I was recently turned down for a date b/c of the black list.  I always treat the ladies w/ the respect.
But, I do have demanding job, so I have canceled a few times.

Your 58 reviews says you have little trouble procuring escort services. Every once in a while it doesn't work out for whatever reason.

off the Black List and onto the sucker list.  

Not offended.  We each seek something different in this hobby.  I don't see ladies every week.  Usually 3-4 times a year outside of Covid.  
I agree, if I dated  every week or so It would be different
I think it leads to a better date when I show the lady respect.  
Just my $0.02

But also correct.
Now, to the OP. The entire Black List concept is -- like so many things in this world -- misunderstood, misused and fuzzy. Many of us have been blacklisted at one time or another. But it doesn't usually cause much of a problem. Just move on. And while you're at it, move on from paying deposits, especially those that aren't even asked for. You're just making it hard for everyone else.

Just because you don't mind being a doormat doesn't mean that the rest of us want our providers to bend over for us, not the other way around.

I don't think I am a doormat.  I look at this as a business transaction.  I want a positive relationship few a few ladies Heres why:
*Outfit requests: if I make a request they remember it.  
*Touring - Ladies that tour.  A few of my favorite ladies will email me to see if the first week or 2nd week is better when they are looking to tour.  If they can accommodate my schedule they do.  
*The lady is ready on time
*Just a better experience when the lady is comfortable with you and she knows you respect her.  

He has not posted a review for four years.  I get the time gap from 2018 to 2020, yet nothing from 2016 on.

All of that stuff is important to me, too. And I get it NOT by paying a deposit or leaving a gift but by:
1) Showing up on time.
2) Being clean.
3) Treating them well.
4) Giving them repeat business.
5) Writing a good review.
So while it's true "We're all looking for different things," we can easily get it with a method that's different from yours.
But I'm glad you are getting what you want. That's the real point.

Given your low volume of visits with companions each year, it’s obvious that you gave great thought to selecting her.  What’s happened here is the result of a misunderstanding.  It doesn’t cost you anything to reach out one more time and try to clear it up.

You put up this list before I could.  Even just the first three is all the "respect" I usually show the first time I meet them.  Everything else is just a way to spoil them and as GaG says, make yourself a doormat.

another explanation for a Black List.  Many providers will allow social time for a lunch or dinner backed up to a multi-hour session (I have had my share), but in my experience, almost never with a customer they are meeting for the first time.  There is a tipping point for every provider where a guy crosses the line from good customer to time-waster.  Many guys don't understand this.

Why the hell would you offer a deposit. Stupid

Most of the ladies I see now ask me not to post.

Good point.  I should do that.  I hope to see some ladies in 2021 once COVID is behind us.

It sounds like OP thinks he has a bad reputation for cancelling.  He even said he cancelled a lot, without making it right,  early in his hobbying years.

You have a point "from your point of view"  but as a client in my " personal experiences/pic" with a couple ladies I really wanted to see, I sent true gifts they requested  up front or just generally speaking  expecting nothing but standard treatment and ended up either being thought of as a sucker/doormat or taken for granted. Actually been given supar treatment for doing so. Never expecting or asking extra off the clock time, dinner etc  just doing so out of genuine kindness showing appreciation of quality time together.

And it hasn't hurt me at all. And I don't do the deposit or gift card thing. I figure if they want to see me great, if not....no worries, I have friends. I'd say don't worry about it but I can see it's something that concerns you but don't dwell on it.
And the reason I was blacklisted is kinda funny....One girl told me, "That's why she blacklisted you?"

For just posting an honest review. Something at some point you can't always stress over and can't 100% avoid. If you are a kind, polite, book sessions/keep them or if have to cancel last second still make good on it!!... be on time, aren't a creep, stick their posted rules on their site/do your homework, are groomed/clean and have multiple good references being on a "BL" isn't always end all be all.  

You know it, because you were one of the die-hards like the rest of us, but that's why God invented VPN.  Lol

Why offer a deposit? here’s why. ..I like to spend time with higher end ladies.  Ladies that seek out multi hour / dinner type engagements.  So, when I offer a deposit / no games date they usually take me up on it. For a 60/90 min date.  I don’t like the ladies that rush me out the door after 45mins into an hour date. Just my preference.

The numbers of course do speak for themselves.

I have been doing this a VERY long time and in my experience being TOO nice, even when you are being sincere, usually has the opposite effect that you are looking for. I have had a lot of hooker buddies and more than a few hooker girlfriends and the guys that seem to get the most ridicule, the ones the hookers almost always laugh at behind their backs are the guys who try to "buy their love" with over the top gifts, tips, or just plain old "sucking up"

and yes I am an "equal opportunity" asshole, I wouldn't want you to feel singled out. lol

is not too stupid to figure out I really do have him on ignore, so he's slacked off some, but this one is clearly not the brightest bulb on the tree.  I have no idea what he's saying, but since I'm not responding, and no one else is responding to him either, because they know he's a stalker, he should eventually figure out this is just mental masturbation for himself.  He's making himself persona non grata in the TER community.  Couldn't happen to a more deserving guy.  LOL

he's lying, but when 22 of 25 posts on the GD board are directly to him, I think the only one who will think he's lying is you.  You are his official TER stalker.   You can go ahead and own it.  It would be the manly thing to do, because we all know it already.  

With credibility lost as a result of:

Yours is still better....
That guy hounds every post you make!
Man...if he obsesses over providers the way he does your posts....hes probably on a lot of blacklists!
I mean seriously....its almost to the point of " it puts the lotion on the skin"!

You woudn't know the manly thing to do if it bit you in the ass.  The trouble is that your self definition of "manly thing to do" is your continuous masturbation.  

trying to book with any of the ladies that post here regularly?  As soon as he gives his TER handle, he's toast.  LOL

The flip side of guys who try too hard are escorts who continuously heap unearned praise on their clients.  That includes fake orgasms, comments on what a big cock you have, what a wonderful lover you are, handsome, and really interesting to be around.   I kind of ruins the mood for me because it is so patently phony.  On the other hand I am not shopping for insults.  We both know this is a biz,  so politeness is expected.  But the BS can be too much.

Lol thanks GaGa for your input which i do agree to a point.  Another thing to which your point proves another "grey area" and sort of my point exactly IMO ...  

Spot on Lester! Any extreme from a client or provider is too much lol  Common courtesy/politeness and or genuineness should be a given... Simple as that.

Why not simply book on the same day or even with short notice? In my case, I don't like dealing with deposits and I don't know what mood I'd be in or work last-minute thingy, I typically set a 4 or 5hr ahead of the session and knowing she might not be available, which is fine. I can always reach out to an agency who is easily can accommodate if I really need to scratch an itch. Lastly, can't leave home without P411 if you don't have one.

Oh wait a second, that is EXACTLY what I do. lol

Good God, GaG, you're STILL here hijacking posts and making everything about yourself? It shouldn't surprise me really, in fact I've wondered on occasion how you would survive when TER was down for so long and you couldn't come here and talk endlessly about yourself. I only read a few pieces throughout this thread, (your ego and bullshit are just too boring to dignify reading more than that) but the most telling crock was when you said "I think he may hit 10,000 posts on just that one board in just one year. A dubious record for someone who claims to have a life outside of here"                      

So you consider a 60/90 minute date an attractive proposition for higher end ladies that seek out "multi hour / dinner type engagements."  it sounds like you are using the deposit angle to try to get a date with someone that you know is clearly out of your league, right?  It actually makes a little sense, but still reeks of desperation, IMO.

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You are always confused. You have ZERO knowledge on this subject.

Jesus Christ Lester, I did not know you had it in you to make a post that spot on!

Desperate? Aren’t we all going for ladies out of our league.  You got it!!!  I want a date with a super hot woman that is going to rock my world.  You’re not???
So many ladies complain (rightly so) about time wasters.  Here I come to slip in a date.  
Here are my avail times... references etc... deposit and maybe a gift.  Let’s get together.  It works.  
Higher end ladies rarely play games. They don’t rush you, don’t stack appts right after another, there is more attention to detail.  It’s a different experience than an Asian massage parlor. This is what I desire.

Joe, the higher end ladies are not avail day of.  
I’m now up front with my schedule and if an issue comes up we’re on the same page If I have to move the date. I take full responsibility for it now.

That's gonna raise a bruise.

CDL compares fine dining to Korean takeout.
And because he is such a legend in his own mind, leading the board in reviews (mostly fake reviews to justify his "position" the putz talks down super hot women who command 8+-9+ and 3 ore more times the pathetic cheap budgets that they live under.
In its own right that would be fine.  There are many people who are nice and respectful while they eat fast food.   CDL and his deranged band eat fast food like slobs, spitting the debris everywhere.

If its a different experience.  I haven't been to an Asian Massage Parlor.  The Asian girls I see work out of upscale apartment complexes.  

Of course you don't think you are a doormat, but that doesn't mean you aren't. lol

You may or may not be a great client.  Who knows.  But there is likely more to this situation.  You are aware that you were blacklisted and you seem to THINK that you know what you were blacklisted for ... cancelling too many times on short notice or whatever.  The reality is that regardless of whether or not that is all that you have ever done bad ... merely cancel a few times ... the ladies that you just cancelled on were likely pissed and wrote something like ...

He's most likely blacklisted as a timewaster for cancelling and/or not paying her cancellation fee.  

Sorry, but you don't ring a bell. I guess I made a much bigger impression on you than you did on me. If you REALLY wanted to get my attention there are easier ways.

Ok, maybe not that harsh, but there is definitely more to the situation.  If he is blacklisted just for what you said, then 99.9% of the time the lady or booking assistant would just mitigate the risk by requesting a deposit.  By the nature of his post I would conclude that he would have just paid the deposit and there would not have been any issue.  That didn't happen.  So there is very likely something else out there and/or the level of risk (blacklist(s)) is framed differently.  

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CDL-By eating fast food, reservations are nor needed and you can simply drive by.

There is more than one "blacklist" out there. Additionally, there are a plethora of websites for looking up email addresses and phone numbers. If this is the first time this issue has come up, you might want to Google your own information.  
Keep in mind that some negatives, like being listed as a time waster or last minute cancellations, might be overlooked when business is slow. Not so much when a lady has plenty of reliable gentlemen to keep her busy.

After giving it 2 days off thought, that's really the best you could come up with? It stung, didn't it, looking back through my post history where I made a complete moron out of you. Stung way back then too, of course. Enough, in fact, that I'm sure you remembered me as soon as you started your research, if not as soon and you saw my handle.

some so-called black lists are really the provider's Do Not See list, for guys who've been annoying or violated some of her personal rules.

Most of those sites are closed sites so you can't just Google your information.

Depends on what’s out there to find.

I never said I didn’t pay her cancelation fee nor did I say I haggle for short dates.  

Most of us just contact a girl, go through her screening and set a date, rarely running into any issues along the way, but others here, YOU, seem to run into endless problems and end up jumping through endless hoops just for the privilege of paying a woman hundreds of dollars an hour to see you.  

Aside from Psycho chick....I dont have problems booking. Here lately its just been an issue of finding anyone worthwhile to book with...

They just need to invest in P411. Just go ahead and get the lifetime membership. Price of a date, and definitely less than two. Will save a shit ton of headaches. For the newbies, once you get a few dates under you belt from providers who are P411 newbie friendly, you have contacts for references. I've found most providers I've met won't even ask for references if you have P411. Even if they do, they'll approve you for a date without even checking them with P411. Yeah, there are a few choice touring providers and Indies that require a lot of information; LinkedIN, office phone number, picture, etc. They can go pound sand and you don't see them in business for long.

I have booked HUNDREDS of sessions using P 411 over about 10 years or so and in all that time and all those sessions I think I am now up to a grand total of THREE times I have been asked for more information and two of those cases were from agencies.

Apparently a disgruntled provider posted a review about me on the Black List.  She said I was rude.

So are these your set of facts ...
1) You have cancelled on several ladies in the past.
2) When you cancelled on those ladies you always respected their cancellation policies and made them whole and/or paid their cancellation fees to remain in good standing.
3) Despite 1 & 2 above you are nevertheless blacklisted for cancelling.
4) A lady recently refused to see you because you are blacklisted for cancelling.