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You have the right to not see the provider but why knock her for her choice

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They don't hang around for very long. Looks like Atlanta guys want their bbbj's!

..quit providing or graduate to BBBJ?

There is this one hottie in DC area. Nice voluptuous Latina. Long dark hair. Natural 36DDs with a smile to kill

The only reason I haven't scheduled with her because she only gives CBJ and rarely would do a BBBJ to a regular.  I want that warm mouth around my dick dude, and I am going where I can get it. i.e. NEXT ONE.

I respect these girls who don't sell out for extra money like many of us do though...they are safer as a whole, and I don't care what anyone wants to say about the risk being there. Condoms are 99 percent effective when used properly", says it all for me.

The reason married men don't really care about the risk is because it's NOT on you when "getting" a bbbj. It is so very rare to contract something on the receiving end, so the risk is more on us. I don't think anyone should try and ruin the business of these girls, and I find it sad that so many do just that by posting stupid comments on their reviews on boards that allow it.

These women also have goals, children to feed, etc. and believe it or not there is a huge market for guys who only want cbj. I know a girl in Upstate NYC who charges 4 an hour, and ALL she does is cbj and covered daty, fs. I am sure she is the exception and not the rule, but it just goes to show that it depends on the person sometimes and not just the act.

Posted By: salonpas
They don't hang around for very long. Looks like Atlanta guys want their bbbj's!
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saturnsky473 reads

I agree that it is unfair and a testament to the unsavory character of a few who bemoan their choices. Not every woman is willing to take that risk and as London said the risk is far more on the lady. Not everyone has to offer or hobby the way everyone does on here, a blip in the grand scheme of things. I don't see the need for some people to somehow make it tough on those who have different choices.

..Just because I can't keep my pie hole shut.. I agree with risk factors on your (universal tense) side, and low risk on our side.

But honestly speaking...Getting a CBJ feels like eating the best steak with plastic foil wrapped around your tongue. :D

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But some men are oaky with it and that's fine. ANd some women are not wanting to risk getting an STD and possibly passing it on to family members and other men. You have your likes and seek out the ladies that are willing to do what you need.

The CBJ people are just doing what they feel is right for them.

I guess what I find irritating is the guys and gals who like BBBJ crap all over those that don't and I don't see why there is that need. You're not going to convince them otherwise and why would you want too? It's really is their personal business and since no one is forcing you to have one (CBJ)...why the interest?

Most of the gals around here can out fk me, so if it were not for my mouth (bbbjcim), I would be out of business. You try finding only guys who are under six inches, and see how low volume you are ha ha.

Plus, it tastes gross with Cbj. My mouth goes numb.

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I get worried about accidentally pulling the condom off and choking.  And no I can't keep one hand on the thing the whole time.  My hands have other things to do!

Ummmmmmm..... lets see. I think the chances of sucking a condom off and choking on it are slim to none. You will be able to pull it out before it goes that far down in your throat unless you put it on wrong or let it fall off and let him shove it back there with his bare dick. You'd have to really not be paying attention for that to happen :/ I think your reason for being scared of it...... is scary.

Posted By: SweetJaneHR
I get worried about accidentally pulling the condom off and choking.  And no I can't keep one hand on the thing the whole time.  My hands have other things to do!

I met one gal who could give a CBJ that blew away most gal's BBBJs, so the issue of the condom can be overcome.

Unfortunately, this gal is up in Canada and doesn't come down to the USA anymore, which is a real pity.

I'm a "mean" bbbj artist but nothing like the right ultra thin for a cbj (probably do 70/30 bbbj to cbj, usually their choice to go cbj and others if they are ridiculous leakers or it looks "funny") ....i've made guys lose their shit in no time flat thru cbj...sometimes it's all in the condom and the "artist".

Just my 2 cents to yours :).

Is that weird? I haven't even thought about it.  But you make a good point.

..... not anymore and I don't make a fuss if they stop me before going down on them (going in for the bbbj when things look good and he's not a constant leaker is like second nature lol) to get a cover for bj. Now that I think about it bbbj vs cbj might be more like 80:20 (4 in 5 are bbbj).

But I know many women who only do CBJ and while yes, you are right, in that you won't see them advertising for long, it is many times, not because they can't get buisness, but because  they obtain so much business with so many regulars with men who appreciate a health conscious woman who values herself and doesn't believe that the risk outweigh the monetary gain that they are able to work off of just regulars, which again, lowers another risk, that risk being with more exposure and LE and seem to be doing surprisingly well with little money spent on advertising.

Just another view of the hobby that sometimes gets overlooked.

Posted By: salonpas
They don't hang around for very long. Looks like Atlanta guys want their bbbj's!

saturnsky396 reads

People on here get so wrapped up in this small microcosm that they forget there is so much more out there. 99% of my clients are not from any board and don't care to be on any board. They know they are around , have read them and quite frankly are put off by what they have seen. They have a decidedly different view of this lifestyle.

Two different approaches (hobbyists and clients) and neither right nor wrong just different. Plenty to go around for everyone.


Given the same cost structure (advertizing, traveling, supplies etc), a provider who does CBJ will have appointments going through the roof? In fact you are saying that she will be doing so well that she wouldn't even need advertizing anymore. And your logic is that this is because CBJ is safer for HER.  So guys will see CBJ provider vs BBBJ provider and give up great feeling you get from BBBJ just because they suddenly care for her safety over their pleasure !?!

Sorry man...it doesn't add up.

only seeing providers they feel are extra safe...not so hard to dissect, but also not very common for hobbyists to think of their wives when they are getting their rocks off by hookers lol. I have only ran into about 5 guys who demanded everything covered, and 2 were very high profile men who were not taking any chances...no kissing either. Believe it or not, some guys value what they have at home more than an hour of feeling good. For those men, the extra precautions are welcomed and that's why you have providers who cater to that.

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No Curly, no man who loves BBBJ will bother to go to her. The point I believe this guy is making is that there is a market for ladies who only provide CBJ for those guys who want it. They want the added safety as much as she does...hence the market for it. And some guys can pop with a condom no problem.

I know you find it hard to believe  but it's true. And many ladies who are not reviewed and do things differently than is expected on here do extremely well.

other things, so they just deal with this option. I have had daty with a dental dam before and I can tell you, it was pointless. I actually had to try 5 times harder to get off. For guys who are used to using a condom, I guess it won't matter much. It is when you're spoiled to going bb, that you have a hard time getting off any other way...same with those addicted to toys. No guy can mimick that vibration, which is why I don't partake in anything but the REAL THING!

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There is a small group of guys that are not hung up on the menu of a provider. I am more worried about her personality than her menu. If I find her nice to look at 6 or better and she will give me a BJ and a HJ and will give me my full time paid. I am good if I think we would be a match. Other than my restrictions (no DFK but LFK is OK, no anal play of any kind, no BBFS), I let the lady choice what activities we do as long as she will give me a BJ cover or no as I do love BJs. My reviews prove I see both.

Plus there are ladies so skilled out there in giving a CBJ out there that I honestly thought it was a great BBBJ until I seen the cover. A BJ is an art form both with and without the cover and not all ladies have mastered it. One of the two all time faves was a CBJ girl after all.

salonpas351 reads

I agree it does not add up! I've read more than a few comments by CBJ only gals who complain that most guys here only want bbbj's and it affects their business.

Posted By: CurlyW
Given the same cost structure (advertizing, traveling, supplies etc), a provider who does CBJ will have appointments going through the roof? In fact you are saying that she will be doing so well that she wouldn't even need advertizing anymore. And your logic is that this is because CBJ is safer for HER.  So guys will see CBJ provider vs BBBJ provider and give up great feeling you get from BBBJ just because they suddenly care for her safety over their pleasure !?!

Sorry man...it doesn't add up.

You are so right...my clients appreciate me immensely for the safety measures that I take for them..and..my business is booming.

We have to advertise far less because we have regular clientel that we accommodate.

Posted By: Muttontownmutt
But I know many women who only do CBJ and while yes, you are right, in that you won't see them advertising for long, it is many times, not because they can't get buisness, but because  they obtain so much business with so many regulars with men who appreciate a health conscious woman who values herself and doesn't believe that the risk outweigh the monetary gain that they are able to work off of just regulars, which again, lowers another risk, that risk being with more exposure and LE and seem to be doing surprisingly well with little money spent on advertising.

Just another view of the hobby that sometimes gets overlooked.

Posted By: salonpas
They don't hang around for very long. Looks like Atlanta guys want their bbbj's!

Although I don't see myself going anywhere anytime soon (have been doing this for a year now!), I only offer CBJ and will continue. I have been ridiculed for it, but I do not care because my self worth and safety is more important than a clients BBBJ! Get another girl to do it gladly :) There are SO MANY guys out there and SO MANY girls, you can find whatEVER you want (and if its not in town, its coming to a city near you!). My regulars think I give great bjs regardless of cover and cover doesn't affect deep throating abilities ;) I have a good flow of regulars and don't need to take a risk to make a quick buck. Plus for penises, YMMV and there are weird looking (old, small, crooked and otherwise) penises and I don't want my pretty lips, teeth, tongue, and throat touching naked anyway.

Posted By: Muttontownmutt
But I know many women who only do CBJ and while yes, you are right, in that you won't see them advertising for long, it is many times, not because they can't get buisness, but because  they obtain so much business with so many regulars with men who appreciate a health conscious woman who values herself and doesn't believe that the risk outweigh the monetary gain that they are able to work off of just regulars, which again, lowers another risk, that risk being with more exposure and LE and seem to be doing surprisingly well with little money spent on advertising.

Just another view of the hobby that sometimes gets overlooked.

Posted By: salonpas
They don't hang around for very long. Looks like Atlanta guys want their bbbj's!

Each lady who is in this business makes choices about what she is comfortable doing, and what she is not comfortable doing.  There may be many different reasons for a given choice, but it is her choice.

We clients have choice as well.  If nibbling on the left ear lobe is a "must have", and Suzy Mattress Thrasher does not offer that, move on.  Simple as that.

However, to decry or dis a lady for her choices is patently unfair.  She may adjust her choices to the market place sure, but it is still her choice.  She sets the menu, we choose off the menu.

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Very well said Chief!

Posted By: ChiefRedbeard
Each lady who is in this business makes choices about what she is comfortable doing, and what she is not comfortable doing.  There may be many different reasons for a given choice, but it is her choice.

We clients have choice as well.  If nibbling on the left ear lobe is a "must have", and Suzy Mattress Thrasher does not offer that, move on.  Simple as that.

However, to decry or dis a lady for her choices is patently unfair.  She may adjust her choices to the market place sure, but it is still her choice.  She sets the menu, we choose off the menu.  

Additionally, you're fooling yourself if she engages in some things with one client that she may not do with other clients or any other client....

You have the right to not see the provider but why knock her for her choice

I am actually very glad to  read this thread. In my area STD rates are really high and I have come of age in a time where condoms are the norm. I have wrestled with bbbj vs. cbj since I became sure I was entering this business. And I KNOW I prefer cbj. I would enjoy the act of giving head sooo much more knowing I'm decreasing the risk of my throat possibly becoming infected. If I give a bbbj and catch something there is a strong possibility that the next guy fucking my throat can catch it. Granted my POV is based on my life experiences working in healthcare and seeing very attractive healthy looking young people receive HIV diagnosis. And seeing some skanky chicks I've grown up with and I KNEW where positive going around hoing anyway (without disclosing there status). But I pray to the provider gods lol that I can still build a successful biz offering safety only service. Plus its also kinda effed up that guys are demanding this when the real risk is on the provider. If it was more likely that guys equally shared the risk of bbbj this would barely be a topic of discussion. Also it makes me laugh that GFE= bbbj anyway. Maybe I'm weird but in my civvie life being my "boyfriend" (a term I find amusing at 30) was never a guarantee that I'd suck your dick or do half the freeky things I'd offer as a provider lmao. Sorry so wordy, just wanted to partake and glad to have somewher to discuss thing related to being a provider. :)

Posted By: salonpas
They don't hang around for very long. Looks like Atlanta guys want their bbbj's!

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..." Plus its also kinda effed up that guys are demanding this when the real risk is on the provider."...

Some guys will do some very risky shit all in the name of an orgasm...that little head rules and it's more powerful than we women even realize, so no they don't care one bit, as long as they get what they want. But the guys cannot be blamed 100%. The ladies offer it. If they didn't then they might have to comply or find it on the streets (much risker).  But then again, some ladies will do whatever for the money so it's six of one half dozen of the other.

inflammatory, irresponsible, obnoxious and completely wrong by all established scientific and medical accounts.  Your claim of being a healthcare worker - or at least a good one - is discredited.

I will accept that we may face an increased risk of herpes and HPV (although I think you CBJ people overstate the risk, and you also fail to acknowledge that the vast majority of you have already been exposed, but we'll put that aside for now).  But NOT HIV.  

If you want to do CBJ - fine - no issues with me.  But let's not be completely ridiculous here.

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Ma'am you reaction to my post is a bit over blown. My intent was not to imply you could or would catch HIV through CIM. I brought up my past experience to explain  why "I" am skittish about bbbj.  And also  why in my mind if I have seen people passing a deadly disease, I'm pretty sure they will pass other diseases with no qualms. As I am NOT a doctor or scientist (nor did I claim to be) all I did was state my POV.  If you find it  obnoxious etc  that I spoke to things I have seen fine,my apologies for offending you. Your response was much more inflammatory and obnoxious imo than me speaking my opinion. No need to be defensive or insulting at all I'm just here to "discuss" things and maybe even learn somethings through talking with others. Again, as I did not mean to insult, judge nor inflame anyone's sensibilities (I would much rather talk,joke and laugh). That is all.

Posted By: natashalynne
inflammatory, irresponsible, obnoxious and completely wrong by all established scientific and medical accounts.  Your claim of being a healthcare worker - or at least a good one - is discredited.

I will accept that we may face an increased risk of herpes and HPV (although I think you CBJ people overstate the risk and fail to acknowledge that most of you have also already been exposed, but we'll put that aside for now).  But NOT HIV.  

If you want to do CBJ - fine - no issues with me.  But let's not be completely ridiculous here.



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Not NEARLY as possible as slip n slide or all out bbfs...let us just keep that in mind. You also can't get anyone pregnant from a fkin bjcim either!

Not-so-drunken-dude433 reads

You cannot get HIV from receiving BJ's, since Saliva is not infectious. In fact, they contain over dozen enzymes that makes the virus ineffective in penetrating the macrophages to cause infection. Go read about it in aidsmeds.com

Getting HIV from CIM is theoretically possible but VERY VERY rare. SOme even say it is close to zero. Go look it up and medhelp.org or aidsmeds.com

When this disease first came out, all sorts of "myths" about contraction were speculated on, then look what happened a year later after tons were infected...oops, we didn't think about that. You are really naive to think someone giving you a blowjob with bleeding gums or an open cut in thier mouth, can't give you HIV...who said anything about only saliva being at play here. Chew on that a bit, and then YOU go back and read up.

I really don't know where some of you are getting this bs from...it flat out says in BOLD below, that you're full of shit. There has ALWAYS been a risk with oral sex, and there always will be. It's not as much as bbfs or slip n slide, but it is there!

Posted By: Not-so-drunken-dude
You cannot get HIV from receiving BJ's, since Saliva is not infectious. In fact, they contain over dozen enzymes that makes the virus ineffective in penetrating the macrophages to cause infection. Go read about it in aidsmeds.com

Getting HIV from CIM is theoretically possible but VERY VERY rare. SOme even say it is close to zero. Go look it up and medhelp.org or aidsmeds.com
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Posted By: London Rayne
When this disease first came out, all sorts of "myths" about contraction were speculated on, then look what happened a year later after tons were infected...oops, we didn't think about that. You are really naive to think someone giving you a blowjob with bleeding gums or an open cut in thier mouth, can't give you HIV...who said anything about only saliva being at play here. Chew on that a bit, and then YOU go back and read up.

I really don't know where some of you are getting this bs from...it flat out says in BOLD below, that you're full of shit. There has ALWAYS been a risk with oral sex, and there always will be. It's not as much as bbfs or slip n slide, but it is there!

Posted By: Not-so-drunken-dude
You cannot get HIV from receiving BJ's, since Saliva is not infectious. In fact, they contain over dozen enzymes that makes the virus ineffective in penetrating the macrophages to cause infection. Go read about it in aidsmeds.com

Getting HIV from CIM is theoretically possible but VERY VERY rare. SOme even say it is close to zero. Go look it up and medhelp.org or aidsmeds.com
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IMHO the risks are grossly overstated for "politically motivated reasons"  


I live in a MAJOR metro area (nearly 2 million in the GTA.)  One of the top 20 nationally.  The most recent data on the STD rates in my area  are as follows.  HIV .0001% (9.2 per 100,000) Clap .33% (334 per 100,000) Chlamydia .67% (675 per 100,000)

Are there risks?  Yes.  Are they statistically relevant?  IHMO not really.  Contracting or transmitting HIV through Oral sex is difficult at best.  Assuming to reasonable things... the man doesn't have open sores on his penis and the girl doesn't have open sores in her mouth, the probability are so low that it is a relatively safe endeavor.

Having an informed basis of understanding about the disease is critical to ascertain what is an "acceptable risk"  Fact:  It is much more difficult for men to contract the disease from women (provided the man does not have open sores on his penis)  It is much, much more difficult for a woman to give a man HIV through oral sex.  Of course if the woman is infected with other STD's it is much easier for the HIV virus to be transmitted.  

Not all unprotected sex is the same when it comes to HIV transmission and anyone with half a brain who looks at the numbers can quickly figure that out...

Oh and that 9.2 per 100,000 isn't looking at who and how... its a raw number.  If I look at that number based on who is Heterosexual and ISN'T using intravenous drug addiction, the number plummets

Posted By: London Rayne
When this disease first came out, all sorts of "myths" about contraction were speculated on, then look what happened a year later after tons were infected...oops, we didn't think about that. You are really naive to think someone giving you a blowjob with bleeding gums or an open cut in thier mouth, can't give you HIV...who said anything about only saliva being at play here. Chew on that a bit, and then YOU go back and read up.

I really don't know where some of you are getting this bs from...it flat out says in BOLD below, that you're full of shit. There has ALWAYS been a risk with oral sex, and there always will be. It's not as much as bbfs or slip n slide, but it is there!

Posted By: Not-so-drunken-dude
You cannot get HIV from receiving BJ's, since Saliva is not infectious. In fact, they contain over dozen enzymes that makes the virus ineffective in penetrating the macrophages to cause infection. Go read about it in aidsmeds.com

Getting HIV from CIM is theoretically possible but VERY VERY rare. SOme even say it is close to zero. Go look it up and medhelp.org or aidsmeds.com
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Unless the male has open sores on his member and the female has open sores it is virtually impossible to transmit HIV through oral sex.

Receiving oral sex (which would expose you only to saliva) is very low risk for HIV.  Recent estimates of the proportion of new HIV cases attributable to oral sex are less than 1%.  Keep in mind that, that includes ALL groups  Male to male (highest risk group) and all ethnic and racial groups and YES, there are ethnic and racial groups that are more susceptible to the disease than others.

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