I recently tangled with a provider over her "HWP" (Height & Weight Proportional) requirement for hobbyists. A woman has the right to refuse service to anyone she doesn't like and I can certainly understand her not wanting a 5'6" guy who weighs 400 pounds to book her, but since I am 6'1" and weigh 255, I'm not exactly HWP (200 pounds would be HWP), I find that such a requirement is a bit insulting to us larger guys. Same would be true for ultra-skinny guys, I guess.

It is what it is. I don't see men over a certain age either, because unless I know him from the boards and am already attracted to his younger acting personality, the shit gives me the fkin creeps. It's like sleeping with a grandfather. This is no different than the broken record of no black men, but in a different twist. You're correct, providers can deny service to anyone, even though we are being paid. There are some people/things that I would not touch for any less than 100k.  

It's simply a personal preference. If you didn't want to book with a bbw lady or a spinner,  I'm sure those ladies wouldn't be upset and say it's discrimination.  If a lady doesn't wish to see you for whatever reason,  move on. There are plenty more that will be happy to see you.
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Why are you even babbling about what some hooker won't do?

So what...it's her choice to see who she wants...or at least try to make sure she isn't confronted with someone she absolutely doesn't want to see.

I would never see a $20 blow and go hooker for many reasons but one of them is that I imagine the kind of guys who frequent her.  I think there is something to a guy's perception of exclusivity.

Just like we have the right to choose who we might want to see, they have the right to accept dates from whoever they are comfortable with. I have come across a few providers that don't see women (I am a lady monger)....so what? For every one that doesn't, there are 50 who will. And often I have to email them to ask, since it sometimes isn't mentioned on her website. It is what you make of it. TBH I'm way more pissed off about the few who are too rude to even reply to my email asking. Thankfully those bitches are few and far between.

When someone discriminates against men, women, tall, short, fat, old, ugly, smelly, stupid, smart, white, black, red, brown, yellow....its discrimination.

Good grief man, why do you care?  Why would you want to see someone who doesn't want to see you? Find someone who does. They can be as picky as they want. Their body, their business.

LR is right. Why see someone that may be cringing to be with you.

I always chuckle when I see ISOs that specify that they are looking for any woman that is white, asian, latina, essentially anyone but black. That's cool, but it totally sucks for them...in my area women of color make up 30% of the top 10, myself included. So you've just knocked out a third of the top rated ladies based on an arbitrary idea of what we will look/act/be like. (I've heard since I started that black girls are more likely to be butterfaces...ha!)

Shouldn't you just go "next" and leave it?  

... when providers are clear about who they want to see and don't want to see. It makes it easier for me to focus on providers who will be comfortable with me, and I with them.  

...and book with one of the many that are more than happy to service you! 😎

So she has that preference. So what. Some call it "discrimination". I wont get into that much because it doesn't matter. However, it's false! Lol. That its "discrimination". Your individual merit is not really of concern here. Even if you think it should be. Not for some ladies and it's understandable for most things. Age, race, whatever. As someone said, this is for the most part an open big market. Find another provider. Why would you want to be around someone who has such wishes just because she is on the dime sorta speak? You have your likes. So do some women. Just because they are on the other end. Receiving a donation, honestly means nothing to that as a difference between the two of you. Unless you think she is inferior to you because she is in it for pay and you're paying. If so, hmmmmmm, re-think that please!!! Real Talk.

...this guy would like to meet you.

He'd be considered athletic!

So I guess it's discrimination when you don't book with a lady you're not attracted to?  Some ladies just PREFER not to see someone they won't be attracted to. I guess since the ladies are being paid, it turns into discrimination.  Why is it so hard to understand that it's just a personal preference

Being discriminating is not necessarily a bad thing and it completely blows the myth that "all hookers will ANYBODY" Clearly this is one hooker with standards.  

And I absolutely discriminate on who I would see in P4P.  I won't pay for anything I don't want.

I'm not interested in old or ugly either.

It would make me a hypocrite to call a man "big boned" or some such shit when he is just plain fat.

"Personal choice/preference" and "discrimination" are not mutually exclusive, as you well know Bob.

Why don't you take a few laps around the track and lose a few pounds? Ok, it's more than a few. It's quite a lot if we are all being honest. You are morbidly obese.

A friend of mine told me a 300-pound guy nearly dislocated her hip recently.  Look, because of the unique nature of this work, girls do get to "discriminate" re who they'll see.  Nothing wrong with that IMHO.  And all the shit about the word itself is nothing more than semantics.

In theory, yes but in this illegal business all bets are off. Just saying. Only legal businesses have discrimination laws, so it's null and void here. It's either a legal business that discriminates or a person who does... since the business is already free from any laws, it becomes the personal issue like Terri said... I mean if you really want to get technical about it lol.

who told me that they are turned on by big men pressing down on them.

I think she also qualifies as an Uber

This is the #1 reason why hookers should not want their profession to be legal. Once they are legal and become a business it absolutely would become discrimination. The courts have already set the precedent. Legality, be careful what you wish for.

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As you've posted many times about the old and fat tricks you have to see...but in those cases I am guessing you already know what's behind the door.  So your choice to see the old fat fuck again.

I am irresistible.

In this example it is absolutely discrimination.  

As I posted to h+t elsewhere...most hookers really don't have the option to discriminate.  They can try to weed out the ones they don't want to fuck...but all they can do is limit the possibility that someone will still get through.

I'll bet he's a cuddler too.

in your feelings and need to pick up a dictionary. Some are under the impression that refusing service must be illegal in order to to qualify as discrimination which isn't true in the slightest. Personal preference can be discriminatory. The provider said she didn't want to see him because he is fat that is most definitely discrimination.  

I wasn't rejected. I sent her a picture and she said, "Looking good!", but I didn't like her HWP requirement and found it offensive.

Re: it is what it is. just keep it movin, you'll find your match and magic

Oh, I have and she's gorgeous. But, she's in Miami and I was looking around New England where I spend the summer/fall and came across the ad with the HWP requirement. I'll be seeing my ATF next week when I spend a few days back in Miami.

is preference discrimination

A client probably wants his provider to respond in ways that can't be consciously controlled. If the client is really, really, unsexy as perceived by the provider, she isn't going to get wet, get hard nips, come to orgasm, or any other bodily response. Fair is fair --- the client would not respond to a provider of sufficiently unsexy physical characteristics, either.

Even waste the time to tangle with her, it's not like you're gonna get her to change her weight requirement.

I am 73 years old and have a well trimmed beard and mustache.  I would much rather know that a provider is turned off by old guys and by face hair than waste my time and energy with someone who is wanting m gone the whole time I am there.

They can advertise however the fuck they want to keep certain people away and then they can, and will, say no on some occasions regardless of how many notes a guy may have in his pocket.   Whether she says no or advertises in a way that makes it clear that she does not want to see a particular guy, a guy should not let his knickers twisted into a knot over it.  BTW, I am not sure that sending photos with session requests is a particularly good idea

We know it's discrimination, but mixing words is fun on a fk board. If you want to fk every guy under the sun, be my guest. Until you're my pimp, I will stick to doing what I have done since 2008... NOT what everyone else does.

In civvie world, I have always been at a significant disadvantage due to my height (5'4").  For the most part, it is socially unacceptable for the male in a couple to be shorter than his counterpart, and a majority of civvie women go along with these societal norms/prejudices.  

I respectfully suggest those hookers who feel that discrimination is bad add to their site..will fuck anything that has the cash.  I wonder if those same hookers see dirty guys too or is that the only group they "discriminate " against

If he had not and she met him I am thinking that the session might have been a little frosty.

The #1 reason they don't want it legalized is taxes!  just imagine if they had to pay 40-50% of that fat 1 hour fee to Uncle Sam like us regular working stiffs.
 

Because fat is a choice.

Providers are encouraged to put their preferences in their ads (no black men, age restrictions, HWP, etc) so there aren't any awkward moments when the gent arrives at the door (or visa versa).  But when they do, they get flamed for doing so.  It's her preference, and she doesn't owe you a reason for why she doesn't...but she won't be able to give you the best possible time with her if she's feeling awkward during the session.  

BMI Categories:  
Underweight = less than 18.5
Normal weight = 18.5–24.9  
Overweight = 25–29.9  
Obesity = BMI of 30 or greater

He could be 250lbs and just be a big guy, but not an obese guy.

I'd much rather see a list of DNS on a providers site then to have to play the email 20 question game. It's just a good business practice so that you don't waste our time, and then we in turn don't waste yours.

Which denotes a low body fat but he did not mention that. I bet dollars to donuts his body fat percentage is way above average for a male.  

Tricks quit getting butt hurt if they are on the list, it won't happen.  

So far I have not run into any restrictions personally...but I do not have any of the physical issues that some providers balk at (old, fat, too young, AA, etc). I have been asked a few times to describe myself during the setup phase, but it doesn't happen very often, which is surprising to me.

Mixing words or completely disregarding the definition? I'm an English major so maybe I'm just sensitive, but abuse of the English language just irks me to no end. Lol I didn't say I disagree with the situation and quite frankly I don't care what everyone else is doing. I am neutral on the matter and gave both perspectives.. Again: Yes, people should "fk" whomever they want, but it sucks when you want it to be you but it's not.

and I often see "barely legals" it still hasn't been an issue. but I have had to accept the fact that no 18 year old is still going to want "date me" OTC.  I do occasionally get lucky with the girls in their mid twenties, but it's happening less and less often as I get older. I have NEVER had a woman refuse my money because I am too old yet though, but I am sure it will happen eventually

Seeing as though you have zero reviews, my guess is you are new... stick around. It gets better ha ha.

You're assuming far too much. Many of us do in fact pay a shit ton of taxes, which explains why even hookers can be broke.

I actually prefer "picky" hookers.  I know a picky hooker is less likely to be sick of her job from having to fuck every fat, smelly guy that shows up at her door. I have seen a lot of hookers who actually enjoy sex with their clients, but that's because they weed out the ones they know they won't enjoy.  

I thought about that the first time I set up a date with a k-girl. After making arrangements, I wasn't 100% sure that the booker understood that I was female, despite mentioning it a few times. The day came for my session and I almost backed out, afraid that I'd get to the door and she'd be freaked out not realizing what the booker had set up for her. Thankfully the door cracked open a bit and I was welcomed inside. But it could have easily gone ugly had there been any miscommunication between me and the booker, or between the booker and the girl.

So did you have a good time?

Had a great time. There is something so different and unique about k-girls and their service. I saw her once more and dabbled with a few other gals, but ultimately decided that I preferred to go with independent asian providers.

It made me so happy that I am not fat as she rocked my world.  

Aren't you picky as a hobbyist?  You already mentioned liking the younger ladies.  If you don't want to be a hypocrite shouldn't you be seeing old, not so attractive, and larger women along with the young, beautiful women?