I can't seem to find the list of talked to death subjects around here and I didn't lurk first so if anyone can point that out, great.
Sorry if this is one, I can't seem to get much from the search function yet.
What if it was a positive experience for both, but circumstances changed and you wouldn't be calling her anymore. I feel like I want to tell her what a good time I had with her and I'm sorry I wont be seeing her and it has nothing to do with her. I can't fathom what a provider would think though, clue me in. thanks
just to be clear, I wasn't planning on doing it, I never have before, this just seems different because I know she's low volume and counts on my cash. I'm sure there's no personal feelings either way. just wondering if maybe i should let her know for planning purposes, thanks
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lol, no she doesn't have any of my money, what sort of an idiot would pay ahead??? What do you take me for ;
attrition both in case of hookers losing clients, and clients losing hookers is the norm.
So unless there was an agreement between two of you to see each other on extended basis, or you conveyed to her directly or indirectly that she could bank on you being there, there is no need..
Just my opinion...
she is right at the end of her career and just needs a few more months to finish school, it's understood we are regulars, but no real spoken agreement other than we like seeing each other. I will feel shitty if I just ignore her, sorry. This isn't about me, it would be a lot easier for me to do nothing.
So unless there was an agreement between two of you to see each other on extended basis, or you conveyed to her directly or indirectly that she could bank on you being there, there is no need..
Just my opinion...
Seriously dude.. You will have far better hobbying experience if you stop playing Capt "Save-A-Ho" and just do what gives you most satisfaction in bed...
See her if you are enjoying getting your dick sucked. If you want to move on to other gals, and think that's more fun, do just that !!!
Now for $50.00
When people say they don't 'need' your business, sure, they like it, but there are many other guys who will P4P. (Depending on her price range.)
Like the old thread says, I would just move on, then tell her if she asks you. I get guys who are regulars who stop contacting me for appointments, then pop up out of nowhere a few months later after playing with others. Some never call back.
Part of our job is to leave a dude alone. We're not supposed to need anyone, and they're not supposed to get attached. Both can then break it off by ... Just not getting together as if they never knew each other.
'Discreetness is big here. It's as if this never happened.
Obviously not much thinking. Courtney hit it right on the head!
And you still asked this question? Do you enjoy being laughed at and insulted? ![]()
I just saw the term "break up letter" and it fit what I was thinking about.
If you just said something to the effect that you are very glad that you had a chance to get to know her and leave the "I won't be comin' round no more" part just hinted at or understood, it would be a gracious way to good-bye.
This is something Robin Young should weigh in on. She'd probably give you a definitive answer that could be trusted.
and I'm not talking about the government. No Strings Attached, that why many of us do this. No break up letters required. Clients come and go all the time, as do escorts. Just move on. If you can't seem to move, try a round of sport fucking. That should do the trick.
maybe you just skimmed the thread, I have moved on, I just dont want to be a jerk to a girl I like, wtf is the big deal about this??
we don't have much contact at all , she is extremely busy so we've gotten where we email each other when we are free. She is she is sure contact me as usual. I have to answer or ignore.
and tell her what the deal is. If she doesn't don't worry about it. Suspect that regulars drop off the map all the time.
If you've been seeing some gal regularly for like a year or more, believe it or not, she might worry that something happened to you if you just all of a sudden stop calling. Yes, some providers actually do care about people they have been seeing for so long, because friendships are formed. If I were you, I would WAIT for her to contact you asking "Are you ok?" I can bet you, that is exactly what's going to happen if you do nothing.
You don't owe her an explanation, but I bet if she decided to fall off the map tomorrow, she would see it as a courtesy to alert her regulars she was not going to be available anymore... especially those she talked to and saw weekly or monthly for a long time.
He is not talking about a courtesy email. It seems that he is truly torn that he can't see her because of whatever reason and desperately wants to convey it. If it were a truly courtesy email, I bet you he would not have titled the thread BREAK UP LETTER.. Its clear that he is making this out to be more than it is. Go back and read the post. He is feeling guilty for not being able to see her...lol
If the circumstances have truly changed, I am sure she will understand, if she's a sensible person.
And who says they can't keep in touch.. I occasionally still receive PMs from some gals who have retired long ago...
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Because he saw the pound of flesh we took from springer89.
I also remember this is the guy who started to have feelings for a lady he did taxes for and she left with more assets than him.
Wtf is going on, uncle bill?
the other lady was 7 years ago when I was a newbie, this is current events
I also remember this is the guy who started to have feelings for a lady he did taxes for and she left with more assets than him.
Wtf is going on, uncle bill?
Well in that case, save it. Christ. We don't care WHY you don't want to see us again.. really, we don't. If you've all of a sudden developed some puppy dog type affection/adoration, I really don't care! I do not want a married man or ANY client that has paid to fk me, thinking about me in any other way besides a fk... in fact, I find that highly offensive to both his wife and myself! That's just the brutal truth.
All I want to know is if a guy I have seen weekly for a damn year just fell off the map. I would start thinking all sorts of crazy things like "His wife found out and has my email," or "He got in a bad accident and died." If it's not any of those things, I really don't give two shits about why a client wants another p*ssy. That's why providers exist... for variety.
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Why are you taking this personally...my little hooktard..
C'mon now.. I know you care about people.. But please tell me you didn't read between the lines how torn this guy is to tell someone that he can't see her. Almost like he got subpoenaed by the Mangina Court... AND now he has to write back.... ![]()
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I'm afraid you don't seem to be listening. I don't feel guilty. She wont care, except for the money, she openly admitted in the 1st 5 min on the first date that she was only seeing me because she needed the money and would quit at the first opportunity. she will completely understand.
I want to do nothing, its the easy way out.
I only titled it "break up letter" because people in the other thread were calling it that.
If the circumstances have truly changed, I am sure she will understand, if she's a sensible person.
And who says they can't keep in touch.. I occasionally still receive PMs from some gals who have retired long ago...
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It's just the NSA facts-of-life.
You may be an outlier there. If I were a retiring lady, I would keep let ATFs know and that's about it.
Escorts contacting clients is frowned upon, so while some ladies do it, many don't and he would just be waiting and waiting for her "are you ok" email.
PS. Nice to see you here ![]()
Her emailing me only developed because we were having a hard time scheduling. Since she is like 100 times more busy than me, it made sense and I suggested it. Only one other girl ever emailed me for a date and it turned out she had a drug issue.
PS. Nice to see you here
We are not talking about cold calling some dude you've only seen a few times, but if I have been talking and seeing a guy for a year, damn right I am going to wonder if he got hit by a truck, if his wife found out, etc. if he all of a sudden is dead silent. Truth be told, there were only about five guys who would fall into that LTR category, so we are not talking about 50 guys here.
I still would never send them an unsolicited email, except for one client (friend) who I see for overnights at least once a month (typically more). We email nightly, so if time went by and I hadn't heard from him, I'd probably reach out. But I wouldn't do that w/ all my clients (friends). And I'm not talking cold calling either. It's just ingrained in me not to email my long-term clients (friends) first. I just don't do it b/c I've always allowed them to reach out to me on their terms and that won't ever change for me. I was being playful in my initial post to you b/c I know there are ladies who call and text b/c they need money, but if we're being serious, it's just not my style unless I already talk to a dude everyday. And I don't do that w/ most of my clients (friends). But in the OP case, it appears the OP said that's how they do things and I respect that. I actually missed that point, otherwise I wouldn't have made the joke. And yes, literally every single one of my clients (or friends) have been around for 5+ years, so I don't do the 50 guy thing, not that there's anything wrong w/ that in my eyes. more power to escorts who handle their biz the way the see fit and make as much money possible. Now off to enjoy some more vodka. have a good night xoxoxoxoxo
PS. If the difference btwn clients and friends you're referring to is seeing guys off-the-clock
for drinks for free, I understand that's a big difference, and personally, I won't ever seek completely non-p4p friendships among men in this world, but there's nothing wrong if other ladies (I spend that time w/ friends I've met in the real world, b/c thats my style). So just to clarify when I'm referring to "clients" and "friends" I mean those I've know for YEARs but yes, they p4p so technically, they're still clients by definition. Just in case I read your post wrong. Take care.
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She calls and texts you- whereby you can drop a btw, you ARE the shit, not WERE- don't say anything and definitely don't break up.
It's stupid Mangina stuff.
As I said, I believe to JerrySpringer, leave it alone in case you might want a sentimental fuck one day.
And what might those changed circumstances be, dare I ask?
The changed circumstances don't matter at all here, she wont care and I wont tell her. Truth is I've moved on and found the girls who will occupy me for the foreseeable future. /
It's stupid Mangina stuff.
As I said, I believe to JerrySpringer, leave it alone in case you might want a sentimental fuck one day.
And what might those changed circumstances be, dare I ask?
"I won't be able to see you anymore. It's been a blast and I wish you all the best." Done.
She'll probably be glad to get a heads-up and won't give two shits for the reason why. I do suspect that you'll be really hurt when she doesn't ask why or beg you to come back.
that's pretty much what it would be, she won't care at all why or be upset either, in all my deals with her we have have never had a an email longer than 2 sentences, I doubt this one would be different.
She'll probably be glad to get a heads-up and won't give two shits for the reason why. I do suspect that you'll be really hurt when she doesn't ask why or beg you to come back.
Do whatever you want to (isn't that what this hobby is all about anyway?).
If you want to say, "hey, just a quick note to let you know..." then go for it.
Stop the hand-wringing, be decisive, "own" your decisions.
If YOU later see mistakes in your actions, then learn from them - and move on.
Don't overthink things like this
This is what I had planned to do before reading the other thread, then decided to just let it go, it would be easier and maybe better? But I expect this email anytime and it feels like I should say something. idk thanks for the input
If you want to say, "hey, just a quick note to let you know..." then go for it.
Stop the hand-wringing, be decisive, "own" your decisions.
If YOU later see mistakes in your actions, then learn from them - and move on.
Don't overthink things like this.
You're welcome.
I think some of the other late replies here are good too.
I look at everything this way - just be yourself, while at the same time trying to understand the realities of this hobby.
Only you have to live with the consequences of your decisions in this hobby - not anyone else on this board.
Try to be a decent guy, and trust your own judgement.
I say this because this is what I've done in my short one year in the hobby.
Have I made a mistake or two?
Maybe, but I have no regrets - because I treat people with respect.
If you have been seeing a woman regularly, you enjoyed your time with her, connections were made, and maybe even a friendship formed, I do not see any harm in sending a nice note thanking her and wishing her all the best. If the shoe was on the other foot, she was retiring or something, wouldn't you want to know rather than her dropping completely off the map and your emails ignored or bounced back. Frankly, I see it as a nice courtesy.
And Springer's now infamous break-up letter had a VERY different purpose and context. Not a good comparison in your situation.
In the end, YOU should do what is authentic for YOU, and not rely on the opinions of others.
Just my 2c, and best of luck to you!
Spartan
You were not in a 'real' LTR, you were not boyfriend/girlfriend. It sounds to me like it should be more of a 'Bon Voyage" letter if any thing...
Very poor choice of words.
I don't buy the post-hoc explanation.
Unless he misunderstands how to use a headline...
you will learn that what you see is what you get with me, I think it's quite pointless to BS in any way, unless it's about fishing, tuning secrets or if some chick wants to know my "real name". lol
I don't buy the post-hoc explanation.
Unless he misunderstands how to use a headline...
Than the other thread. You guys have been seeing each other on a regular basis, correct? And thing have been going well? In that case, a nice "my circumstances have changed, but I'm so glad that I was able to meet you" note wouldn't be out of line, and would be welcome, I think. If we seemed to have really clicked and then you suddenly drop off, we do wonder if you're ok, or even if we were the ones who caused the relationship to end.
I know it might seem weird that a nice good bye letter is more ok than a not so nice one, but the difference is the meaning behind it, and the way it comes off.
I've developed a rapport with this guy on the boards named AnotherDonJohn, and I'm thinking that maybe before I go I should send him an email just to let him know that he won't be seeing me on the board anymore, and... Well, what do folks think?
we host a big M&G, maybe in NYC (although not organized by GED), where the departing member fronts the cash,
but gets first dibs on all the aged hookers over 40.
We could ask one of the premiere ladies like HookTardGold, JLS, RT, the Cos, CO, or TS (forgive me if I've forgotten you) to jump out of a cake.
That's the least I could do for a dear acquaintance that I met on a free f-ckboard.
Wait, you're not LE are you? lol
some perspective: When I was at lunch with my brothers on Saturday, the cute waitress was flirting openly with me. I had to leave before they did, so I picked up the check and left a 20 dollar tip for the waitress on the table. I'm afraid that one of my dumbass brothers thought it was a mistake and picked it up, since the bill was less than 40 bucks, and left a not like UncleBill sort of tip. I care more about the girl in this story, but have been more worried about the tip for the waitress, lol
A Fav provider I've seen periodically over 5 years... decided to retire. She picked up my last call & informed me she had gotten a day job & would not be offering services in the future. I'm sad to see her go because I enjoyed her services & we became friendly acquaintances.
A Fav provider had been ill, told me she'd been recently hospitalized & had an asthma attack while I was still there. She used her inhaler & I declined to leave until I was sure she was responding. Shortly thereafter, her ads & web site went down. I was sad because I liked her services & would have given her a retirement gift if that was true. Interestingly, I've begun seeing ads for her again & have made contact. We'll meet up again soon.
A Fav provider... my first in fact, on & off over 6 years... I like her & enjoy her services. But there's been a lot of drama over the years as well. Any one of which would be forgivable. But there is a pattern. She does gift me OTC time.
We had a scheduling misunderstanding our last visit... she reamed me for about 20 minutes... when I got there. I arrived just at the time I had on most recent meetings, was later that our earlier ones because I stopped to buy us fixings for a nice lunch, as I have been doing. (It's a long drive, I need to eat & so does she. She ends up with enough left over for a couple of days.) Again, I understand the reason for her stress this time, which if she'd told me how unusually tight her schedule was, I'd have rescheduled or done things differently.
This long drive has become a problem for me as I can't go AWOL for a whole day as before. And I really didn't like being reamed like that after a hour + half drive. I came very close to walking out. She knows she crossed the line... but you can't un-ring a bell. I usually drop an Thank You email after I get home... I didn't this time & she emailed me to see if I was OK. I was home safe. But we're not OK.
I won't say I won't go back... but I'm not promising to either. She knows or should know, what the issue is. Contacting her would be a waste of time
Nothing says you don't care like singing the cover of an overcovered love ballad.
I agree writing a letter to tell a provider you've been seeing regularly all the things she did wrong and why you wont see her anymore is stupid and should be avoided.
What if it was a positive experience for both, but circumstances changed and you wouldn't be calling her anymore. I feel like I want to tell her what a good time I had with her and I'm sorry I wont be seeing her and it has nothing to do with her. I can't fathom what a provider would think though, clue me in. thanks
what you feel is best and not worry about what everyone else thinks?
Hell, it's just a woman and she'll either appreciate it or not. You may never know what her response actually WAS. Therefore, writing that "letter" is just for you... and just maybe, she'll appreciate it too. So long as you're not doing the creepy or stalker thing.
I don't understand why it's a concern at all.
What will happen will happen whether you fret over it or not.
succeeded in grasping the stone from my hand!
Since you've been seeing her somewhat regularly, she deserves a goodbye.
I've gotten a few letters from guys who've moved out of the area...they just wanted to say "hello" and explain why they hadn't been in touch. In all cases, it was nice to hear from them and not at all an intrusion.
If you just don't go back without a word...she WILL wonder.
If it wasn't a hobby/client situation...you'd say goodbye. So you should do the same here.
Or, how many times did you see the client ? 3 visits? 10?
I assume it would be odd if you saw a client every couple of weeks for a year and he abruptly cut off communication without notice. Not the same if it was only 3-4 times a year.
…there's nothing wrong with saying goodbye. It's preferable, actually. And all you have to say is something like: "Hey xxx. I've enjoyed spending time with you over the years, and while I won't be able to see you anymore due to a few circumstances, I want you to know that if things change, I'll be in touch for more sexy fun and good memories with you. Take care. - xxx
I've had a few clients over the years tell me that they wouldn't be able to see me for different reasons (unrelated to our times together), but they enjoyed our times together and if/when they could, they would be back to see me again. Even though this is p4p and boundaries are important, I care about many of my long-term clients, and am always happy to receive a "good-bye" or "until next time" email. Feels much better than wondering whatever happened to them…did I do something wrong…etc.
I received the expected email this morning and emailed back saying I won't be seeing her anymore, sorry and thanks for a good time. Without the input here, I most likely would have made a bigger production out of it and made it worse all around.