With a recent thread of sugar daddy/provider relationships - I was wondering, how many providers would actually consider a proposition of marriage for a reg client - one she may not love -- if he were prepared to take care of her?  You may ask - why get married at all?  Just hypothesizing.  I had read once a while back of long term provider relationships for a fee.  I was wondering does this take plave any more?  Do women really sell themselves a year at a time?

Do you have the links to those topics???????

One of my providers told me a week ago that she is temporarily maybe permanently is leaving the business because one of her clients has bought her a car, paid her university tuition, gave her his credit card, leased her a house ... and she doesnt care that he is 14 years older than her and is married!

If they offer their services an hour or two at a time why not for one year if the offer is good. It all depends on the client!

Well I have given this a lot of thought.............and I think if I had the opportunity for an exclusive relashionship with a  client I would definately accept it. Being available to him only when in town and doing some travelling when needed. This would allow me to focus on my children (4) and not worry about juggling 2 different words.Not having to worry about LE or screening , deposits , reviews, worry if I am going to be able to pay my bills  and all that stuff.  The only thing I feel this person would need to have is...............well outside of the basic monetary compensation to cover my overhead  is to love to "dance". I hope my future holds a man for me who loves to dance as much as I do. This is something I am not ever going to bargin with again.
Kisses & Licks.........
Mara

Some thoughts on marriage from famous people I admire.

George Bernard Shaw:  Marriage is the only legally accepted form of prostitution.  Of course he was talking about a society where only an infinitesimal fraction of women could enter the work force.

Kate Hepburn:  Men and women should never live together.  Just live nearby and visit often.  Mara, this sounds more like what you described.

"Arranged wedding" is not really the term you want.  It means a system where the families decide who'll marry whom, and the kids have no choice in the matter.  Almost forgetten here in America but still common practice in many cultures.  "Marriage of convenience" is a better fit to what you're talking about.

I'm not sure why Marriage has to be part of the equation. Why not just the relationship? IN MY OPINION, marriage should be reserved for the most sacred of unions, for absolute love and committment - the highest level of love, committment and integrity that a relationship can elevate to.
All else can be pigeon-holed into some 'other' kind of relationship. I don't see myself ever being married again. For me personally, it was the worst experience of my life, and I don't ever want to repeat it. Granted, it was obviously not a happy one. I'm more inclined to see it as Katherine Hepburn did - just visit often. Jokingly, I like to say that I will marry the man who promises me we can live in Europe most of the time, and here in the states the rest of the time. But, the truth is closer to, I would be inclined to have an 'arrangement' with someone who could provide that (but not marriage).

Warmest thoughts,
Sedona

... you'd be exlusive to this one man who was providing you the life you needed?  What if an old reg called and said "Hey, I've 5 grand - wanna go away for the weekend with me?"  Would the committment to this man 'down the street' be strong enough to prevent you from making a few extra splurge bucks?  Or does this come under the heading of 'trust'?  Just like any marraige?

In some cultures arranged marriages actually lead to loving relationships. Often it's because there's no other choice. Sure it starts out about money but it can end up about desire to make it work.

Anybody read of the Psychology Today experiment in arranged marriages? See the link below.

Personally I'm saddened that so many people have had such terrible marriages in this culture that they believe it's the institution that fails and thus never wish to try again. Good marriages can happen but they do take work and a conscious and continuous effort ( probably that and a little luck too.)


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That people have too great of expectations once they sign a marraige certificate?  Your own description, sedona --

>>>IN MY OPINION, marriage should be reserved for the most sacred of unions, for absolute love and committment - the highest level of love, committment and integrity that a relationship can elevate to.>>>

-- it's too high a mark to hit for just about anyone.  How the heck do we know when we have absolute love and committment?  We don't which is why so many marraiges fail - because we're constantly evolving as people - not always in the same direction or even the same path.  I just wanted to know if any providers had done one of these 'long term' committments with a regular and if so - wasn't that exactly like a marraige?

I remember your other post, Albert, and I'd be crushed if my ATF had told me that bit of news.  But it just sheds light of what's really going on here - it's sex for money.  Companionship for money.  You may have loved this girl but when push came to shove - she chose what was really important to her - independence.  With no 'love under foot' it allows the girl more freedom to continue her life without the negatives of everyday life with a partner - a partner that will by nature take away some of her independant spirit.  It's the best of all worlds for her.  And it doesn't matter if he's 14 years older - and that's really not that much older when you're talking some of these girls are 24 years young.  A 38 year old man is just reaching his career prime - finally settled with enough money to not only pay his bills, but those of someone he has obviously fallen for as well.  And his being married keeps him at bay - she gets him when he can get away and then she gets the best of him.  And he gets the best of her.  It's a constant, never ending honeymoon.  As dangerous as heroine and just as addictive.  It's certainly my drug of choice these days...  

Because of our PM chats together, I know where you're going and already have an idea of your thoughts, etc.
I still separate 'marriage' with these 'other relationships'. In marriage, you share a bed, and wake up together (usually). You have joint bank accounts, and family gatherings; children, and grandchildren. There are many things that are in a marriage that aren't in these 'other' arrangements.
Yes, perhaps the expectations are too high. There are perhaps 3 couples - only THREE in all the years I've been on this Earth - that I think have a good marriage. They all have these things in common: they are best friends. They can say whatever they want to each other and be accepted. They are completely honest. They have each other's best interests at heart, seek to fulfill the dreams of their partners, and put their mates'needs above their own. They love each other for who they are as a person and see them as beautiful at all times. There's such an unconditional love between them that there's no fear or stress over a little weight gain, loss of hair, no makeup, snoring, morning breath, loss of employment, health problems - whatever. It just doesn't matter. It's the security of knowing that your partner would never hurt you, compromise you in any way, and would be there if you were seriously ill or anything. Just KNOWING that in your heart makes all the difference in the world. It's a different kind of love, and it's the kind of love that can take you through many years. It's a true partnership; a true friendship. Just as with our friends, how many are true friends? How many can you call at 3 am and say you need to talk and they'd say your place or mine? If you're like most, you can count them on one hand. It's the depth of the relationship. Mel, dear, you'd know..you'd know.
Sure, we're changing all the time; we're evolving all the time, but don't you have that one friend that you can call after all these years and 'pick up where you left off' just like always, and don't you both know you can?
You'd know..

Warmest hugs,
Sedona

I found out since telling two of my best buddies what I was doing - mainly seeing a girl I had paid -- that they have suddenly become saints in their own eyes.  I had always been the ear to turn to when any of them had problems, to give advice but mostly to accept them even when I knew they weren't entirely stable in their thinking.  But now... you'd think they were servants for God's mighty moral majority.  So I'm in this moment alone.  I've been warned, lectured and scolded that nothing good can come out of a relationship with a woman that has sold her body.  Not entirely within this subject context, I know, but a warning just the same -- guys -- never tell your friends.

Penn & Teller have this great program on Showtime called "Bullshit" on Friday nights, in which they investigate a range of con artists, that is those who take advantage of people who believe in alien abductions, alternative therapies, psychics etc.

In one setup, Penn & Teller were dressed in business suits lying on their stomachs on tables being massaged by two women. At the end of the setup, Penn rolls over on his back, and inquires about a "full body" massage. You have to admire Penn - pretty gutsy for him to virtually announce on TV that he's had "massages" before.