Why would the General D/CIA have an extramarital with that woman and take the chance of gettting caught and having to resign as he did? Why wouldn't he just hobby? I mean I get why he wanted to stray, OMG his wife is not even close to being attractive. But his mistress wasn't all that pretty either. Why not hobby and be with hot women who you know will perform?
I love the hobby, but I'm no longer married. I can assure you if I had that kind of money with that kind of job, I wouldn't take the chance of losing my reputation and means of earning that kind of money by having an affair, especially with a fair at best looking woman (reminds me of Clinton).
The hobby is perfect if you keep your head about you and don't negotiate with rates (just pay what's posted), I mean it's a win-win.
Maybe he does not want sexual relations with a woman who has to pretend to like him. Maybe he wants an ACTUAL relationship. Also, whether he's paying someone or not, there will be major problems if he gets caught. Paying for it certainly does not mean you are safe from all the possible risks (ie she calls him out, ends up being a jealous maniac, bribes him, etc....)
OK, so I am not a high profile person (I still wouldn't want my employer to find out that I hobby, I make very good money and wouldn't want to jeapordize that). But i'll say that I've never had any situation where I was concerned that a provider I've seen would expose me, even amongst the ones that I have friendly relationship with and personal phone, email. I'm not naive, I'm aware that it's an arranged friendship but you can't totally fake enjoying someone's company when it's not action related.
I guess I should thank my lucky stars (we do make our own luck though) that I haven't been with any lunatics.
And when YOU decide to move on...that nutso hooker will have NO issues throwing you under the bus.
So yea...thank your lucky starts it hasn't happened yet...and honestly, I hope it never does.
But I've had too many pals here get that action...and they didn't have a lot of fun.
Best bet is to be hooker/john and nothing more. And don't give up any personal info...it may indeed come back to bite you in the ass.
Posted By: russbbj
OK, so I am not a high profile person (I still wouldn't want my employer to find out that I hobby, I make very good money and wouldn't want to jeapordize that). But i'll say that I've never had any situation where I was concerned that a provider I've seen would expose me, even amongst the ones that I have friendly relationship with and personal phone, email. I'm not naive, I'm aware that it's an arranged friendship but you can't totally fake enjoying someone's company when it's not action related.
I guess I should thank my lucky stars (we do make our own luck though) that I haven't been with any lunatics.
We all have the potential to become a lunatic under the right circumstances and absolutely someone can fake a friendship or anything else! Happens all the time even if the faker is just trying to be nice! Take the money or other gains out of the scenario and the term "easy come easy go" will ring in your head.
Who have publicly admitted to keeping posts...PM's and emails from johns.
And those are only from the goofballs who have publicly admitted to doing this shit.
So...about this being a safe alternative?
Sure...if you want to dream LOL
Posted By: russbbj
Why would the General D/CIA have an extramarital with that woman and take the chance of gettting caught and having to resign as he did? Why wouldn't he just hobby? I mean I get why he wanted to stray, OMG his wife is not even close to being attractive. But his mistress wasn't all that pretty either. Why not hobby and be with hot women who you know will perform?
I love the hobby, but I'm no longer married. I can assure you if I had that kind of money with that kind of job, I wouldn't take the chance of losing my reputation and means of earning that kind of money by having an affair, especially with a fair at best looking woman (reminds me of Clinton).
The hobby is perfect if you keep your head about you and don't negotiate with rates (just pay what's posted), I mean it's a win-win.
Just because you pay for it doesn't mean you're not risking your professional position if you get caught.
But, if you're the DIR of the flippin' CIA you really should be thinkin' more than once before cheating on your wife in the first place---assuming you would like to keep your job and reputation. And not publicly embarrass the shit out of your family.
Oh wait...my error. You're the hottest lesbo on the planet. But yet you troll here looking for someone that'll fuck with you LOL
Nice try there ole hotplants
Posted By: hotplants
Just because you pay for it doesn't mean you're not risking your professional position if you get caught.
But, if you're the DIR of the flippin' CIA you really should be thinkin' more than once before cheating on your wife in the first place---assuming you would like to keep your job and reputation. And not publicly embarrass the shit out of your family.
His looks have as much to do with this debacle as the women he was fucking. Which is exactly zero. I was simply responding to the OP, who was the one who brought that up.
but was having trouble seeing it around your pompous ass.
And yea...handles...aliases...now you sound like Serpico complaining about that shit.
Is your real name "hotplants"?
Posted By: hotplants
His looks have as much to do with this debacle as the women he was fucking. Which is exactly zero. I was simply responding to the OP, who was the one who brought that up.
You continuously changing your handle/alias is not fooling anyone. But, hey....use whatever anonymous name you like. Just do everyone a favor and stop acting like an online stalking asshole.
I'd rather be an unknown shmoe and be able to hobby than a celebrity or person in the public eye.
I guess if you are going to be famous, you might as well chop it off or hope you marry someone who will still ball you once in a while, and whom you will want to ball with.
It's the old: "Be careful what you wish for." routine.
Now the CIA boys...they're too fucking paranoid. And you'd think with their resources...screening the hookers would be a breeze
Like so many mamsy pambsys here.
Posted By: mrfisher
I'd rather be an unknown shmoe and be able to hobby than a celebrity or person in the public eye.
I guess if you are going to be famous, you might as well chop it off or hope you marry someone who will still ball you once in a while, and whom you will want to ball with.
It's the old: "Be careful what you wish for." routine.
True, he may be laughing all the way to the bank, but I like to think that dignity and self-respect have some currency - though I fear I could be wrong.
There is a long history of US Military General (and Admiral) Officers having extra-marital affairs, and many of them have blown up in their faces and caused an early and embarrassing end to their careers. The Army has a General in the process of being Court Martialed at Fort Bragg right now for indiscrete fooling around - mostly with female officers looking for a (pun intended) leg up. I could name several retired USAF Generals whose dick cut their career short when it became public and could name a few more that simply never got caught. One commanding officer of a large USAF Center permanently kept a room in the Visiting DV Quarters for his own use 'as needed for rest' despite the fact that his on-base quarters were several blocks closer to his office than the DV VOQ. Walking into the Headquarters Building in those days was akin to having stumbled into a USAF Beauty Pagent with a disproportionate number of female staffers who all just happened to be good looking.
Why? Mostly it is the power that comes with those stars on their shoulders. It attracts women like there is no tomorrow. On a side note, I could not believe how much better looking I got the day I pinned on the rank of my last promotion and that certainly was not a star! Also now there is a sub-culture in the military officer ranks; the Courtesan. She is highly motivated to make rank and willing to do what it takes to get a Senior Officer to promote her career. Comptetition is fierce and just being an excellent officer is no guarantee of promotion, but a senior officer can ensure she gets the right jobs and endorsements. Many women have no problem getting on their back or knees for the General when all they can think of is an Eagle or Star of their own on their shoulder.
These guys usually have egos like no tomorrow, they just keep it quieter than George Patton did, but it is there. They get a sense of entitlement to whatever they want because usually there is a lower ranking officer willing to get it for them.
I know nothing really of David Patraeus. For all I know he was a dedicated family man who simply fell in love with another woman. But I doubt it. Most likely if you tracked back into his career and found members of his commands that would talk about it, there would be a series of other women in his past. And oh yeah, usually the wife knows all about it, maybe not in detail but they aren't stupid, just they are willing to let him do what he wants as long as she continues to get all that goes with 'Mrs General' and the six or seven figure salary he will probably pick up in the Defense Industry after he leaves the military.
Excellent post, very articulate. But times must have changed, because I was in the USAF from 81-85 and I've never seen a good looking woman in the AF. I was enlisted, but I assure you I never saluted a nice looking AF woman either. It sounds like you have more recent and reliable experiences so I'll take your word for it.
Posted By: vonrichtofen
There is a long history of US Military General (and Admiral) Officers having extra-marital affairs, and many of them have blown up in their faces and caused an early and embarrassing end to their careers. The Army has a General in the process of being Court Martialed at Fort Bragg right now for indiscrete fooling around - mostly with female officers looking for a (pun intended) leg up. I could name several retired USAF Generals whose dick cut their career short when it became public and could name a few more that simply never got caught. One commanding officer of a large USAF Center permanently kept a room in the Visiting DV Quarters for his own use 'as needed for rest' despite the fact that his on-base quarters were several blocks closer to his office than the DV VOQ. Walking into the Headquarters Building in those days was akin to having stumbled into a USAF Beauty Pagent with a disproportionate number of female staffers who all just happened to be good looking.
Why? Mostly it is the power that comes with those stars on their shoulders. It attracts women like there is no tomorrow. On a side note, I could not believe how much better looking I got the day I pinned on the rank of my last promotion and that certainly was not a star! Also now there is a sub-culture in the military officer ranks; the Courtesan. She is highly motivated to make rank and willing to do what it takes to get a Senior Officer to promote her career. Comptetition is fierce and just being an excellent officer is no guarantee of promotion, but a senior officer can ensure she gets the right jobs and endorsements. Many women have no problem getting on their back or knees for the General when all they can think of is an Eagle or Star of their own on their shoulder.
These guys usually have egos like no tomorrow, they just keep it quieter than George Patton did, but it is there. They get a sense of entitlement to whatever they want because usually there is a lower ranking officer willing to get it for them.
I know nothing really of David Patraeus. For all I know he was a dedicated family man who simply fell in love with another woman. But I doubt it. Most likely if you tracked back into his career and found members of his commands that would talk about it, there would be a series of other women in his past. And oh yeah, usually the wife knows all about it, maybe not in detail but they aren't stupid, just they are willing to let him do what he wants as long as she continues to get all that goes with 'Mrs General' and the six or seven figure salary he will probably pick up in the Defense Industry after he leaves the military.
I did think this through completely. I travel all the time for business, and when I'm in my room no one knows what I'm doing. I've never had my privacy disturbed by anyone hotel staff or otherwise. So if a provider were to go to the other room and I went through the adjoining door no one would know. Perhaps you only use Motel 6 or Super 8 but they have hotels that there are adjoining doors that you don't have to go out in the hallway to go room to room. If someone is careful, they could take these measures easily. But as someone indicated earlier, these people like DP think they won't or can't get caught so they get careless.
Look how Spitzer was caught- nobody saw them together either, as far as I know. It was the communications trail that got him busted. Much more complicated to camouflage.
Totally accidentally. An accidental hallway collision sent us to the floor in a tangle of arms & legs, papers everywhere..... sent things out of control. Once the Genie was out of the bottle we could not put her back in there again. It went against all common sense. It took me 5 years to break it off... and make it stick! All the coworkers (and her husband) "knew" but we were never caught in the act. We took crazy chances to be together. In those long gone days... before cell phones... we used a letter drop. We'd have been caught for sure with today's electronics. skb
I would think cheating on a wife knowing you can get caught is rather tame in comparison to some of the other things I have seen men do to get a nut. I know men who fk the baby sitter in the living room while the wife is sleeping upstairs...same with the nanny. No big shocker here IMO. Nothing surprises me about what men and women both do out of pure selfishness having no regard for anyone else, but I digress.
Why would he be that stupid? Likely does not care. I notice a very common trait among men of power, and that is they all seem to think they are invincible. Most guys who give providers their personal info. are not blue collar workers, but uber professionals or in the public eye...Politicians, CEOs, Athletes, etc. All of them are in a position where they feel no matter what they do to a certain extent, cannot be brought down. They seem to take more risks than the everyday married man who works 9-5.
You hit it out of the park LR. The less we have, the more concerned we are about losing everything. Those who have it all can afford to lose some of it and still come out just fine. My guess is DP will find himself a nice cozy job in the military contracting arena once the scandal blows over and his wife will stay with him.
When blood flows southward in a man's body he can just do some STUPID shit !
Powerful, 9 to 5 , athlete, accountant, senator, electrician. plumber , congressman , rabbi, engineer , pastor, husband, salesman .................Men will just do some jacked up shit for a peice of ASS !!
Testosterone and actually giving a shit about someone else is the separating factor as I see it.
There is a good chance he sees prostitutes too ... There are plenty of providers in DC area. If he is an opportunist on that respect, chances are he hobbies too (his providers maybe part of TER too).
Recently found out my former ATF did a big name movie star...but she was discreet and never mentioned it in conversation. Another provider I knew was a SB to an NBA player of the team in town - she talked too much. I've found providers to be some of the most interesting people to have conversations with. Even while being discreet (and most are), the experiences they've had, the various types of people they've met all make for really interesting conversation, even without getting into any sordid details or sexual predilections. Problem is, there's never enough time to talk with them when you've come for other things.
You would be amazed at what the opposing sides go through during election time to try and smear a candidate, and many times the hooker is in the mix never having known a damn thing. I do my best to avoid men in the public eye for this very reason, and still have bs going around that never happened!
Why would the General D/CIA have an extramarital with that woman and take the chance of gettting caught and having to resign as he did? Why wouldn't he just hobby? I mean I get why he wanted to stray, OMG his wife is not even close to being attractive. But his mistress wasn't all that pretty either. Why not hobby and be with hot women who you know will perform?
I love the hobby, but I'm no longer married. I can assure you if I had that kind of money with that kind of job, I wouldn't take the chance of losing my reputation and means of earning that kind of money by having an affair, especially with a fair at best looking woman (reminds me of Clinton).
The hobby is perfect if you keep your head about you and don't negotiate with rates (just pay what's posted), I mean it's a win-win.
Why the hell is America obsessed with everyone else’s sex life but their own? Why is sex a bad thing? There ore only 4 people affected in this instance so, let them deal with it? Everyone else’s opinion is nothing but a fart stinking up the room.
OMG imagine him getting caught out in his job visiting a chic I think he was smart not to take that option and unless he got on a plane to Russia every Friday the chances of him being sold out by a female who doesn't have any morals regards discretion were pretty high. Can't imagine he wanted to shw up to a sexy encounter with a disguise either.....so think as an untra smart guy he took the best option, just picked the wrong flake to do it with.
He might even have some really neat toys to play with LOL
Posted By: londonheather
OMG imagine him getting caught out in his job visiting a chic I think he was smart not to take that option and unless he got on a plane to Russia every Friday the chances of him being sold out by a female who doesn't have any morals regards discretion were pretty high. Can't imagine he wanted to shw up to a sexy encounter with a disguise either.....so think as an untra smart guy he took the best option, just picked the wrong flake to do it with.
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