I have two stories, and I'll try to keep them short, which will be followed up by my question.
There was once a provider I saw on a regular, and one day she told me about her other provider friend, and suggest I should try her out at least once. Well I did, and her friend ended up being ten times better then she is, in the looks and performance department. The orginal provider performance, had started to decline, and her provider started to pick up her performance, and they guys they both see including myself, have flocked to better provider. Now the 1st provider's, openly upset about this, because she feels her friend is stealing her clients from her.
On a different note, it's another provider I see also on a regular. One day after a session between us two, I notice she also had a provider friend she travels with, and saw one of their outfits in the room. I was impressed by only the 1st glance, I saw in her provider friend. I then made, asked about checking her friend out to see what she's like. The provider I see on a regular simply said, "You don't want to see her. I'm way better then she is". Grant it I do see this provider a lot, and she is really good at what she does, but I knew she was this telling me this, because she didn't want someone else moving in on her funds. I found it to be a smart move on her part.
Providers have you ever dealt with the issue of a provider you know or work with, who starts to draw your regulars away from you to her? Or have you ever been the provider who figures out away to move in on anothers providers clients, and have them start to see you instead of her?
incredibly difficult to read, and while I got the drift of the post, it doth on read well. Bottom line,
Gals get jealous. End of story.
While I agree with you, cut the OP some slack. Intelligence and articulateness are not prerequisites to hiring working girls. Having money is.
Posted By: BizzaroSuperdude
incredibly difficult to read, and while I got the drift of the post, it doth on read well. Bottom line,
Gals get jealous. End of story.
The more intelligent the person the easier to read and understand writing with spelling and grammar errors.
The serious help you need is not available.
I make more referrals and recommendations to other providers and services than anyone I know and my girlfriends find this curious and ask why from time to time.
The fact is, if you are who you say you are and do what you do to the best of your ability every time (or at least 90% of the time and take care to clean up any 'off day' messes) a girl's clients will always return.
I have a very distinctive appearance and work style. Either clients who meet me walk away saying "that was pleasant, but not for me" or they go absolutely bananas, return and return often. I've found that many of my return clients BURN OUT FAST. They'll see me monthly, weekly, bi-weekly until it all gets to be too much. I have also found that offsetting this with playful suggestions of other women I'm comparable to (in appearance or performance) and who I trust will treat any client referred to them by me like gold tempers this reaction some clients have to me.
They circulate, I get a rest from them mentally, it stays fresh, my girlfriends know they can trust me, the client knows he can trust me and most of the time it results in a sexy open line of communication and lots flirting with shared stories between our romps when he meets my friends.
I seriously have yet to encounter a problem with a client deciding that he liked my suggestion so much that he just never came back...or even put a significant dent in the regularity of our relationship.
I think that this sort of thing hinges on the maturity and trustworthiness of the girls involved.
If girl A is telling you don't see girl B, her "friend" - well, girl A sounds like a low-rent bitch.
The caliber of girlfriends a provider keeps in this business is everything.
Now I share a lot of clients currently with a close friend in the market who looks and performs nothing like me save for having extremely high standards for herself. If "my" clients who were sent to her never returned to me...I'd go internal and figure out if I needed to take a break or change my appearance. I think that a lot of perceived client "poaching" has as much to do with diminished service as it does hanging out with low-budget girls with cutthroat tendencies.
Just my thoughts, hope it made sense.
If you like someone else better, go see her!
If you like me better, see me!
Why on earth would I want to spend any time with a guy who really wants to be with someone else? Ugh... that's so desperate, clingy, and insecure.... very unattractive qualities for any woman to have, much less a provider.
That's just silly to even think of it as "stealing." Paradise Bakery didn't "steal me" from Wendy's. They just have better salads!
You said it, that's why some guys hobby......variety.... if they wanted the same ole style everytime why would they ever make the initial call & it's nice to have a friend in the biz u can share with & know your clients are going to be safe.
I deal with other providers who are very jealous & cannot stand to know that a client went to see someone else & they bash the other providers....
I have to put up with other providers who I consider stealing my potential clients by advertising under my phone number, so when a client googles my phone number her ad pops up, she calls this marketting, I call it wrong cuz for several months in big letters it said beware & caution if u r going to see this provider, but come see me (her) cuz I'm highly reviewed & have 10+ years in the biz....and when u click on her link u get to see her website with her doing a porn video....
The title of your thread is misleading. It's not "stealing". A client has the right to choose to see whomever he wants. A working girl has the right to offer a compelling value proposition to clients.
Posted By: EditAlias
I have two stories, and I'll try to keep them short, which will be followed up by my question.
There was once a provider I saw on a regular, and one day she told me about her other provider friend, and suggest I should try her out at least once. Well I did, and her friend ended up being ten times better then she is, in the looks and performance department. The orginal provider performance, had started to decline, and her provider started to pick up her performance, and they guys they both see including myself, have flocked to better provider. Now the 1st provider's, openly upset about this, because she feels her friend is stealing her clients from her.
On a different note, it's another provider I see also on a regular. One day after a session between us two, I notice she also had a provider friend she travels with, and saw one of their outfits in the room. I was impressed by only the 1st glance, I saw in her provider friend. I then made, asked about checking her friend out to see what she's like. The provider I see on a regular simply said, "You don't want to see her. I'm way better then she is". Grant it I do see this provider a lot, and she is really good at what she does, but I knew she was this telling me this, because she didn't want someone else moving in on her funds. I found it to be a smart move on her part.
Providers have you ever dealt with the issue of a provider you know or work with, who starts to draw your regulars away from you to her? Or have you ever been the provider who figures out away to move in on anothers providers clients, and have them start to see you instead of her?
We are not marriedto our current Favorite provider. It is NSA "No Strings Attached" sex. It is highly unlikely that ANY client will stick to one gal indefinately.
It is nice if good providers refer to other good providers... but that's it. Providers who try to monopolize a client... had better bring their A game every single time and frankly, even my best Favorites I see a decline in performance.
Any provider who does not understand this is going to be unhappy, because clients come & go.
H
I have a few provider friends that are beautiful and yet they are so damn jealous. I have watched them tell my clients that I was sharing with them, as they are not MINE, as mentioned above, these beautiful women tell the guys they may NO LONGER SEE ME and must now see her. OMG
what is wrong with these women. They go from beautiful to disgusting when they do that.
my two cents
I've had to say goodbye to a few when I've found out a couple they have seen bbgreek, being in the biz we sometimes know secrets about other providers & I don't want to tell the reason, just say due to the bb issue I have put them on my do not accept appts with list cuz I do total gfe .....I had spoke to a young provider once & I was thinking to ask her to do a 2girl special to help her make some money & she said the reason she couldn't charge any higher than $80. was because.....I don't think I should say on here....but she had something uncureable ....So when a client tells me he can get bbgreek for $80. & knows a couple of girls who will do it for that price, I say I do too & thank you for letting me know to put u on my do not see list. P.S., that particular girl isn't on TER at least I don't ever see her pic.
Providers can be catty & nasty you know.
I openly and regulary refer my clients to other providers who I rave about. I May lose a client here and there. but there are plenty of fish in the sea.. More often then NOT I see my client again who tells me stories about ms.. So and so.. ( I LOVE IT) yes, it turns me on..
I find that this is an awful lot like marriage and other relationships ( washing my mouth out with soap as we speak) you can either be honest about it or LIE. I much prefer honesty and if you think for a second that any man or woman has not checked out the other menu on the corner then you are lying to yourself and your partner.. might as well own it and be honest and then do what works for both.. (win, win)
I will never understand female jealousy?
Posted By: EditAlias
I have two stories, and I'll try to keep them short, which will be followed up by my question.
There was once a provider I saw on a regular, and one day she told me about her other provider friend, and suggest I should try her out at least once. Well I did, and her friend ended up being ten times better then she is, in the looks and performance department. The orginal provider performance, had started to decline, and her provider started to pick up her performance, and they guys they both see including myself, have flocked to better provider. Now the 1st provider's, openly upset about this, because she feels her friend is stealing her clients from her.
On a different note, it's another provider I see also on a regular. One day after a session between us two, I notice she also had a provider friend she travels with, and saw one of their outfits in the room. I was impressed by only the 1st glance, I saw in her provider friend. I then made, asked about checking her friend out to see what she's like. The provider I see on a regular simply said, "You don't want to see her. I'm way better then she is". Grant it I do see this provider a lot, and she is really good at what she does, but I knew she was this telling me this, because she didn't want someone else moving in on her funds. I found it to be a smart move on her part.
Providers have you ever dealt with the issue of a provider you know or work with, who starts to draw your regulars away from you to her? Or have you ever been the provider who figures out away to move in on anothers providers clients, and have them start to see you instead of her?
An ATF disappeared on me a while back, I saw her GF, she still holds this against me!
The gentlemen are free to see who they like, whenever they like. As such, one cannot "steal" from another. They may successfully seduce a man, and he may wander, and perhaps leave his original companion altogether - however it would be naive and even idiotic to expect monogamy.
My longest running client has seen me for six years, if he found someone who made him happier, I would wish him all the best. Yes, I would quietly hope for his return while attempting to maintain a semblance of warmth and friendship within his defined boundaries.
No self respecting provider would view her companionship through this lens.
some of the best times I have had have been with providers suggested by a current provider. If a lady cant suggest a friend without becoming territorial, ATF or not, its time to move on IMHO.
From then on, we are in a committed adulterous* relationship and there will be no cheating!!!
*oxymoron intended...
Does that ceremonial spit come before or after the secret pinkie swear handshake?
Posted By: sexyangelique69
From then on, we are in a committed adulterous* relationship and there will be no cheating!!!
*oxymoron intended...
But damn, it does take a lot of spit to make them mine!
Posted By: MSHSEX
Does that ceremonial spit come before or after the secret pinkie swear handshake?
Posted By: sexyangelique69
From then on, we are in a committed adulterous* relationship and there will be no cheating!!!
*oxymoron intended...
LOL. Fair enough.
Posted By: sexyangelique69
But damn, it does take a lot of spit to make them mine!
Posted By: MSHSEX
Does that ceremonial spit come before or after the secret pinkie swear handshake?
Posted By: sexyangelique69
From then on, we are in a committed adulterous* relationship and there will be no cheating!!!
*oxymoron intended...
As other ladies have stated, you cannot "steal" someone's else's client. They are in this for variety, a few keep a few ATF, but for the most part, it's about variety. When I'm not in town, I will suggest another lady in Madison that I think they may like & I have had ladies do the same for me. If you introduce a client to a provider friend, & he decides to start seeing her instead of you, SHE didn't "steal" him, either she is doing something you weren't or they just "clicked" better.
Businesses do it all the time... but it's not "stealing", it's usually a case of the other offering better services, or they just get along better, it comes with the business & you cannot be offended by it. I use to use H&R Block, until I found a private company that offered the same services, but more personal & for half the price... why wouldn't I switch? Yes, this is a completely different situation, but it is still a business.
I've got a first date with a new lady lined up in a week, and in one of our back & forth emails, she recommended a friend of hers! Now that's a real girlfriend! My date is very hot and highly reviewed, and her friend looks just as hot! I love this hobby! (but I try to avoid the nasty, clingy ladies - they can be scary)
A guy isn't faithful to his own wife how the hell does a provider expect faithfulness?
anyway
I had a best friend. I used to send guys to her all the time. Many many many times that was the last time I saw them. Turns out a lot of them, she got hooked on drugs. I used to advertise friend of Bill and then stupidly sent my friends of Bill to an addict.
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Some of the guys thinks she performs better but a whole bunch came back complaining about the drugs and also saying she was not all that she thinks she is.
when I tell a guy they wouldn't like a gal. I am sure they wouldn't want to be put in the positions that that gal would put the guy in.
Had to learn the hard way about this. So you might want to ask meaningful questions with topics like
drugs, type of boyfriends, type of arrests if any, and what have you.
I simply and only send one certain type of man to her these days, they must have a desire for drama and trouble though her reviews are or were pretty good I am sure they will catch up with her in time.
Thats my two cents.
other than to say and it comes from being around for a LOT of years
In order to steal my clients you would have to lie to them about me. Because if you see me with regularity I am very open and honest and you already know what is true about me and a lie that makes me look real bad, bad enough to keep you away from me wont stand investigation.
Renee
This is a competitive field. Either handle your men well or someone else will. I haven't worked with anyone so haven't had to deal with this but I Always bring my A-game. If he finds someone better, I need to meet her and take notes. No point of being jealous or overly confident...do your best and you will get what is deserved.
I have another provider who actually advertises under my phone number.....She calls it marketing, but....her ad used to say, Caution this provider may be the police, proceed with caution...., she directs u to click on her ad for her verification.
This was when I was new, I had been working for 2 1/2 months my phone ringing non-stop I couldn't even return all the calls, then all of a sudden not a single phone call not one, even the regulars got scared & wouldn't call anymore (a couple still called asking for 1/2 price which i found out she was doing these special prices for them so I said goodbye to them they were wanting bb & I figured with them being so cheap I might be putting myself at risk) & some out of towners would call, it took a couple months for me to find out about the ad....she left the ad up but changed the wording so that it didn't say I was....but that she verified me......she promised to take the ad down completely but my phone started to ring non-stop again!!!! Many of those clients said they were going to see me but they saw her ad about my being.....so they went to her instead....
So she realized she needed to keep advertising under my phone number but use a little more effort now to get their attention...So now u google me, her ad pops up directs u to click on it to see her new porn video, & her busted files...
I used to send her clients, until I realized she was two faced (& alot of clients said they were unhappy w/her).
I think when someone is 10+years in the biz, they shouldn't have to go through so much effort for clients...Regs come every week, then there's the ones who come twice a month, then there's the ones who come once a month, or 4 times a year....So I actually am very satisfied with my one little ad, cuz most come back & even the ones that I don't offer what they want will call to say hi every now & then because they like my personality......You can't click with everyone, & it's especially hard with the type of service I offer.
