I'm going to be seeing a provider for the third time. On our first date, there were a couple of snafu's that resulted in me having a shorter session than I'd hoped for. She said she'd make it up the next time.
On the second date, I didn't even think of that, as I was concentrating on the way she looked.
I figure I should address this now before things stretch on too long. Or do you think it's too late now?
She was a bit late, and her assistant moved my appointment back an hour, so I wasn't able to see her for the time period I'd hoped for. I don't know what sort of reparations would be reasonable, but I'm thinking a discount or some extra time wouldn't be unreasonable.
You should have brought it up the second time if you really felt the need...if you enjoy her company let it go. If it's going to bother you, move on to someone else.
I'll say that maybe the hooker didn't realize till after you left that you overpaid for the hour...as her assistant didn't really tell her it was supposed to be two. Who knows (aside from the hooker and her assistant).
Then you go for a second time...and you paid her the full amount again?
Now you want to see her a third time and the hooker has pretended that your overpayment was a nice tip?
Grow some fucking balls next time and don't fucking overpay for this shit. You shouldn't have paid her more than the time you spent on date one...and since you pussied out after that in "demanding" that she make it up to you..yea..grow some balls.
Sorry jackie boy...this ones on YOU!!
Posted By: 89Springer
I'm going to be seeing a provider for the third time. On our first date, there were a couple of snafu's that resulted in me having a shorter session than I'd hoped for. She said she'd make it up the next time.
On the second date, I didn't even think of that, as I was concentrating on the way she looked.
I figure I should address this now before things stretch on too long. Or do you think it's too late now?
She was a bit late, and her assistant moved my appointment back an hour, so I wasn't able to see her for the time period I'd hoped for. I don't know what sort of reparations would be reasonable, but I'm thinking a discount or some extra time wouldn't be unreasonable.
ChgoCPA, I didn't pay for two and just get one. I was scheduled for 7 pm. The assistant called to say that the provider was running late, and that it would have to be 8 pm. I'd wanted to see her for three hours, but with her running half an hour late and then the appointment being moved, I was only able to see her for two.
If I didn't have to drive so far, it wouldn't have been as big a disappointment. The session was great, though, which is why I came back and second (and now third) time
I would say that you should take it up with the booker if anyone, it's quite possible that the provider isn't even aware she "owes" you.
My advice is if you are going to bring it up, do so right fucking now or just drop it.
My question is after the first, two hour session that was supposed to be three, why did you pay her for three hours in the first place? I am inclined to agree with those that say "it's on you"
Unless you are reading his reply differently than I am.
He's pissed that he had to only play for 2 when he wanted 3...but still ONLY paid the 2 rate.
It's still on him nevertheless. Find one closer and quit his bitching.
He's just looking how to finagle a discount out of her. So he figures his long ride is a reason she should accommodate his request. What he might try is just to ask her straight up for his next date...how much for 3 hours? And if it's not including his presumed discount..tell her that's not an option (as in "I can't afford that today...thanks).
I'll bet she'll contact him and give him the deal he's looking for.
In which case he should really just STFU and get on with his life, and quit sweating the small stuff. Now if he had taken this long drive and she was a no show, or rushed him through a 45 minute session when he was expecting a long, non rushed visit, then I could see his point. Gettting a session that by his own admission he was fully satisfied with, satisfied enough to see her two more times puts this in the category of STFU and find something legit to bitch about.
So nowhere were you shorted...not on time, service.
And you're asking for some reparations for a change in schedule?
So then my answer is you're owed nothing. She delivered...performed...saw you again.
Sure...be a schmuck and ask her for something extra because YOU found one that is a long drive for you...make it HER problem LOL
Posted By: 89Springer
ChgoCPA, I didn't pay for two and just get one. I was scheduled for 7 pm. The assistant called to say that the provider was running late, and that it would have to be 8 pm. I'd wanted to see her for three hours, but with her running half an hour late and then the appointment being moved, I was only able to see her for two.
If I didn't have to drive so far, it wouldn't have been as big a disappointment. The session was great, though, which is why I came back and second (and now third) time.
You fucking "drove so far" ? It sounds like a visit to the dentist ! Honestly , find a better way to hobby ! I prefer outcall , in a city that offers entertainment too. Guys running around for the "appointment" then driving "far" is nuts . I wouldn't do it . Find some closer entertainment and some girls that may visit a locale near you !
Posted By: 89Springer
ChgoCPA, I didn't pay for two and just get one. I was scheduled for 7 pm. The assistant called to say that the provider was running late, and that it would have to be 8 pm. I'd wanted to see her for three hours, but with her running half an hour late and then the appointment being moved, I was only able to see her for two.
If I didn't have to drive so far, it wouldn't have been as big a disappointment. The session was great, though, which is why I came back and second (and now third) time.
I asked because I see someone mention that he did this or that, and everybody's all over him for being a "mangina" or some such. I asked because she said she'd make it up to me, whatever that means, but so far hasn't done anything. If I said that I'd driven 400 miles, stayed overnight, and then she was late and my three hours became two, somebody would be crawling up my ass about that.
So, I asked if anyone thought there's something she should do to make it up, or if the time for that has passed.
As for finding someone in my area, good luck. You'd have better pickings visiting a sheep ranch.
I asked because I see someone mention that he did this or that, and everybody's all over him for being a "mangina" or some such. I asked because she said she'd make it up to me, whatever that means, but so far hasn't done anything. If I said that I'd driven 400 miles, stayed overnight, and then she was late and my three hours became two, somebody would be crawling up my ass about that.
So, I asked if anyone thought there's something she should do to make it up, or if the time for that has passed.
As for finding someone in my area, good luck. You'd have better pickings visiting a sheep ranch.
Sometimes life intervenes. Should we ladies ask for more compensation or a shorter visit at our regular rate when a guy books for 3 hours but because of his secretary scheduled him a meeting it is now 2? Yeah happens to us and we have to suck it up. It is not her problem you have to travel for ass.
Her saying she would make it up was most likely said in the heat of the moment with no intention of ever doing so, so I would forget about it. t is not like you were shorted time and still paid the full rate. Hell I have had guys cancel and tell me they will reschedule but never do. I let it go. Not the end of the world.
Carvel ! See u girls need to be creative . Or Wednesday is Sunday 1/2 off ! Or a Super Sale , get 2 menu items the 3rd free ? Drive 400 miles and she'll throw in an oil change wipers and give u a "lube job" !
Posted By: justanillusion
Sometimes life intervenes. Should we ladies ask for more compensation or a shorter visit at our regular rate when a guy books for 3 hours but because of his secretary scheduled him a meeting it is now 2? Yeah happens to us and we have to suck it up. It is not her problem you have to travel for ass.
Her saying she would make it up was most likely said in the heat of the moment with no intention of ever doing so, so I would forget about it. t is not like you were shorted time and still paid the full rate. Hell I have had guys cancel and tell me they will reschedule but never do. I let it go. Not the end of the world.
Yeah I know you guys wished we were like those store that did that but you see, on the free one some guys would take advantage of that and bang us into the freaking mattress making it impossible to work for three days so in effect we lose soooo much more. Fiscally not in our favor long term, well for a few days that is lol.
Sometimes life intervenes. Should we ladies ask for more compensation or a shorter visit at our regular rate when a guy books for 3 hours but because of his secretary scheduled him a meeting it is now 2? Yeah happens to us and we have to suck it up. It is not her problem you have to travel for ass.
Her saying she would make it up was most likely said in the heat of the moment with no intention of ever doing so, so I would forget about it. t is not like you were shorted time and still paid the full rate. Hell I have had guys cancel and tell me they will reschedule but never do. I let it go. Not the end of the world.
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Oh, I know, justanillusion. Mistakes happen, things get in the way. That's why there's "customer service". I made a rare mistake with a customer last week, and had to send him a replacement item. I also sent him an accessory free as a surprise apology gift. I'm certain that gesture gave me a return customer.
As I said before, I asked because opinions on this forum sometimes really surprise me. This forum is maybe the biggest assemblage of macho men since The Village People did a Bob Hope special on an aircraft carrier. If I'd mentioned this incident on the forum in another thread and in another context I probably would, as I said, have been called a "mangina", "tampon sniffer", or "NoBalls"
We deliver our body parts for you to do things with/to. We have no idea how we will be treated. Some guys are known to bang the living daylights out of women who offer specials to "get their monies worth". It's not like we can offer 6 extra minutes of intercourse, or maybe we should and offer that as the special addon.
With little gifts you know what you are giving out, when we offer extra time we usually don't know what the hell that entails and if we might get a grudge fuck situation.
That's why this business is so hard to compare to the real world when it comes down to specifics. Other stuff like prompt communication, professionalism, accurate images etc. You can see why we have YMMV. A big one that a lot of guys hate. We actually agree to do things sight unseen. Would you buy a car without inspecting it? No, but we are expected to do a b c to a guy we have never seen because it was in a review. And that guy might be a filthy smelly goat, not like the clean sweet smelling dude who wrote the review
I have been a service provider my entire life...all I have ever sold is my time (and companionship LOL).
The reality is if I had to cut short an expected three hour meeting due to anything...I wouldn't feel the least bit moved to offer a gratis. I would however expect my time for the two hours to be paid for..no exceptions.
If that client wants to utilize my talents again...so be it. But to honestly believe that I owe him (or her) something due to the shortened first meeting is unrealistic.
I see no difference in this world. Time is time, and whatever happens in that timeframe is the billable portion of that time.
The OP is griping over the same idiotic issue...which is ONLY his issue. Either he need get a car that goes over 30 (perhaps he's using his tractor?) or find a hooker that's closer to him. I wouldn't drive 40 miles to see a hooker....let alone 400. That's what online porn is for
Posted By: justanillusion
We deliver our body parts for you to do things with/to. We have no idea how we will be treated. Some guys are known to bang the living daylights out of women who offer specials to "get their monies worth". It's not like we can offer 6 extra minutes of intercourse, or maybe we should and offer that as the special addon.
With little gifts you know what you are giving out, when we offer extra time we usually don't know what the hell that entails and if we might get a grudge fuck situation.
That's why this business is so hard to compare to the real world when it comes down to specifics. Other stuff like prompt communication, professionalism, accurate images etc. You can see why we have YMMV. A big one that a lot of guys hate. We actually agree to do things sight unseen. Would you buy a car without inspecting it? No, but we are expected to do a b c to a guy we have never seen because it was in a review. And that guy might be a filthy smelly goat, not like the clean sweet smelling dude who wrote the review.
Having your vagina pummeled for 50 minutes is a lot different than having to sit with a client and listen to his idea of how he should invest. I do have another job where i deal with clients and have to sit through client meetings etc etc.
I have offered discount incentives but I control how much work I do. It's like a store selling of stuff they bought too much of to get rid of it. The entire store is not on sale.
So do we select what is allowed with these specials and for how long or are we at the mercy of the client who pushes the envelop for less money because that does happen, ask your hooker friends and if they are honest, they will tell you specials, unless absolutely necessary are a PITA.
BTW...I don't have a vagina...just thought I'd let you know that.
But a service is a service...that is what I was suggesting. Let's be real...in an hour of BCD if most are actually fucking for 20% or it...that's a lot. Unless all you see are guys looking for one hour bangathons. If so...I am sorry LOL But that is your option as well...stop that insanity.
The gals that I discuss these topics with don't ever offer specials publicly. They aren't interested in those clients...err johns LOL
Those are the gals that I relate to as they get what this is all about.
Posted By: justanillusion
Having your vagina pummeled for 50 minutes is a lot different than having to sit with a client and listen to his idea of how he should invest. I do have another job where i deal with clients and have to sit through client meetings etc etc.
I have offered discount incentives but I control how much work I do. It's like a store selling of stuff they bought too much of to get rid of it. The entire store is not on sale.
So do we select what is allowed with these specials and for how long or are we at the mercy of the client who pushes the envelop for less money because that does happen, ask your hooker friends and if they are honest, they will tell you specials, unless absolutely necessary are a PITA.
The OP is griping over the same idiotic issue...which is ONLY his issue. Either he need get a car that goes over 30 (perhaps he's using his tractor?) or find a hooker that's closer to him. I wouldn't drive 40 miles to see a hooker....let alone 400.
Mister, my '69 Dodge Dart gets 35 mpg going downhill. An' you don't need to drive no 40 miles. I seen your pictures of your sheep. She sure got a purdy mouth.
The OP is griping over the same idiotic issue...which is ONLY his issue. Either he need get a car that goes over 30 (perhaps he's using his tractor?) or find a hooker that's closer to him. I wouldn't drive 40 miles to see a hooker....let alone 400.
Mister, my '69 Dodge Dart gets 35 mpg going downhill. An' you don't need to drive no 40 miles. I seen your pictures of your sheep. She sure got a purdy mouth.
One time, this girl was tied up with her previous appointment so our session started 20 minutes late. On top of that, she didn't tell me she had to check out by 1 (my appointment was at 12) so we had to wrap up in 30 minutes. She then had the nerve to tell me she would give me a 50% discount NEXT time (unfortunately she already took my donation). Needless to say, there was no next time. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, well, you know. Move on!
If you booked 3 hours and could only do two because of "something" would you go see her again and pay for three but stay 2?
Do you think she owes him a whole hour free?
What she is guilty of is promising something she had very little intention of delivering. I would have said nothing and left it at that or offered whatever but stuck to it.
I tend to let this shit role off my back. If a client did something like book and then at the very last minute cancel because work got in the way I am not pissed in the least. Even if he said he would make it up, I am of the mind that shit happens and if he is nice enough to reschedule I am good with that.
This guy loses another nut, we ladies lose money. One is not better or worse than the other, both are inconvenienced but I get a little tired of the guys wanting more than they are due (in this case she opened her trap so it's on her). If he does mention it, and she books him, I bet you she cancels and never books him again. He must move on!
well ok two "of" the biggest woman haters, I forgot about our good buddy Panthera, but I digress. Even "woman haters" like me and CCPA don't think she owes him shit. That should tell you something right there. lol
IMO waiting until after two quality sessions to bitch about this makes him look cheap and petty at this point. If he had paid for that third hour I could understand her "owing" him, but I would simply chalk this up to "shit happens" as well
well ok two "of" the biggest woman haters, I forgot about our good buddy Panthera, but I digress. Even "woman haters" like me and CCPA don't think she owes him shit. That should tell you something right there. lol
IMO waiting until after two quality sessions to bitch about this makes him look cheap and petty at this point. If he had paid for that third hour I could understand her "owing" him, but I would simply chalk this up to "shit happens" as well
Can you point to any one of my posts in this thread where I was "bitching"? I was asking for opinions which, as you know, are just like something else. And I got a whole bunch of something else.
Due to her snafus. If you only paid for 2 hrs then I don't see what the deal is. You got what you paid for. In this case, I agree with justanillusion; shit happens. You were inconvenienced and disappointed, but did NOT get shorted. A simple apology on her part would suffice. It was a nice gesture for her to offer to make it up to you. However, since you didn't cash in your chips on your second date, I am afraid it's a bit tacky to ask now.
Thank you. That is an opinion. It's what I was looking for.
I know it seems like I'm being unreasonable, or "chintzy", or something. I'm past being annoyed by it, but I booked the three hours two weeks in advance, made the assistant (and I would assume the provider) aware that I was driving some distance the day before and overnighting. I also know (unless she was lying) why she couldn't stay for a third hour. If the thing she had to do was for real, it was something that I would skip entirely in a heartbeat if it came down to choosing between it and keeping a customer happy.
I've received another bit of education about the hobby.
I would not mention it. Seems like she's making you happy, you didn't pay for more than you got, you just got a little less time than you wanted. I too live a ways from where the girls are and you don't really get any consideration for that. In my opinion, most providers would not think it was too big a deal if you only got two hours instead of three. If you enjoy her company, see how things go, if things start happening again that you don't like, then move on.
"She was a bit late, and her assistant moved my appointment back an hour, so I wasn't able to see her for the time period I'd hoped for. I don't know what sort of reparations would be reasonable, but I'm thinking a discount or some extra time wouldn't be unreasonable. "
Not sure of the basis for reparations?
Consider that, to make it simplified, you can choose a mechanical production style tight scheduling, 60 mins means 60, not 61 because they have allowed x mins before the next session promptly starts on schedule, or flexibility so that the present customer receives necessary or proper attention.
I prefer flexibility; some prefer punctuality.
I also believe the basis of a good relationship is to enunciate expectations, desires, and provide feedback. Perhaps chatting with the assistant will enable the assistant to find times that are least likely to be altered? Deprived
It's been going on for to long. Bust her out. Write a review. It's happened to me and I'm sure it's happened to others to. If anyone in the DC/Baltimore area wants to know who it is PM me and I will tell you.
You got what you paid for even if it wasn't what you originally expected. She doesn't owe you anything. If she WANTED to "make it up to you" she would have made a note to do it on your second session. Bringing it up now will only create bad feelings. If you enjoy your visits with here why screw it up?
If your date was shortened, then you should have adjusted your donation right then & there. She gave you good service, you've been happy with her. Making it up to you is being on time, the next time. At most a few extra minutes. This is a cash business. Pay as you go. Once you are out the door IOUs are worthless (unless she decides otherwise). At this later date, you can gently mention the snafu & see what making up is possible but be very gentle as being pushy could spoil things in the future.
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