I think some regular guys are very judgmental because to them the women who are escorting, sugar dating could be their future wives, at least in their minds.
Meanwhile, I noticed myself and other guys who can make the strict distinction. In our minds, these are the women to have fun with and maybe I could go to a very conservative country to find a wife..etc. If I chose to.
What do you guys think? I want to hear you in-depth thoughts.
At least 3 gals I've met have told me that some guys started to ask about marrying at some time or another. What's more, one of those guys is I.*
*grammatically correct, by the way.
Me object to the preposition!!!
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However, I is the predicate nominative.
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mrfisher is grammatically correct.
At least 3 gals I've met have told me that some guys started to ask about marrying at some time or another. What's more, one of those guys is I.*
*grammatically correct, by the way.
I do think some guys have trouble distinguishing the difference. Personally I think I'm kinda in the middle. Intellectually I know if I see an escort it's just a business transaction. But at the same time it's by the very nature a very intimate one. I do think real feelings can and do develop. Sometimes they're mutual, but probably mostly one sided. There's some girls I wish I had met under different circumstances, others I had a good time with but just scratched an itch.
There are three basic type of SD/mongers IMO.
One type puts sex workers and SB's up on a pedestal and basically worships them as "goddesses" which is a very unhealthy view IMO. These guys tend to be the ones falling in love with hookers who are only doing their job and providing a very good IOP (Illusion of Passion)
The second type looks down on all sex workers as whores, damaged goods, sluts, and not capable of having any real feelings for a man, and certainly not worthy of any decent man's love. This is an equally unhealthy outlook IMO and is usually based in misogyny.
And then there is the third type, which is where I happen to fall where hookers/SB's/Strippers et al are just "women" who happen to make their living selling sex which doesn't make them any better or any worse than a woman who does something else for a living.
I take it you don't think that sex workers "deserve" to have any REAL relationships in their lives, and that you would never actually date one of these "fallen women" because you are somehow superior to them??? If you want to go to a "conservative country" in order to find a wife I think that speaks volumes about you and nothing about the sex workers that you are intentionally or unintentionally insulting in your OP.
To address your last point. I did not say that what sex workers do with their lives is their business, I am not judging them. Rather. I have noticed some guys have these mindset. That we'll I have have fun with the sex workers and if they want a long term monogamous relationships with a more "traditional" woman I will go to a conservative country to do so. I don't necessary believe this. However, I have noticed some guys do follow this reasoning. Like they get married to their college GF or woman from a conservative Asian country but see escorts on the side..etc.
I'm mostly restating what I've heard from other guys.
You certainly seem to be putting your self in with those who only see hookers as passing play mates while a serious relationship would be looked for elsewhere.
Guys that want traditional wives certainly should look for them in traditional places. Since we aren't supposed to be judgmental, why judge guys who want traditional wives? (Hint: People who say don't be judgmental really mean only THEY should be allowed to be judgmental.)
Hello Sir,
Indeed, as a Provider I've been asked to marry several times, when
I first started in the biz about six years ago.
I've found that the lines become blurred in the minds of Clients &/0r
Providers when the tryst(s) are so amazing that they're blinded by
the ecstasy...... and for said Providers....blinded by the money!
I actually posted a thread a couple weeks ago, with regards to this
very query of yours.... So to expound on my reply, I'll simply recycle my
original thoughts:
"How many of you "Providers" are here in the P4P World to not only
make money, but also to find your "Savior", "Your Knight-in-Shining-Armour",
or "Mr. Save-a-Hoe"? (lol no disrespect to any of us!)
Perhaps you desire to get married, have children, and live that "white picket
fence" fantasy? (if you're not already betrothed)
0r do you just need a wealthy Prince to sweep you off your feet?
How many Clients here are actually "lookin'-for-love-in-all-the-wrong-places"?
Do you find yourself seeking a partner for a permanent relationship being
drawn to P4P women or strippers?
Is it just a dalliance to add excitement to your otherwise dull sex-life?
Do you think the P4P lady will provide this same excitement, day-after-day
if you're in a committed relationship?
Could you trust each other implicitly?
The common saying rings very true; "the way you meet them, is the way you
lose them!"
Do yourself a favor Luvs..... There shall be "dangerous curves ahead" whilst living
this "fantasy" .... for real.
I encourage all to learn "mental compartmentalization" whilst hiring Providers, and
whilst seeing Clients.
This technique will greatly afford persons like yourselves, whom think for a long-term
honest relationship to flourish, that it can be had with the aforementioned.
As a Provider, for the last six years +, I compartmentalize my "work life", from my
personal life, and from all of the other facets of my being.
For example.... I've told myself "sex is just sex".... "it isn't love".
(Nor quite frankly do I care about "being in love" these days anyway.)
No matter how great the tryst, and the single or {married} Client's technique,
personality, looks, bank account, and whatever,.... He's a Client and I'm the "Transaction".
I became a Provider for many reasons, one of which, was I enjoy sex, making others feel
good and I have bills to pay!
If you love having sex with Clients, and Providers, then face the reality very quickly,
"the sex and the accouterments are just a role/service which is part of our job description",
nothing more.
Sure, we all say things in-the-heat-of-passion or do things in light of the euphoria.
But one must always remember it is within the throes of pleasure. It's not always "reality".
However out-of-the-boudoir, reverting to the compartmentalized Person/Client/Provider
is best served in one's daily life, keeping it simple, without the unnecessary "dangerous curves"! "
Regards,
Angelina Jones
How many clients here are actually "lookin'-for-love-in-all-the-wrong-places"?
Do you find yourself seeking a partner for a permanent relationship being drawn to P4P women or strippers?
Is it just a dalliance to add excitement to your otherwise dull sex life?
Do you think the P4P lady will provide this same excitement, day-after-day if you two were in a committed relationship?
Could you trust each other implicitly?
The common saying rings very true; "the way you meet them is the way you lose them!"
Regards,
Angelina Jones
--- I can't raise my hand and claim this one, because it doesn't describe me accurately, lol. In my case, it's more like I'm looking for lust, not love.
Do you find yourself seeking a partner for a permanent relationship being drawn to P4P women or strippers?
--- Nope, nothing permanent for me, please.
Is it just a dalliance to add excitement to your otherwise dull sex life?
--- Absolutely it is!
Do you think the P4P lady will provide this same excitement, day-after-day if you two were in a committed relationship?
--- Nope, not only do I not think that, I'm not even looking for any committed relationship. The sexual excitement I seek and find in P4P isn't even a day-after-day thing for me, based on how I space out the times I see escorts. I might have long bouts of zero excitement about P4P, sometimes lasting hours, or days, or weeks. Also, there's a certain amount of excitement and anticipation that build up during the hunt and in the days and hours leading up to a session I've planned. For instance, when I'm doing my P4P homework/research and adding women to my to-do list, or while going through the names already on my to-do list, or after booking a session to take place in the next few days, or the night before a session, the excitement builds.
Could you trust each other implicitly?
--- Nope, but then again, I'm not looking for implicit trust the way it might exist in a committed relationship or is supposed to exist in a committed relationship. I'm not often disappointed when something unexpected happens between an escort and me, because I don't invest in a deep level of trust.
four months ago. Why didn't you respond then while others were still interested in this thread, too?
You and PAlaw need to get together LOL
and I do this just to not end up not having done it and not to miss what I would have missed and because it's good, normal and natural or whatever.
I would go to a conservative country and get a wife that wears a burka or whatever but I think they're too weird. It would end up in divorce, if there is such a thing or one of us would have to die by stoning or something.
I'll just keep at this for life. It's all I know.
In reality....... I really don't think that there are men or women who can take a moment say to themselves "Is this just a Sugar/Escort Date or Is this My future Husband/Wife?" Most just think of it being a one way street so to speak.
I think some regular guys are very judgmental because to them the women who are escorting, sugar dating could be their future wives, at least in their minds.
Meanwhile, I noticed myself and other guys who can make the strict distinction. In our minds, these are the women to have fun with and maybe I could go to a very conservative country to find a wife..etc. If I chose to.
What do you guys think? I want to hear you in-depth thoughts.
Two, I don't know if I fall into your vague category of "regular guys". I'm on this website and I participate in P4P for a simple reason: I like getting laid by various women and I pay for it because it cuts to the chase. I'm not dating the women I see in the P4P life. I'm not weeding them out to see which one might eventually be my life partner, because I'm not looking for a life partner. I'm not looking for a wife in this or any other country, conservative or otherwise.
So, in summary, using your own judgements, you've introduced two very narrow alternatives to describe what you assume to be the makeup of the clients in this game. I contend that there are far more possibilities and probabilities of who clients are than those you presented, especially since I know that I personally don't fall under either of them. Many other guys might not fall under them either.
but I never confuse that with a "tryst" with an escort. They are fundamentally different, with far different boundaries and premises.
This is not to say that such a "tryst" with an escort cannot develop further; they can and do. These situations are unlikely, but they happen.
I believe you take it too far when you say "these are the women to have fun with". Women are women, neither good, bad nor deserving of such potentially misogynistic judgments.
I say let the situation and possibilities flow and develop, but remain grounded in the boundaries and premises of the basic contract between escort and client.
The more you date someone
I’m open to marrying someone if it happens (did).
I've definitely had admirers jokingly talk about marriage because it's obvious I love to please and have a bubbly personality. But sugaring an escorting are very different things.
As a sugar baby, I would get very low offers like 500 or so and I always had to spend a night with a sugar daddy. Basically these men were searching for a desperate young women to manipulate. It extremely hard these days to find a sugar daddy that actually likes to spoil a woman.
Whereas an escort should be treated as a professional. Her rates are set, it's by the hour and you can have an amazing time with her no strings attached and trust that she'll be discreet. I love being an escort because my admirers love to spoil me, care about my pleasure as well and always want to make sure I have a nice time. It's a win win.
I've had a couple of clients who got way too attached and I had to cut contact because that's not what I'm looking for.