I have a feeling I'm going to be a top poster this month...

Any guy who takes a civvie on a dinner date and allows her to pay half should expect a damned cold reception from her later on.

...If a relationship developes I'm not opposed to her taking me out & she pays. But generally I expect to pay. I won't "argue" about it though. If she offers I'll say no. If she continues then it's on her. She can pay. I've always thought people standing there arguing back & forth "I'll get it", "no, I will" is just stupid.

Unless she is so insistent to pay that I think it would be insulting to not let her.

It's old hooker/john talk for a 1/2 hr. of suckin' followed by 1/2 hr. of fuckin.  This could corn-fuse yore date if he's ever played in Hooker World.
Oh, an I may be iggorint but I'm also Olde Skool.  I don't go Dutch.  She pays!
Jest kiddn'.  I do.

Pays the the check, opens doors, seats the lady !  Protest to the contrary are quickly squelched with a smile !

Don't pay ! Now is it nice to receive a gift of sorts ? Yes. I have gotten flowers, clothes, and sex . But the nicest thing is love . Yes , the feeling of love . The best gift of all , next to bbbjcimnqasked ! And friendship xoxoxo

I love to treat. I treat my girlfriends, and I'm not cheap about it. If I invite a friend out to eat who doesn't have a ton of money, I just pay, and I tell her not to be cheap and get whatever she wants. It's not greedy to expect a man to pay, it's just cheap for them not to. (If they can't, they can't. Let's do something he can afford. But if he's a doctor, lawyer, engineer, come on. Really?)

Assuming the man asks you out... if either of you are asking to split the check, its not a good sign unless there was a clear understanding up front about doing that.

Complimented me on my offer to pay on the first date. (Didn't let me, however.) This was a long time ago, before I got spoiled by you guys lol. I said this time, "Where are you going to take me?"

Long time since a civvie date, but I always paid. It was just the way things were done. Girls/ladies could return the favor in other ways, and not just sexual.  

When between marriages I date a number of women much wealthier than I (and ended up married to one), but I asked for the date, I paid and incidentally never did so in an obvious way.  
Whe s student, If I didn't have the money to pay comfortably, I would go to a cheaper place so I could pay  without worry
I invite, I pay. I think there
are two masculine obligations: we pay for dates (certainly when we invite) and she comes first when we make love..

But I still believe that gentlemen exist.  

That situation. But they know damned well I'll spoil them with gratitude if they treat me well, act classy, and treat me special. That girl is ghetto lol

I always thought it meant a BJ and sex.  

Awww! That's so sweet.

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The one insisting on splitting the bill or occasionally paying. I insist on splitting because I don't want to feel in any way obligated to engage further if I don't want to. It was always a safe way for me to ensure we always stood on equal grounds until I was ready to take the relationship further. Once I decided that I'd like to see more of someone, I would pay occasionally and expect to be treated occasionally as well.  

w/o any intentions of anything physical, I would never let a girl pay for the date...

but if it makes you feel better, London isn't number 1 anymore ha ha

Lover n a fighter xoxo your sweet xoxo.

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Awww! That's so sweet.

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"That girl is ghetto"

Good one, Courtney

I have never had that experience where the guy wanted to go 50/50 but I don't think it's a good sign.  I
I think guys prefer to pay. On civvie dates, I have let the man pay (whenever I've offered, it's been so awkward and they always refuse) BUT I reciprocate later by making him dinner or brownies or something I know he likes, you know after a couple of dates. Effort for them counts for a lot. They like it when you make something for them with your own hands.  It shows you care.

And do you know why it's customary to have the woman walk to the inside, away from the street?

It duz, dummie!  Half BJ, half fuckin.

at least until we are in a relationship. If she asked me out I might consider letting her if she demanded to pay.  
     

Even if she offers to pick up the tab or split it, I pay,  regardless of if I think there might be a second date.   Eventually I might let her pay for the movie or concessions or something small like that but seriously if the guy is mentioning splitting a $50-75 meal on a first date that should start raising red flags.

I know, that's how it should be, I think. I bought a man his favorite cookies once and he was so moved he leased an apartment for me for a year (paid). Guess money wasn't a factor in that relationship! I was like... WTF?

Yikes!

Sorry. I was letting verbiage fly out of my mouth today without thinking much. I more meant the practice seemed so.

...flying shit & piss when someone from an upper window emptied the pee pot. This of course from when there was no plumbing.

I have heard of splitting checks in New York City is common practice because of cost. Not yet in other places.  

Yup still relevant today though !

The dinners  before sex have to equal her hourly rate. And then she sets her phone alarm to go off when the hour is done. If the guy is good, he gets OTC time.

I would NEVER suggest 1/2 and 1/2.  If a date offers to pay a share on the first date I will decline.  If she is making nearly as much or more than I do in her work I might respond to her offer on the first date that can share or buy the tickets when she asks me out, but since this was my invitation to her I expect to pay.  Even that takes some judgment that the woman might think I did not respect her earning power if I didn't let her pay for something.  I do not want cost to be a factor in her deciding whether to go out with me the next time I ask.  If she likes me and wants to demonstrate her own financial independence, she can buy tickets to a show and call me to share.  I won't object to that, but I'll still assume I'm buying dinner before or after and would only yield if she really insists.