My ATF is a not very reliable 21 yr old who is so hot and the only provider who makes me O so deep.
I was trying to set up an appointment with her last Thursday, so I could see her yesterday (Monday). I tried to confirm Sunday, but have never heard from her. I got Dead Silence for 3 days. Now she has done this before, but I'm under her spell and don't take offense when she goes on days for not answering me.
Then, suddenly at 7 pm today, she text me and says "I'm doing an emergency half-hour session with you now, get me my cash." I said, "I'm preoccupied now, tomorrow. But don't worry, I will help you". She says "OK". She's done this the second time now.
She's now getting addicted to me as her emergency ATM machine. And I'm getting addicted to her, because she let's me do what I want during our time together. Something no other provider has really done.
I like the fact that she is getting dependent on me and I have $ to spend on her weekly. The only thing that I hate is that sometimes when she gets moody she doesn't answer the phone.
Any of you had an experience with an unreliable but irresistable provider who always keeps comin back to you when they need dough, and you just can't resist them because she is the Numero One in your book ?
I've fucked plenty of hot young and very open minded girls who were unreliable. Once n Done.
To stay on my dance card, she's got to be very attractive, make me extremely happy sexually, be very open-minded, have excellent people skills, communicate well, and be *reliable*.
Too many really excellent providers out there to get fixated on a drama machine. There is *no such thing* as an irresistible provider, because there is always another excellent experience around the corner.
A provider, by definition, should be someone to whom you have no strong emotional attachments.
Hence, they are resistible.
Hell, I don't think there is such a thing as an irresistible woman at all; much less provider. I've always been able to say no if I wished.
(*shrug*)
For me, irresistibility is a function of emotional state. What makes a woman irresistible to me is if I love her intensely and wish to please her.
But even at that, even when I was 18, for whatever reason I have always been able to say no.
By definition, the hobby is not about forming intense love attachments to providers. It can happen, but that isn't the general intent.
Thus, something that has never been the case with a civie woman with me would be even less likely in an environment in which intense love attachments are discouraged.
Thus, so far anyway, there has never been an irresistible provider for me.
That is not to say that I do not enjoy their company. I do. But I do not have sex with them because I feel compelled or am bereft of reason. Rather, I have sex with them because it is my choice because I LIKE them as people.
Uhm, yeah. It's called "when GFE turns to GFA (girl friend attitude).
My ATF is about to be given the boot for just that. She sounds like your ATF (are you in Houston, lol?)
Been going on 2.5 years now. I admit, I've pre-paid quite a few times, big amounts, among other favors that has taken me out of my way time wise quite a bit. Never really worried she'd come through. Spent a ton of time together, and know each other well, sex is great. But I can no longer get past her inability to return a text, phone call, or email in a timely manner during any other time than when she needs an advance or something else. Not when I'm trying to make plans in advance, and I have such a busy schedule. I just can't be that rude to not return a communication in a timely way, and it pisses me off no end when that courtesy is not returned. I'm not some unproven newbie client wasting her time. And it's not like we have a lot of contact. A text once every week or three.
Her availability for OTC time when I'm bringing the cash advance is almost limitless. To get together for anything else? Uhm, no. And that would be fine were I to be given consieration of a reliable, favor giving rate. Uhm, again, no. To add "insult to injury" I discovered some time ago, she'd reduced her rates on her website significantly (tough times in this economy). No mention of it, and I'm still paying the same old higher rates. I refuse to bring it up and "bargain" as it's tacky. And, further salt in the wound, find out she travels and sees someone (including travel time) for weekends for a rate considerably less than what I pay.
It's not that we don't have a spectacular time together. We do. But her "greed" is circumstance driven (business slowing down). What she doesn't realize is had she not behaved this way, she'd of walked out with considerably more bones at the end of the "business day" than she has.
I'm done with it. Time to go back to a strictly P4P arrangement with a new one. No room in this business for resentment or angst, and that's what it has come to. Does not pay to be a good guy in this hobby. To do so lands you in the "sucker" and "mangina" bin.
"Does not pay to be a good guy in this hobby."
Now that's just sad to have one lady make you think that way. And in respect to providers, you have one crappy client who takes advantage of you and you feel the same way about other clients.
May I gently state that you were part of letting her treat you this way and had you put your foot down (gently), it may not have come to you feeling that being a good guy is not worth it.
I love the good guys and try my best not to see guys who feel that being good is a bad thing. it ruins things for everyone. Have some boundaries and call someone on their poop.
We only allow others to treat us the way they do, both good and bad. Please don't turn into a "bad guy" and you are no "sucker"...you just got sucked in with the little head doing your thinking for you. Happy Hobbying Dorfdep
Personally, I'm with GTM with his post, but that's me. From the dynamics of the relationship you've described, it almost seems like her not answering the phone is part of what is making this work for you. If she was totally responsive to your calls, would the relationship be the same?
stability, and maturity, I could NEVER have an ATF of 21 yrs old. But as long as you seem willing to continue to shell out bucks for a moody brat, I guess it's all good. My freaking daughter is 25 and totally impossible to deal with. I can't imagine a 21 yr old version of Bevis or Butthead .
To anser your ???...NO no one that unreliable becomes irresistable. Right noiw I see a couple in their 30's. They will make the time for me, and never call in between times due to being cash strapped!
I would not say you are an ATM....more like an everyday, ordinary sucker, who is not much more mature that the little girl you can't help but pay when she needs it. Just marry her!!!
Nope. Never had that experience. And, can’t imagine why I would.
Unless, I had a penis that could think for me. Which I don’t.
Mine are all silicone and do only what I tell them.
If men didn't have penises to think for them, most women would be judged by men under the same level of scrutiny that women usually apply to men.
And that, I fear, would be a very undesirable outcome for too many women.
Likely, you are enjoying climate control invented by men in architecture designed by men. You drive to work using mechanisms designed by men on roads built mainly by men.
Of course, men haven't done half badly. Lessee ... you are using a computer invented by men that uses electricity discovered by men to communicate over an Internet invented by men using protocols invented by men.
To denigrate men.
LMFAO
I like you hotplants because you've got spunk and brains; but sometimes instead of reading anti-male propaganda you should step back and take time to appreciate all that men have enabled.
No, men aren't perfect. But women aren't either.
And likely your well-behaved silicone penises wouldn't exist were it not for the male chemist who invented silicone.
Enjoy them in good health.
Wow John, it seems that you really took offense at hotplants making the statement that she uses silicone penises and that can't complain etc..(my words). I don't think she means that she prefers silicone penises over the real thing. But I could be wrong.
Yes we have men to thank for a lot of the worlds innovations and for a lot of the problems too. Let's be fair and not paint men as the be all and end all. Historically men have had more opportunity and education to be able to achieve what they have done. It's only now that women out number men in tertiary education both enrollment and graduation.
All things being equal throughout history, the outcome may have been quite different.
Men are fabulous for their strengths as are women. Neither is better just different. And men will never be replaced by toys...
Yes, hotplants prefers silicone over the real thing, I think -- which is her absolute right.
Yes, I was slightly offended; but trying to contextualize that though men have their weaknesses (e.g. poor multitasking, think with penis) they also have their strengths.
We agree that men are a mixed bag. Men invented telephones and nerve gas. That should pretty much say it all. LOL
And had women had the same opportunities, they likely would have invented radios and nuclear bombs too.
We are two parts of the same species. Complementary equals.
You can't hurt one without hurting the other. 
this post was over the top; even for you.
I would not be here if not for men. Feel better?
Loose her fast. She's certainly screwing you.
You've had several posts recently about drama such as getting a provider pregnant, and you equate PSE and BBFS. Your recent posts here on GD also sound a bit like BBFS might be something you look for.
So, keeping that in mind...
It's a simple thing with people. When someone keeps going back to be treated poorly they MUSAT be getting something out of it that they like.
Either:
- You love the drama.
- You like here being dependent upon you (control) more than the drama
- You're so addicted to getting the extras you want (I assume BBFS) that nothing else matters.
IMO, you're as addicted to whatever she has as any addict (alcohol or drugs), and she knows it.
Assuming I am right about the BBFS thing, this is the worst possible scenario for BBFS (hmmm, not that there is a good one) because you can bet she does BBFS with anyone without care to get what she wants.
I doubt that you're THAT special, compared to the rest of her ATMs, that only you get the extras.
Once again I find myself making the comparison to the gun-toting newbie... too scary...
the gun-toting newbie topped anything i've ever heard about. YIKERS!!!!!!!
A few times to get yours, fine... but this is supposed to be FUN. For US. We're expected to treat a lady with respect... she should act like a lady.
This girl... is Not a Lady. Is Not treating you with respect. In the end, the mental attitude will eventually trump anything she does for you in bed.
I like the above descriptor or "GFA"... yes sure feels like that apt descriptor. You are rewarding bad behavior. Time to walk away.
skb
that you are neither a doggie, nor a stud...
rather you are a completely pussy whipped husband whose wife screws lots of other guys without a condom just as she does you.
occasionally, while you are sleeping, which is pretty much 24/7, she lifts some bills from your wallet.
at least that's how the possibilities read from here.
She's gonna squeal like a pig when I doggieSTUD her muffin with a big fat hard boner.
and using you as an ATM........
The way she is behaving, in relationship to you, is representative of "addictive behavior." I wouldn't be surprised if it's not so much that she's addicted to you as an ATM, but she's addicted to some illegal substance. Hobbying is dangerous enough in itself, but adding being with someone who may be introducing a drug habit to the mix, makes you an even bigger target to LE and other non-desirables. I stay away from anyone demonstrating the behavior you report.
However, she is using you as an ATM machine.
It perhaps would be different if she truly appreciated what you do for her but she obviously does not. I feel sad for you.
suffering makes the good parts better maybe?
Does it make the guy feel 'needed'?
Maybe he had a mean mommie as a little boy and it trying to placate her in some strange subconscious role play?
I've never understood it.
Ok thanks for the bashing and all your advice.
I decided to go to Backpage and saw another hottie blonde and book this newbie. BOY, She was really a tight sexy body and the tightest pussy ever. I pounded her doggie stud style and she screamed and squealed. I had a wonderful time yesterday. I have to buy lube for this one next time, because she's really tight.
I texted my abusive ATF (the NCNS ATM-addicted freak) and told her I was still tied up at work and would fly out of town for another week. Haha ... Revenge is a dish served cold!