sample that two thirds started out in the sex industry as strippers.  Now some didn't last long there and moved into something else, like massage, or like the peep booth.

of fools that is... many of the stripper clientel at the old Gold Club in Atlanta were getting top dollar for extra-curricular activities. As you may have read, the place was "mobbed-up" and they were hitting guys CCs for 1000s if they went to the champagne rooms, etc. Strippers as a bunch are all looks and gnats for brains and if you get to know any of them, major drama. Can you imagine all the money you would have saved if you cultivated a regular visit with normal providers who will clean your clock and leave you smiling without the hassle of schlepping around some club waiting for some chick who only wants to jack you off for the same money?

They make pretty decent money dancing.  So if they want to provide extra, it's bonus money.  They can take it or leave it, providing isn't their main pursuit.  So they quote what they like and you know what, there are guys who will pay it because they're worked up about being worked over with lapdances etc.  They're thinking with their little brains they want the hot stripper they're seeing *now*, not thinking logically they could get a better deal if they schedule with a provider in a day or two.

On the other hand, I understand that strippers don't exactly peg their time by the hour, so who knows how much time that $$$$$ pays.  Maybe if you waited till pretty late in the evening and asked, that money could get you an overnight.  Which is a pretty good deal in that case.

Finally the admission.  You really had me going with your reviews and all those reports.  

From the girls Ive spoken to anyhow.
They are fantasized about while the men are watching them dance. Some men would pay anything to pull them off that stage and have at it..

Edited due to reading GirlinDcs post. SO very true what she said.

There is a dancer girl here in Buffalo. If she tells a man no.. They bribe her with gifts. New cars, etc.. and she GETS IT !!! I've seen it with my own eyes. ha



And, they do.

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This is a really interesting discussion.  Frankly, I think $$$$$ is a bargain for a women that I can check for free ahead of time so I know what I'm getting.  My only problem is that I don't really care to hang around strip clubs, but I think strippers are the way better bargain than escorts.  I mean, if you count all the over rated escorts that I've seen, I'm paying quite a high premium by the time I find a hot atf.  And atfs like expensive gifts too, especially as they start giving you discounts or extra time.

I used to frequent strip clubs--before I got into TER.  First, my guess is that most of the men are like me at the time--they really don't know what is out there.   Second, in a strip club you really see what you are getting.   I know, you know nothing about performance.   But you see it in the flesh, and you fantasize about the rest.  Even with the net, you only work from photos, and many of these are fake.

I propositioned several of the girls at the strip club that I frequented, and when I told them I wanted to see them regularly, they turned me down.  But one did take me up on it.

She has a beautiful face and a killer body.   Unlike what some of the people have said above, she is extremely intelligent, although not well educated.   I made her my mistress, and we have been together for more than 10 years.

She is more difficult than an escort because she has demands that escorts don't have.  It has been rocky.  And I think she charges a hell of a lot for "extras" in the clubs.   But obviously, a lot of guys besides me think that she is worth it.

And let's face it - I have taken a buddy of mine into a strip club.... let him oggle the hottest dancer there.  She comes over and says, "Hi Bizzaro, how ya doin' t'nite?"  My friend blows beer out his nose and asks, "You know her?"  and as she leaves she says, "Call me next week so we can go out."  Know the kind of ego trip that was?

As has been stated -it is part status and part you see - in person - what you will be sampling.  I know that is crude - but true.  In addition, as you correctly point out, find the right one, and you get considerably more than an hour - or even (in my case) an overnight.  

And in my case, it was set up so that the overnight took place when she was not working so I did not have to sit around until the wee hours in the AM when she went home.

On the whole though - I prefer escorts.

Yea - one "escort" that I dated was a stripper/escort - and she set men up to provide her with "gifts" (guess you could say she was "gifted" lol, I still got it!).  What was bizarre about this is that she would go on dates (civvie type) and we would go to the stores that the "gifts" came from and return them for $$$!  

me, I was just out car fare - and she would cook for me ......   and put up with my antics...

We kinda came to a screeching halt when we took a skiing trip together with her daughter & her daughter's boyfriend.  As we were walking in the shops in Aspen, she very quickly goes over to the watch display case, where a dude in a floor length fox coat was looking in the case.  She slips her arm in his, point to a very VERY expensive watch - and says "Wouldn't that look lovely on my wrist?"  

I get a bit steamed - and go outside to cool off.  The daughter's boyfriend follows me - and asks what is wrong and I tell him.  He looks at me and says, "Well, how did you think that they were going to pay for their share of the trip?  This is a working vacation."  So what is the kicker....?

The daughter was a CPA, the mother was a well paid dental hygienist...!  They enjoy the profession - I asked her why she went out with me....   and she said

If all of the guys would keep their date activity consistent with the horizontal mambo, we'd all make out better. When guys try to get involved, it skews matters and prices. Look, if you want to get her something for her b'day or some other special occasion, that's fine, but in case you guys are missing the point, they spell it C-H-U-M-P.

Perhaps because they frequently deal with men driven to really rash extremes and blatantly obnoxious behaviours by a combination of alcohol and testosterone, and their most mercenary instincts come to the fore?

I sense many providers won't deal with a potential client who has  obviously had too much to drink, while strippers deal with this sort of male on a daily basis?  Think of it as an aggravation premium?

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You're absolutely right and I'm sorry that my emotional needs interferes with your good business practices.  I'm not being sarcastic, but it is what floats my boat.  In the beginning, I tried to make it about just getting off.  I'm just a hopeless romantic and I get off buying these girls expensive gifts.  For what its worth, it has gotten me tremendous discounts, freebies, extra time, special services and a whole host of goodies that I THINK most hobbyists don't get.  It makes it worthwhile for me.  Yeah, I wish I was like some of you guys who just want to get their rocks off.  It woule be so much easier, but I gravitate to ATFs because I can build some kind of special relationship.  Yeah, I know I'm a chump, but I'm a relatively happy chump and I don't really care about the money that much.  I will try to keep things straight forward with my next atf, but I don't have much hope that I won't let my emotions get involved.

Of course there is one escort niche that also fills the role for ego-stroke: porn star.  In both cases, there are those willing to pay a premium to be able to boast about it.


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Thanks for the rational reply and don't think of being called a chump in the most perjoritve sense of the word. I for one am not devoid of feelings or passion for these ladies. I count some of them as really good friends. My major point was that few of these ladies have any emotional fiber to offer except for what's between their legs. I just happen to think that your passion is misguided. Her pie is sliced many different ways and if you are going to go all out then save it for someone who can return it sincerely. You may not be the worst purveyor of these goodies on the planet, but as I said earlier, many of the hobbyists' behaviors skew the line and blur the reason for being there. As for extras, I get them too for being a gentleman and a frequent flyer. I don't ask unless I am asked and I have been wined and dined by a couple of ladies because I respect them and treat them like a lady; nothing more. With strippers, I have seen men court them for years and never get anything close to the passion I have received from making a single phone call and then showing up. So maybe it's an apples and oranges  approach to the subject. But my warning is and always will be: if you lay you heart out there, expect to get it stomped flat.

Thanx.

My one stripper story - my friend was relocating from Connecticutt to New Mexico in 12/89.  We drove crosscountry to make the move, and we stopped in Nawlins' for a few nites.  We hit a strip club, stayed there until closing, became friendly with a couple of the performers, who took us dancing at a really questionable after-hours joint frequented by a very unusual element.

Alas, no sex.  Just a few sisterly kisses on the cheek.  I sure felt cheated. I mean, c'mon strippers, afterhours clubs, male fanatasies...

We talked about this stupid night until we hit Alberqueque [where his fiance was waiting.  They broke up in less than a year from the date of the move].

I wonder if the strippers are now happily married, living in suburbia raising cute little kiddies, and voting Republican most of the time?

Life - a very strange trip.

Help me out here, BSD!

Loved your story, BTW.

1) They are propositioned ALL THE TIME! So they realize that the demand is very high.

2) They are very used to charging $20 per 2-3 minutes for the dry hump. So they are only averaging out their $/time.

Very nice response from an obviously centered guy.  So different from your earlier off the cuff response.  It hits home with me and it counsels patience and equanimity.  But I don'have that and my time with these ladies are limited.  I enjoy being somewhat passionate about these ladies, escorts or strippers, and I do lay out my heart.  And it has been stomped on.  But because I'm willing to take that risk, these ladies have often opened up their hearts to me and the services and connections they have given me seem out of the ordinary.  If I wasn't married, I would be doing this with civilians, but its way too dangerous for my marriage.  That you have been able to achieve the same results without risking your heart may mean that you are a special guy in some other way.  I had one atf with whom I kept a really business like relationship with and I never pushed for anything special.  And only at the end, when she told me she was going to retire and get married, did I press her and all her feelings for me poured out and she continued to let me see her after she retired.  So for a number of reasons, I take chances with my heart, but I completely see the advantage of your approach.  I don't think its me, though, but it seems to make sense.

So maybe I misjudged your intentions. You seem to have this thing under control than most and since I know you are protecting others, I am compelled to aplogize for my earlier remarks. Do yourself a favor. Never try to make sense of any of this. It's not worth the brain matter and you know what happens when we start thinking too much. Til, then, stay safe and keep hobbying.

When a stripper starts to “flat back”, add sex to her service, she will charge per action.  The price she quotes when she says full service is just the total of all of those services.  She has not researched the rest of the industry, so she does not know what she really should be charging.

I ran into this about a year ago, when a stripper in Baltimore wanted me to do a website for her.  However, she wanted to charge $500.00 an hour, because “that’s what I have always gotten”.  When I explained that in the companionship industry she needed to be model quality perfect & years of excellent reviews to get that rate, she became irate.

No need to apologize.  I was just trying to learn from someone who has a different take on how to handle these women.  I have a friend who is the real playboy type and he gives me similar advice.  But he understands that I'm the romantic type and that a good part of the experience for me is emotional.  So I do pay for it in money and pain, but I'm trying to get the best I can out of this hobby.  If you're ever in LA and want to go check out some strip clubs, let me know.