How common is it for a provider to have an orgasm (a real one), and how common is it for a provider to fake an orgasm?  Does anyone see having a real orgasm as essential to a true GFE experience or to someone becoming an ATF?

At one time I believed that many providers actually had "REAL ONES" with me ... but after some very interesting conversations with friends I would say that more, much more are Faked than actual ... it's all about dollars ...... I would even wager that many hobbies who have an ATF don't really know 100% for sure if their ATF truely cums or not .... it's all in the game and they play it very very well ...... hobby safe hobby well hobby all you can be ....... my .02

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I expect many Ladies have real orgasms if they enjoy the man they’re with.  I can’t see why this wouldn’t be the case.  If they don’t (for whatever reason), then probably not.

I also expect that often they fake things because that’s what many men want to stroke their egos.  Personally, I prefer they don’t fake things.  I know there are times I don’t reach orgasm, but that doesn’t mean I didn’t thoroughly enjoy my time with the Lady.

As to GFE, I don’t really believe it matters.  A GFE, whatever that really means, is almost all in the guy’s head, not in the Lady’s body.  As to an ATF, again a term that is best left undefined, I expect that her orgasm isn’t a prerequisite for an “ATF”, but more likely the result of two people really enjoying being with each other.  And in one fashion or another, I think THAT is required for an ATF.

How long since she had one? Does she 'dig' you? What's on her mind today...rent due?

Yes, sometimes providers cum and cum BIG. Mostly all providers like to cum. In fact most like sex.

BUT, Sex for pleasure and sex for money are very different. Chances are you are getting sex for money. That's what she's into with you.

So, enjoy the fantasy and try to believe this time she 'really did cum'.

Cergio

Rspectfully disagree.  An ATF simply makes you feel the best.  Sometimes they are just nice company.  Doesn't really matter what she feels unless of course one of your criterias for seeling good is that she feels good.

GFE relates more in my mind to how she behaves around you.  Whether or not she has an orgasm is probably immaterial too.

REAL MEN don't care!

From whatever I have heard from others, and including myself: real orgasms? Of course! All the time!
Commonly faked? Probably quite a bit. I don't like faking anything and agree with OT - sometimes you do, sometimes you don't but it certainly doesn't mean you didn't enjoy or that the other party 'failed'. So, no, I don't fake orgasms but it is commonly done, mostly to make the men feel they've 'done good and accomplished the goal'.
Orgasms don't have anything to do with whether she's GFE or not. Heck, does your wife or GF have an orgasm every single time? But, I DO agree with Fort that GFE should have certain things on the menu to qualify her as GFE (other posting).
I've said this before and I'll say it again - being a Provider has definitely increased the ease of orgasms, the frequencies and intensities of my orgasms as well as more frequent MULTIPLE orgasms! Go guys!

I notice that providers are silent on this subject.  Maybe it's best we don't know.

Obviously, it depends on the provider and the session.  I began seeing my current favorite a short time after she entered the business when she was still very naive and rather young (20).  I think it was on our third visit that she had her first orgasm with me and she was quite pleased and surprised.  Her orgasms became more frequent and now they happen at every session, sometimes more than once, sooner but with less intensity.  We have become very close (I have become sort of a coach and friend), and a few months ago she told me that she now has orgasms with almost every client she sees who treat her nicely(sometimes 3 or 4 a day).  That made me feel less special, but I was happy to hear how much she has come to enjoy the business.  A few weeks later she told me that she tries to hide her orgasms from most of her clients because she does not want to distract. I think I now have her convinced that most men love to bring their sexual partners, including or especially the "pros", to orgasm and are more likely to return to those responsive partners for more sessions. She becomes extremely horny after taking a few days off; I really like seeing her then because it is more like in the beginning of the relationship.
   I remain in friendly relationships with several retired SPs who confide that they often had great orgasms with some clients, while faking them with others, and some who say they never had orgasms, but loved the sex nonetheless.

I can have a orgaaaaaaaazim every three days....YUM...

Corey Edwards, PhD Sexology

I suspect the above post may just be a flip, casual comment
meant to be slightly humerous but then again it may be stated in all seriousness.

I doubt that many men would think their manhood would be called into question if they actually cared that the woman they are with experienced an orgasm. It brings me pleasure to know that I have brought my partner pleasure, it's very erotic.

Of course with a provider it may just be a part of the fantasy
she presents

Handle orgasm and let the provider worry about her own orgasm

think about it ...  the minute you cum you (sorta) lose interest in sex ... or at least require 15-30mins before you can get "interested" again ... most often you're way too sensitive to even want your partner touching your "naughty bits"  (reference anyone?

all the things you do BEFORE cumming is the phun stuff ... orgasms are like an involuntary brain seizure, a clumsy release at the end of an otherwise methodical sensational lustful quest for pleasure ...  it's the journey that matters, not the destination

i very often enjoy sex with providers without coming ... there are a variety of factors ... sometimes you just get psyched out (like standing next to a guy at a urinal in a crowded men's room!) and sometimes the girl just doesn't do it for you

one of my favs who i see regularly can't come period (with any client) and we have fun just the same (frankly quite often with her i can't either but for different reasons) but it's never been a problem (frankly i'm beginning to suspect she prefers me not coming since there's no mess and no risks of a certain sort)

finally, NOT coming (or at least putting it off indefinitely) is all part of "tantric sex" ...

I have my best orgasms right after my client leaves. I'm still in the afterglow of sex and his SCENT is enough for me to touch myself anywhere and explode!

name-that-movie line .... anyone?

Maybe because I am still new to the industry or maybe simply because this is truly something I ENJOY... and of course the fact that I crave sex almost every second of the day, but I have had an orgasm with nearly every client I have been with so far.

 Something about being sexual with a stranger is enough to make me wet.... actually living that fantasy... well, it makes this just as much a habby for me as it is for you!!


 Kisses,
  Felisha

Can I watch?  (Can I help?)  

"Naughty bits"...I think it was Monty Python, but it may have been another BBC comedy.

I don't remember the "Sex with someone I love" line, but it sounds like something that Woody Allen would say (like in "Hannah And Her Sisters", where Mia Farrow suggests he might be sterile because of "excessive masturbation", and he says "What...you're going to go knocking my hobbies now?").

You get a point in my book, pal, for the bit about the men's bathroom.  Nice to see someone else doesn't cotton to being treated as an animal undeserving of privacy just because he is male.

Great post, by the way.

it's ANNIE HALL  ...  and yes ... Python indeed  

It's kind of sad that your partner doesn't get to share in your pleasure and enjoy the "fruits of his/your labor"
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She squirts and squirts and screams and you and the bed r wondering where your life jackets are. love your squirting mistress.

I don't see my SO on a daily basis, it's more like 3 days on and 10 days off because I travel so much but believe me, he's knows how to rock my world!

I orgasm.  I like to have orgasms.  I don't fake them.  If it's important to you that I have one you need to tell me because for me it requires a shift in thinking.  I am thinking, "What does he want?  Does he want that to happen fast or slow?  Does he like it drawn out or immediate? etc. etc.  ..."  I am thinking about your pleasure firstly and it turns me on to do so.  When I'm thinking like that my orgasm is secondary.  Which is not to say that I'm not enjoying what I'm doing.  I'm a process oriented person.  I like the process.  If you tell me that you would like for me to "get off."  I will shift my thinking and think of that first and you second.  Am I strange?

LJ