I had 2 situations this week that I wish I could take back. Both providers I met with are using very old pictures that hide their faces. When the door opened I almost just turned and walked the other way. I always try to find something beautiful about all woman but there was nothing even close to being attractive for these ladies. Two visits in the same week, I just could not believe my bad luck. I went thru with both visitis, perhaps two of my worse visits I have ever had in 2 years of the hobby.
These are not subjective evaluations ladies and gentlemen, both ladies were much older, had faces that were damaged by years of smoking and sun exposure and acne scars. Their bodies were in no way close to their pics.
What would you do, turn and walk if an incall or ask them to leave if an outcall?
Thats why I like incall. its so much easier to just walk away than to try to convince her to leave. If she throws a fit as you walk away, so what? Its HER neighborhood she is disturbing. Regardless, i've gone through with incall a few times when I COULD have justified walking away. I was spun up and ready to go and I made the decision that going ahead was the better option.
My .02
MVR
just turn around and leave, easier said than done right? You have to basically tell someone ready to have sex with you that you do not find them attractive. So it's difficult but I think it's worse to go ahead with it and pretend you find them attractive. I have not been in this situation, but I hope if I am I will have the courage to say sorry this is isn't going to work for me, hell women do it all the time, but they are usually nice about it. That's the key I suppose.
I have a fetish for ugly women, so I have that going for me. But I have also discovered that an unattractive women becomes more attractive as you get to know them. If you take 10 minutes to talk to them like human beings, it is amazing how much more approachable they become. And that 10 minutes may be all they get in real conversation, so you might become a little less ugly too. Who knows, they might credit you the 10 minutes. Ok, that's getting a little unrealistic, I know. But we can dream, damn it.
If you're walking on the wild side, I would have the ladies pictures on your iphone or blackberry. Show them to her and then say, "sorry this isn't going to work for me you look nothing like this picture" As long as clients continue to see ladies with old pics that look nothing like them, the ladies will continue to use them. If you feel guilty then give her something, if you don't feel guilty just walk. Side question, did the recent reviews indicate the pictures were old and deceiving?
Great idea! I would look at my phone and say, "Sorry, I have the wrong house and walk away".
...and you continuing with the visit is encouraging her to continue misrepresenting herself to the rest of the community. You owe it to yourself and to your fellow practitioners to NOT subsidize their bad behavior. Whether they are attractive or not isn't the main issue -- that's quite subjective and has been beat to death in this forum. What ISN'T subjective is the fact that they are not giving you full information with which to make an informed decision.
Would you tolerate this type of behavior in any other commercial forum?
I don't see a reference in your post to whether or not you have (or will be) submitting reviews on your two "worse visits" -- that's where you can state your case, warn your fellow hobbiests and call out these frauds.
Turn around and just say NO -- you'll feel much better about the situation; post a warning on your local board and let's bring up the quality of how people treat one another.
You went through with the appointment? Both of them?
Let me guess, you're not going to write an honest review about either one of them because you are afraid of being blackmailed?
Listen, whatever they are doing, using old pics, whatever, its working, cause guys like you continue to buy into their deceptive ways.
I dont blame them, I blame YOU!
Now go write two honest reviews and quit bitching to us about something you had complete and total control over but chose not to walk away.
There is alot of truth in what you are saying.
While it may be unconfortable to deal with the situation when the door opens and you are unpleasantly surprised, you must either a) deal with it immediately and directly and don't go through with the appointment, or accept it while recognizing you are making that choice on your own with full knowledge of what you are doing.
The hobby doesn't lend itself to the same types of recourse or aftermath as other business transactions. Hobbyists improve the state of the hobby for themselves and providers with integrity by not rewarding the deceptive ones with an envelope. And viceversa
HalfHour
Not turning around and walking would be as ridiculous as staying married to a wife I was tired of.
Some guys don't have the gonads to say whats on their mind.
"Hobbyists improve the state of the hobby for themselves, AND providers with integrity, by not rewarding the deceptive ones with an envelope."
I couldnt agree with you more.
Guys, PLEASE just walk away. I realize it easier said than done, but you are just compounding the problem by going through with it.
And for the love of God, if you dont have the balls to walk away, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, at least WRITE A REVIEW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Jesus Christo! The ladies I've seen are fucking hot! I read their reviews, talk with them beforehand, and have friends in the industry that tell me 'yeh' or 'nay' before I even make a date. Shit!
There are very few I will consider seeing without their stamp of approval. And I'm talking ladies that don't NEED to go thru my processes. A few names come to mind.....
Hey, they screen us, right?
So fuck yeah! If I'm going to hand out $$$ or so for their time, I'm making damn sure I'm getting what I want.
And we should screen them. But if that screening should fail us men need to have the balls to walk. I never seen a lady in the hobby that didn't look like her picture but if I did I would not even think of staying. Guess what I screen and so I know the ladies I see are on the up and up. I guess some guys are not smart enough to screen and just go off pictures. Then I guess some guys are lacking the balls to walk if things are not as advertised. Everyone, both the providers and the hobbyists, should screen there dates and have the guts to leave if things are not right. If you do not it is your own fault and you deserve what you get. Why do people reward bad behavior? It is why there is so many cons in the hobby. If we don't see them they will go away.
the reviews rather than just look at the pics. If the reviews made references to out-of-date pics, older than profile or web site says, etc., shame on you. Got to agree with MP above, it is your hard-earned cash, don't settle for something that doesn't measure up.
WALK AWAY! No apologies, no excuses, just look her in the eye, tell her she isn't the girl she advertised, and leave.
1. You encourage women to continue to go for quich and easy bucks by misrepresenting themselves. She doesn't give a crap if you were happy or not. She got paid, and that's all she cares about.
2. At the same time, she just took money away from a legitimate lady who would otherwise have gotten your attention. Reward the ladies who are legitimate and represent themselves fairy and accurately, and STOP rewarding bad behavior!
Now that you've learned your lesson (hopefully) write an honest review, so that other gents will know not to expect the lady in the pictures.
If so I would think there would be a mention that the pics are old.The obvious answer is leave or if outcall tell her this is not going to work out.I would not call it bad luck because you walked through their door after seeing what these ladies look like.So,this is on you there are various ways you could have gotten out of this situation.So,trying to spare the ladies feelings caused you to have a terrible time which you should have known was going to happen.I agree as the previous replies to post reviews as long as no one says anything these ladies will continue to be misleading.Taking the time to research or reach out to a few gents if you are not too sure about the lady will save you time and being frustrated.
Next time (and hopefully there will be a next time for you), before you show up at a lady's door, have the prospective provider email you a face shot photo that is not included on her site. It's not an uncommon request. My ad does show my face, it's a decision that I am glad that I made for now. However, in the past, when my face was not so "out there", I sent my photo when it was asked for, without feeling offended. Hey, you gotta know what you're getting (at least get close to having an good idea!)...
And then, if you're not pleased with her look, well, that's why we advertise. Free market. That's like Mc Donalds having an ad for a juicy new burger, only they just have a shot of the bun and fries, maybe some garnish in there somewhere!
These are not subjective evaluations ladies and gentlemen, both ladies were much older, had faces that were damaged by years of smoking and sun exposure and acne scars. Their bodies were in no way close to their pics.
What would you do, turn and walk if an incall or ask them to leave if an outcall?
and your advertising is very effective, too bad it's more than a day's drive from the Mohave Desert to Minnesota
It's not frozen Tundra yet! Gotta love us Northern Girls. "they keep our boyfriends warm at night".