TER General Board

CASH ONLY
redfox7 45 Reviews 1732 reads
posted
1 / 29

As I have gotten older my tastes have gravitated toward quality over quantity and providers whom I have made a genuine connection with. As a result I found myself spending more as in 3-4 hour dates and an occasional trip with a provider friend. My question for clients is how do you handle the larger sums of cash? For instance coming up with $10,000 for a trip. Do you pull the money out gradually or at once? Do you use a payment app like Venmo, Zelle, or Cash App for the full amount or do you split it between cash and a payment app? This is new territory for me so I would like to compare notes

For providers what are your preferences?

Laspho 75 reads
posted
2 / 29

Cash always. Do not use apps for large amounts like that.

36363jensen 4 Reviews 56 reads
posted
3 / 29

A couple of times the bank might ask what it's for and I say travel and emergency funds. Never had an issue.

InspectorMorse 211 Reviews 53 reads
posted
4 / 29

Lately I’ve used cash, payment app, or some combination thereof, each time as specified by the Provider.

netnoy 80 Reviews 77 reads
posted
5 / 29

Ideally.  Although, if you are worried about safety, that would be another conversation entirely.  Starting with why are you traveling alone to somewhere dangerous with that much cash?

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 57 reads
posted
6 / 29

American Express Travelers still work for traveling.  You can cash them out (in any local currency at any Amex office and most, but not all, banks located abroad).  They are also replaceable if you lose them or are robbed.  There is a fee, but it's nominal compared to the peace of mind.  $500 increments are compact to carry and best to use for getting local currency in the places you will be visiting.  You can check in advance in the locations where you will be traveling for lists of banks and Amex offices where you can convert them to cash.  You can buy them all at once without suspicion.  I'm done $10,000 to $20,000 before trips for provider donations but use credit cards for everything else.

Laspho 58 reads
posted
7 / 29

Be very careful with places like Fidelity etc if you have a cash account. They can lock you out for no reason other than suspicion. I’m not about to go into what happened to someone I know. Just Google it and you will see. It maybe your money but they have control. I stand by doing everything with cash.

QueenBia See my TER Reviews 68 reads
posted
8 / 29

Cash via direct deposit in my bank account.  

You can accept up to $19k per individual as a gift.  

If you prefer apps send 50% & the rest in cash, or I gladly accept installments.

1angelinajones See my TER Reviews 73 reads
posted
9 / 29
Meetkendrarae See my TER Reviews 80 reads
posted
10 / 29

Obv not a client, but... I actually stopped accepting cash myself as I only do longer engagements and it became too much of a hassle to carry it safely. Even storing it while we are together (housekeeping etc) then potential questions while flying. BTC, Zelle, Cashapp. But I usually have them break it up maybe around 2-4k a day to send to me and then the last payment when we're together. But really should only be done with a provider you can trust paying in semi-full before the date.

Readytorock1 43 Reviews 89 reads
posted
11 / 29

I dont like paper trails so its only cash.

100ProofOfLV See Agency Profile 71 reads
posted
12 / 29
MasterZen 34 Reviews 66 reads
posted
13 / 29

It pays to be known at your local bank branch. I make withdrawals in large amounts and if asked, simply say I am restoring classic cars and need to pay for parts or services in cash. The bank now knows I do this regularly. It avoids the concern of the bank filing a Suspicious Activity Report (SAR) or Currency Transaction Report (CTR) with FINCEN. I just keep individual withdrawals below $10k and varying in amount.

 
BTW, cash apps ARE required to file SARs under certain conditions, including large or apparent structured transactions. The general risk threshold for a SAR from a cash app is $5k, or at any amount if the transaction is suspicious (like, DO NOT put "escort" in the explanatory line).

TiannaTemptation See my TER Reviews 75 reads
posted
14 / 29

Cash always preferred in my case but living in Vegas large amounts of cash and hundred dollar bills are fairly commonplace.

Oatmeallover 65 reads
posted
15 / 29

Bitcoin serves.

looking4918 13 Reviews 67 reads
posted
16 / 29

Pulling 10K or more out of any bank or  financial institution will cause a report to be sent to the IRS. Probably not a good idea. On the other hand if you only do it once and a while over a few years you might be ok. Why risk it ?

Laspho 72 reads
posted
17 / 29

Risking what? If you pay your taxes what’s the issue?

36363jensen 4 Reviews 67 reads
posted
18 / 29

Why would that be reported to IRS? It's not income, it's your own money.

 
I think you're talking about the AML regulation but IRS isn't part of that I don't think. FinCEN and the US Treasury but IRS?

helixir 54 Reviews 60 reads
posted
19 / 29

Requirement and is aimed--ostensibly--at combating money laundering. Apparently the law's been on the book since the 80s.

impposter 49 Reviews 80 reads
posted
20 / 29

Be aware that some banks voluntarily submit reports on smaller transactions, e.g., $5000 and up. (That's how NYS Gov Spitzer was found out. He's a multimillionaire but made frequent $5000 cash withdrawals -- hay! It's his money, right?. The bank reports led LE wanting to know where the $5k multiples were going.)  
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliot_Spitzer_prostitution_scandal#Investigations
"The investigation of Spitzer was initiated after North Fork Bank[15] reported suspicious transactions to the Treasury Department's Financial Crimes Enforcement Network as required by the Bank Secrecy Act, which was enhanced by Patriot Act provisions, enacted to combat terrorist activity such as money laundering. ..."

Posted By: looking4918
Re: Over 10K
Pulling 10K or more out of any bank or  financial institution will cause a report to be sent to the IRS. Probably not a good idea. On the other hand if you only do it once and a while over a few years you might be ok. Why risk it ?

Laspho 66 reads
posted
21 / 29

Well I don’t plan on being governor and I’m still going to go gamble in casinos. I’ll take my chances with cash.

Readytorock1 43 Reviews 73 reads
posted
22 / 29

Deposting over 10k gets the red flag

impposter 49 Reviews 75 reads
posted
23 / 29

Don't sell yourself short! I wouldn't worry about your success or failure rate at the casinos: it is completely detached from your future political prospects. If you glance at the P&R board, you'll see that you could even become POTUS Laspho! MMGA: Make Mongering Great Again!

Posted By: Laspho
Re: Over 10K
Well I don’t plan on being governor and I’m still going to go gamble in casinos. I’ll take my chances with cash.

NordicMilf See my TER Reviews 55 reads
posted
24 / 29

I do a couple regular fmty dates on the west coast. Flying with $15k makes me nervous as fuck for very obvious reasons.  
I think I'd prefer it split into increments electronically with a smidge of walking around money in person.  
Of course I'm of the school that what makes you happy makes me happy as I'm a vibe matcher.

Lt_FrankDrebin 10 Reviews 63 reads
posted
25 / 29

Agreed.  

 
To be honest, I don’t remember the last time I tried to pull out close to 10k in cash, but I regularly pull out 4-5K. At my regular branch that I normally frequent, nobody bats an eye but I can go to another branch of the same bank a few miles away and ask for 1k and suddenly they’re asking for ID. What? I already identified myself when I brought up the account. You’re literally looking at the picture of me on file on your monitor with me standing in front of you and you want ID. Okay. Whatever.  

 
Also for whatever it’s worth, I have read that the cash apps are supposed to report payments as income if it’s over a few thousand per year, forgetting about any certain amount per transaction. So like if you have a regular dinner companion who always pays and you pay them back through Venmo, Venmo is going to report those payments as income for your friend and they’ll be liable for taxes on it.  

 
Full disclosure, I don’t remember where I read that but supposedly it’s coming. I believe it. The government is extremely interested in where every last dime goes and how to tax it each time it changes hands.

looking4918 13 Reviews 55 reads
posted
26 / 29

It's ben well know for many years pulling or depositing 10K or over in a account  of cash will cause a report to the IRS.  Its even referenced in the Epstein files released to the public. His Lawyers are on record asking how to avoid it. I find it amazing that this is not common knowledge. Be smart people ! And be safe.          

redfox7 45 Reviews 46 reads
posted
27 / 29

I would like to thank everyone who responded to my post. This year I took the funds out in cash over a 3 week period. I had no issues with my bank/credit union. They are familiar with me taking winter and early spring vacations.

The result was a second successful trip with a provider whom I am getting closer to. This trip was a 3 day driving trip to a local beach. She is looking forward to an encore next year. We have discussed a longer driving trip totaling 4 days or even flying somewhere together.

impposter 49 Reviews 49 reads
posted
28 / 29

Much of the discussion has been about avoiding Treasury / IRS violations ... which then trigger LE investigations.
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Currently, some Providers do operate "official" businesses of various sorts (DBAs, LLC, S-Corps, etc.) that allow to properly bank and spend their cash income. They file their taxes, pay various taxes their accountants advise them to pay (FDIC, income, etc.) and to take deductions and other benefits for business expenses. Some incorporate as "Consulting," "Catering," "Party Planning," and other IRS classified business.
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Are we yet at a place where larger payments can be paid as invoiced charges that will processed as business income, etc.?  
"Escort Party Planning and Catering"  
1 each Standard Party, Option 3  (venue, furniture rental, decorations, entertainment, ...) for up to 8 hours .... $5000
1 each Catering, Option 10 (food, drinks, and refreshments for up to 10 attendees (or maybe only two attendees ;-) ) .... $5000
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Total: $10,000.
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To your bank and the IRS, the payer is paying a bill.
The Provider is receiving a payment for services provided by her business.
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Are we there yet?

Posted By: redfox7
Re: Cash versus Payment Apps
I would like to thank everyone who responded to my post. This year I took the funds out in cash over a 3 week period. I had no issues with my bank/credit union. They are familiar with me taking winter and early spring vacations.  
   
 The result was a second successful trip with a provider whom I am getting closer to. This trip was a 3 day driving trip to a local beach. She is looking forward to an encore next year. We have discussed a longer driving trip totaling 4 days or even flying somewhere together.

leatass 9 Reviews 22 reads
posted
29 / 29
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