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I don't return phone calls left on my voicemail after a day. I am always afraid it will intrude or be a bad time.
I deleted 27 VM and I was wondering if I passed up all those clients because i never called back.
I always thought they will call back if they still want to see me.
But what if they wanted me to call and since i couldn't get to them in a timely manner. They think I blew them off?
Maybe I should hire someone from a temp agency to help with my calls.
I hate emails because I am so busy I always miss those clients and it's irratating to know I mised those opportunities.
I used to have an assistant who answered the phone when I was busy , returned emails, and could give the guy directions while I was busy.
But having an employee is stressful.
I decided I'm just not willing to endure stress for the big money.
So how in how many days if any can you call someone back?
I don't know if I should be texting them instead or is that worse?

If I had placed a call to you I would wonder why you never called back (was I not good enough);) In my opinion a simple text saying sorry I missed your call please call again would be perfect.But only if I left my number in a voice mail. I wouldn't call back a number that just shows up on your phone.

If the guy said specifically that it's okay to call anytime. In those cases, yes, it will seem to them like you just blew them off. If a guy gives you a best time to call, or not to call, if you can, you should at least try to return the call.

If a lady hasn't gotten back to me within the first day or so, I will try one follow up email. If I haven't heard back by the next day, I figure that she is not interested, and I move on.

This is the part I hate about the hobby the most. Calling or emailing and then waiting for a reply.
I completely realize that providers are busy, and have to shuffle many things day to day. And stuff breaks sometimes and SPAM filters filter messages.
I also am the kind of guy who hates to put on any pressure on a provider, so I have a hard time sending a follow up email. I should probably start though since i have a few beautiful ladies on my list that I would really like to see.
Personally I always leave a safe contact method and all info requested by the provider, so I don't think that is an issue in my case.  
Sorry for rambling

has bitten me in the ass a couple of times. Just when I figured that a lady was not interested, and I had made other arrangements, I get an email from the first lady, telling me that she'd love to see me. Then, I have to write back and explain to her that I'm an impatient asshole.

That is exactly what I am talking about, and with my luck that is what invariably happens. I have started to try to make plans a few weeks out so I can make alternate plans if necessary.

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then I move on. I realize that many of the women are busy, might have personal issues, are tied up with a 2nd job, etc, so I give them the 4 day leeway. After that time period, which I think is reasonable, it looks to me like it ain't gonna happen, so I search elsewhere.

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So many guys are newbies...  don't know to expect to go to VM!  So are unprepared.  Do they expect you're just sitting by the phone?!

I would suggest your message only include your number (as was suggested)...  a statement "I will only return your call if you say it's ok to do so..."  
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Although many clients take measures to protect against indiscreet return calls (e.g., use an anonymous cell phone for P4P and don't have it turned on when around the SO or colleagues at work), not all do.  A good rule of thumb is: never return a call unless the client has explicitly specified that it's OK to do so AND when is safe (or POSSIBLY if you just missed him, say, within 5 or 10 minutes).  

Otherwise there's too great a risk that you will call back when he could be overhead by someone he doesn't want to know about.  If he doesn't answer the phone, that creates suspicion.  If he does answer, what he says may create suspicion.  Worse yet, if he's really careless, that phone # may be answered by someone else and/or leave YOUR # on caller id.

Personally, I don't like the indiscreet nature of a phone call, easily overhead, so I almost always use email (or occasionally a text) instead.  But then, I'm usually scheduling ahead so they'll have had time to receive and read the message.

Some guys take into account that the lady may not always return voicemail or email and will try again.  For me, though, since I use email primarily, if I don't hear back from you -- maybe not immediately but certainly within a day or three -- I almost never will try again, ever.  If you're too disorganized to respond to email, what are the odds you've mastered other requirements of P4P, like showing up for our tryst on time?

That's cool.  You should avoid business practices that cause you too much stress.

Similarly, it causes me stress to contact someone if it appears unlikely that I'll hear back from her.  I may not blame her for it, but neither do I contact her again.  That way we both can be stress free. :)

I hope this does not come off the wrong way, but if you missed that many calls I would not say that is good business on your part. If you were with your family or something, sure I can understand that but you should put a time such as "I answer my calls and emails from 12-12, so be sure to call then if you want a response."

How else are we to know. If a girl does not return my call or email that same day, I blow her off usually and move on to the next, so yes she missed out on my money.

You do have it right, not to just call back anytime though, because most of us are looking for something "now" or at least that same day. If you take same day appts. most of us will expect a call back immediately if you advertise yourself as "on the clock."

If you can't get to your calls and emails you are losing money and also risk getting reviews that say, "Not punctual" "Did not return calls" not professional" etc.

My advice is to have a vacation response or auto response made out so that if you can't get to a client, at least we know where we stand. If you are doing most of your business over the phone, I would have a phone like we do(hobby phone) that you can leave a message to say whaterver you want, to let us know what the deal is.

Hope that makes sense.

I always let the lady know if I need to hear from her by a certain time. Most often, since I have a phone for this specifically, I tell her so, and she is free to call me at anytime.

I more often use email since I 'travel to play' and need to plan weeks in advance. Not getting a response back from an email request (just tell me 'Sorry I am not available then" I can handle it) is more irksome than not hearing back via phone for a date a week in advance. Oneo f the reasons I like re-visiting ladies I've had the pleasure of meeting is their contact 'turn-around' time is consistent.

As for texting? I would only do that if that is how you were contacted by them.

and if a provider has  a well designed "contact" form on her website I'll gladly use it.

If I do have to call, I usually leave a message to text me back at her convenience. That way her call does not interrupt a meeting or come at a time when I cannot have the discussion.

Cheers

GTM

you could call back at a specific time of day or at any time at all? he may have a dedicated hobby cell phone.

to make initial contact via e-mail is for the convenience of both the lady and myself.  Guys that have been around for a while know to leave a window of time for you to call back.  Anything beyond that time period should be deleted.

up on returning calls.
But I have been tossing the messages at the end of the day.

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