I wouldn't ask for a discount and I wouldn't complain about her price.  Just tell her it doesn't fit into your budget right now. Or tell her you're simply not available that week if you don't want to mention money at all.

"Yes I remember you, and would love to see you again, unfortunately $______ is not in my budget right now, hope to see you again some other time"

The ball is now in her court, he has neither "negotiated", nor has he made his problems hers. If she is interested in seeing him at a reduced price to meet his budget she is free to respond with an offer to meet for a reduced fee, if she has no interest in reducing her rate she can simply say " ok, see you next time" lol

Either way, no harm no foul, and no reason for either of them to "take it the wrong way".

Not yet at least, but it can be arranged.

and after reading a few of your posts, I expect to see it soon. You've been on the boards for all of about five minutes, have already had half your posts rejected, yet seem to think you know everything about everything.

Yes, I believe "rude" is coming. lolo

giving the gfe illusion
making us think that it isn't about the money.

I'm fine with that illusion as long as the ladies continue to lie to themselves... hopefully they'll eventually convince themselves that it is really true and end up giving me a freebie or two. Heh

Technically, they are indeed in the charity business though....since they give  away the pussy for free
only charging for the time.  

These ladies are saints, cuz it isn't about the money!

I almost never negotiate anymore , unless it is a long meeting or if she contacted me first. if it is a favorite lady, I try to tip her instead of asking discounts. usually most favorites do offer me discounts but the tip generally makes up the difference and it becomes a wash.

My schedule is usually full, and hobby budget limited,  so I end up turning down a lot of unsolicited offers unless the girl counters with a very attractive rate....

Even just getting together for drinks afterwords OTC may interest me enough to book a session. lol

Who gives a crap. Go ahead and spell it out to her. If she gets pissy, FUCK HER! Business is business. You play your hand and see who takes the bait. If they don't bite, you re-evaluate and up your ante. Whats the big fricken deal? If you haven't a greater pot to play, you fold. NEXT HAND!

You really must drop bye more often to 'wrestle'. lol

About a year ago, I visited with a well reviewed provider for two hours at $600. (Her 1 hour rate is $350) I had a good time, but not great. For me and this area that is at the upper range of pricing.

I've got to manage my hobby budget carefully, so I pay attention to how much fun I have for how many dollars.  In this case though the fun was high, the price was higher.

She is touring into my area and contacted me about a visit. I'd like to see her not at her published rates.

My question is do I tell her what is going on. On her website she has said it is rude to ask about pricing. Is there a difference between asking for a lower price and telling her that money is tight and I just can't swing it? I don't want to be 'disrespectful' conversly, I've always felt that it doesn't hurt to ask.

Any opinion from providers would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

that inquires if she offers a "repeat customer discount" you may get a reply.  But I would assume that the reply will not be until she has determined how "busy" she is during her visit.

Or she can simply write you off on her DNS list...who knows how a gal might respond!

Stay away from the "money is tight" issue...as that is NOT her problem...it's yours.  If that is indeed the real issue, find someone who is in your budget.

Try to negotiate her service, not her rate, and the second time around is always better

If you have already seen her, then it wouldn't be rude to ask. I understand every1 has to budget. R u planning on seeing her for 2 hours again and cannot afford the $600 rate? If that is the case, how much did you want to spend? $500? I think if you r willing to spend $500 for 2 hours, I think she might do it.

Wut about for the hour? How much did you want to save? $50? If its $50, then I don't think that's a bad idea either. Sure, just tell her you've seen her before and ask if she can accommodate you. I don't think there is any harm in it. If you e-mail her or something like that, I think its appropriate. She can always reject your proposal with a reason.

If you r really in a tight budget and you want to have drastic decreases on her rates, then its probably better to save your money for the next one. Hope things works out for the best for you.

Don't negotiate.  It doesn't make you look good at all.  When I first began doing this, I would get negotiators and basically us providers see it this way:

1. If you need to negotiate, look for someone that's cheaper.
2. Why would you be looking for a provider if you don't have the money?
3. You have bad character.

It's never really about the money.  At least for me it's not.

She contacted him, not the other way around.

sheesh, some people really need to read before they respond.

I don't see anything wrong with letting her know that right now your budget is tight and you can only afford $500 (any less might be a waste of her time.) She contacted you, so she obviously considers you someone worth seeing. The worse that can happen is she will say no. Then you can still ask for a 1.5 hour rate or go for an hour.

when a gal is sending out those emails looking to secure her appointments for a "tour", I consider that different than if Johnny is making the contact and looking to just "negotiate her down" because he simply can't afford the gal he wanted to see.

That is why I suggested to the OP to counter with some dialogue that will, in all probability, require her to reply...one way or the other.  And he would need to be prepared that the gal is fully booked and has now put him on her DNS list.

But as we've discussed, some guys here will have no problems suggesting (in whatever form) a discount, while others would NEVER dream of making that suggestion.  Come to think of it, we haven't had that "debate" for a while!

I read everything.  She contacted him but if he doesn't want to pay that then just tell her he can't. Period...Sheesh people on here are really rude.

So you do this for the thrill of it all....not according to your TER page.

You charge for your time...so DON'T embarass yourself with asinine comments that suggest "It's not about the money".

It's all about the money, which is why you posted to the OP!

Provider raises rates, volume decreases, provider advertises specials at the original or below. Most cases, they will negotiate with themselves.
All providers are going to sing in unison on this subject, it is in their best interest to swim synchronous.

I have range, I stick to, no matter what!

And when you put it that way, I guess I was really WAY out of line calling that gal out.

Considering that the Holiday season is basically here, I am sure that she will be giving away all her time for "charity"....because it's not about the money.  Perhaps she'll PM me and offer to see me (and of course you since you were so kind to point this out) as part of her charitable giving since she doesn't do any of this "for the money".  Hell...she should PM everyone here and just give us all freebies.

But I suspect she'll just sort of slink off into the sunset...shovel in hand...and return with an alias!

I disagree.  I rarely tour, but when I do, I always ask "new friends", if they would like to be contacted via e-mail, about future visits.  This is a courtesy, as I like to give "old friends" priority, before advertising.  If the gentleman reserves time with me, every time I visit, I usually will offer a small discount, or allow him extra time  Rarely, though, does the gentleman take me up on it, and I usually find my full gift in the envelope.  No, it's not always about the money, but having the gentleman feel special.  

Hugs and Kisses

What makes you think this is unique? We would all like to see every provider at a discounted rate. But we do not.

There are a lot of reasons why this is the case. The way I see it, the initial contact is a lot like foreplay - you are setting a tone. For the lady, controlling the transaction is critical. For you, getting the best treatment you can should be your priority, IMO. Making her feel like a commodity who is only worth $X because she is pretty much interchangeable with any of the other local ladies you see - not such a great way to assure she gives you her best performance. Trust me on this, because I have learned it through experience.

Having said that, there may be ways to get a better price, but the key is to ask yourself whether or not you plan to see her before you start. Because if she offers you a better price and you still turn her down, you become that tire-kicking window-shopper, and you do not want to be that guy. What you want to be is that valued regular who gets special treatment and treats. Isn't that worth a few extra bucks? You know it is.

Have you searched to see if she publishes any other pricing, offers specials or discounts? Even if they do not seem to apply, it cannot hurt to ask if they do. She may counter at a price higher than the one you mention, but lower than the published price. Even if you do not find such prices, you can always ask if she offers any discount for pre-booking.

The last option is the one you seem to be considering - telling her you have a budget. The problem with that approach is that the logical and most likely solution is to offer you less time, which respects her rates and your budget. Since it sounds like that will not give you what you want, it means you will end up being one kind of asshole or another - either a lying negotiator if you just end up paying her rate for the longer visit, or the window-shopper if you say no and walk away.

At the end of the day, the problem is mostly in your head. The market says her rates are just fine since she is still in business and coming back to your (cheaper) city once again. You enjoyed her services and want to see her again, so even you admit she is delivering good value. But you can't get it out of your head that she is charging x% more than other ladies you see, and that is bothering you. So you either need to get past the idea that no lady is worth more than $250/hour, or walk away. Otherwise, there is no way this turns out well for you.

zig

It is ALWAYS about the money...let's not kid ourselves.  This is a business transaction, and those who believe otherwise post the "I've fallen for a provider" posts!  If you want to comment on it NOT being about the money, then you are clearly on the wrong board (IMHO).

We can debate the aspects of discounting (as we have done many times here...just not recently), and there will always be the guy who has to have it, the guy who won't consider it, and the in between guys (like the OP).

And when ladies travel (tour), to honestly think most of us don't understand what that "asking new friends and old friends" is YOUR attempt is to make sure that you will make out OK on your tour.  This is good business and I have NO qualms in this process.  But the OP was asked if he was interested...expressed that he is but not at her prices...and was asking opinions as to his best way to proceed.

And given how this board works, he got all the answers he could handle (and from all sides of the perspective).  Now it is up to him to decide what works best for HIM.

The one thing I would like to see the gals do is have a bit of consistency in these types of replies.  But unfortunately most are actively marketing while answering, hence those replies tend to be blurred from reality (IMHO).

And I'm not excluded from that contingent.  However, having been self-employed most of my adult life I have learned that if you don't ask you don't receive.  And occassionally you will NOT get what you asked for.  And as you said...simply move on to the next "mark".

But it amazes me here that reading post after post on "discounts" over the past couple of years that there are so many guys here that are "scared of offending another self employed person (read as provider)".  If the gal is any good at this business they have experienced this a number of times.  And if they are so busy that they can ignore this request, more power to them.

But as the OP asked, a gal traveling is doing so to generate business.  If she was already "booked up" she wouldn't have sent him this invite!  So why not ask if there is room to negotiate.  All she can say is NO...but if she isn't all that busy the guy may indeed get his price...and maybe an OTC dinner to boot.  But he has a 100% of none of that unless he asks.

And the gals who have their BS degrees (that would be bull shit degrees), or their MS (more shit) and those working on their PhD (piled higher and deeper)...get a grip on things.  There is a contingent of guys who have a pretty good idea how this game is played.  But the nonsense and babble will work on the majority of unsuspecting guys...as we have seen those guys post their problems over the years.

I'm only speaking my mind honey.  I am open minded though.  You don't seem to be.  Muah baby!

I mean when it comes down to negotiating girls dont say no because of the money they say no becaue it's the principle of the thing.  That's what I meant.  Hope I made that clear

That is just a bunch of nonsense...period.  A gal sets a price and someone questions it.  And you find that "offensive".  The principle here is that you have come up with some number.  How you get to it is none of my business...I don't care!

But if you are slow this week...rent is due...car payment is past due...and there are not a lot of inquiries going on you would still NOT consider getting paid something for your "time"?

And if you want to stand on that principle..fine by me.  But that is what all those folks who are clamoring for change are protesting.  At the hourly rates you are suggesting that you would balk at only something slightly less, take your ass down to the protest and tell that to those folks who can't get a job that pays more than $ 8.00 an hour.  

And then come back (assuming you're still in one piece) and tell me how that went over with those folks.  You will not convince me that there is a principle here...and I doubt I will convince you otherwise.

Yes. I believe it is coming.

As a matter of fact, let me slam this drink, get another one, REREAD this fucking shit, then I will be MORE than happy to say what I fucking think.

That is, if anyone cares to read it?  

highest around.  Not sure how guys can afford to play there.

And she ain't the only, you know...  

The way I SEE IT, if a lady calls you, texts, PM, WTF-ever, and let's you know she's coming to town it's up to the guy to say yeah or nay, whether it's a 'financial thang' or he just can't justify her rates cuz he didn't have that much fun with her in the firstplace.

He could be a sneaky bastard about it and say 'I'd love to see you! But I just had the headgaskets on my car engine done, and I really can't afford your rates at this time.' thinking she wasn't booked all to hell and she would rather get 3c's instead of sitting in a hotel room hoping for the 5c's from some other schlub just to get his dick wet and line her Gucci bag.

Or What-ever-the fuck these ladies buy for purses.

Don't get me started what they spend THE GUY'S money on...

Gambler's fucking right. You'd be a fucking fool to think that when a lady posts she's coming to town, and actually contacts past 'friends', should she be surprised if not every guy jumps up, empties his bank account, and stands inline to see her.

Shit. It's guys like you that go meet these ladies, under their circumstances when you know fucking well if they didn't already have a 'real' job, they'd have to if their attitude didn't match their looks or their performance.

Fucking guys like you, swear to fucking God, make me sick!

You show up, all 'Howdy sweet lady! Can I give you $$$$ to stick my tallywhacker in you for 10 minutes, then cuddle for the rest of the two hours? If you want to leave after the 10 minutes, I'm OK with that, though. (sniffle, sniffle. tear balling up in your cornea).

Ahh, just fucking with you, CPA! Truth be told, I can be a nice guy. When I want to be.

But Gambler's right. A lady will book in a different city depending on how many guys wanna see her. If it's a bust before she gets legit guys, especially one's that want an overnight that pay deposits, it's a crap shoot. That's when she does things like call a guy or two she knows is from that city.

In essence, they're keeping each other on a string. He politely backed down, but in the back of his head, if he's smart, will know she MIGHT, and I stress the word 'might', give that guy she already saw a call and say 'Hey. My date fell thru tonight. Wanna come to the Fuck-Me-Proper-Inn for a drink or two and do what the sign says for 3 instead of 5?'

Sure as shit beats masturbating infront of soft-core Cinemax for both parties. He gets it wet, she makes a few bucks. WTF?

For example, if she says lets do an overnight, and you respond, that's great, but I can only afford a four hour session, and then she says don't sweat it, that will be fine and you can stay over anyways; then that is her deciding.

Of course never ever mention this to anyone for her sake!

Tight lips are always a good thing, if you know what I mean.

principles my fucking ass.

Somehow the prostitutes in this country have convinced the men that negotiating is offensive, and the men, saps that they are, have bought into this bullshit hook line and sinker.

EVERYONE will negotiate at one time or another, the only difference is whether you negotiate from a position of strength, (good times) or a position of weakness (bad times), but even other professionals like attorneys and accountants are likely to negotiate at times.

I negotiate all the time, I don't find it insulting, it's just the nature of business.

when you use ME and drinking in the same sentence.lol

If The_Mrs catches on to that she'll crawl up your ass so far.....well you get the picture

I'm sober and HATING EVERY SECOND OF IT! The things you do for love!

It's your ass that she'll be crawling up. Our drunken friend can get as drunk as he likes and blow as many chunks as he likes, without fear for his life. it's YOUR ass that needs to stay sober. lol

......I have to be in that city anyway.  If I can entertain while I am there; great.

  I do, however, agree with the rest of your post, as I was looking at his question from a different perspective.

Hugs and Kisses

I think the "money is tight" excuse wouldn't fly if the contact was initiated by him.  She contacted him in this case so it's perfectly acceptable to say "I enjoyed our time together last time we met but I'm not in a position to spend as much this time around" and then ask for either a discounted rate a shorter session or simply say "I'll see you next time".  

So long as he's straight forward, respectful and explains his financial situation I don't think there would be a problem.

I think a lot of ladies need to realize that we're in a recession and if a guy isn't willing to pay your listed price it may not be a reflection on you personally, but rather an indication of the economic situation the nation is in.  People simply have less disposable income nowadays and it impacts certain sectors more so than others.  I guess you could place this in the "leisure, recreation and tourism" sector, meaning it's a luxury and not a necessity like food, gas etc.  People tend to spend less on luxuries during tight times.  Again, it's not a reflection of the ladies or the quality of their service but simply an economic reality.

Just to clarify, I'm talking about guys who (a) respond to contacts initiated by providers(like the OP) and (b) guys who simply choose not to see ladies who charge more than they're willing to spend.  I am NOT talking about (c) guys who go to a site, see that a lady charges a certain amount, contacts her fully knowing what her rates are and then tries to negotiate his way down to a lower price.