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Trust
MasterZen 34 Reviews 2326 reads
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Clients, do you trust your favorite providers? Providers, do you trust your favorite clients?

 
How far does your trust go? Is it merely trust in discretion, or do you trust with greater intimacy?

 
What barriers to greater trust do you feel?

 
After years on this and other boards and related social media, I have noticed many instances where problems, misunderstandings and even worse have occurred due to lack of mutual trust. A Twitter thread today denigrated all men as untrustworthy; responses, obviously, were the opposite accusation.  

 
So are we all worthy of trust, or no?

 
Personally, I choose to confer trust and value relationship rather than to distrust and view things as a zero-sum game.  

 
What say you?

CurlyW-NatsFan 110 reads
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What does it really mean?  People put their "trust" in a stranger, say "I do" and then 60% of the say head on over to Splitsville.  

 
Do I trust a provider that if she offers me a brownie, it won't be laced with rat poison? Yeah, I think I do.  9 out of 10 times I do..  

 
Do I trust them to get back to me in a timely manner, and not bail on appointments that are booked weeks in advance.... 9 out of 10 times I don't..  

 
Oh boy !! This weed is good.. I eat really feelin' it.

Steve_Trevor 100 reads
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“Trust, but verify”?  That may seem like a good answer to your question. But maybe it’s not.  I found the linked article on this subject interesting. One of the most applicable points to this topic is this, I think:

 
“(Leaders) operate with eyes wide open, assessing the risks of trusting or not trusting, and evaluating whether outcome or relationship is more important in a given situation.”

 
I follow the “eyes wide open” approach.  There’s a small number of providers I trust absolutely, but I’ve known them for years.  I can close my eyes with them with no worries.

-- Modified on 7/31/2022 10:08:25 PM

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 93 reads
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Trust is along a continuum, but actions are binary. Either we engage with the escort or we pass. There is some threshold of trust in any interaction. There is risk in every association.

sexystephie See my TER Reviews 120 reads
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Providers and clients are people and as such  there will be ones you trust and ones you dont. And w time, usually, trust builds. But just like any group of people , there will be good and bad. If anything, sharing intimacy should build trust.

sexystephie See my TER Reviews 109 reads
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Providers and clients are people and as such  there will be ones you trust and ones you dont. And w time, usually, trust builds. But just like any group of people , there will be good and bad. If anything, sharing intimacy should build trust.

sexystephie See my TER Reviews 130 reads
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But trust doesnt mean bbfs. Because i can trust you or you can trust me but if we are going bare you have to trust everyone i am with and i would have to trust everyone you are with. Not wearing a condom creates a higher level of intimacy than casual relationships are. That is why you go bare not w casual encounters or paid encounters but when you have a one on one relationship.

QueenBia See my TER Reviews 109 reads
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I trust my ATF friends.

636sd 107 reads
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I trust my ATF. She is a great woman and we have a good relationship with solid boundaries. We've shared more intimate secrets with each other, that could cause problems if repeated, than I have with anyone else.

I've made some long term commitments to her (not romantic) that required a lot of trust, things I've never even considered in "real" relationships.  

Outside of the hobby, I think we're both invested in each other's future, again not for romantic reason but because we have mutual admiration, respect, and trust.

Kitty76 See my TER Reviews 108 reads
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TRUST  
*    Mean exactly what you say. If you say that you'll be at the Provider's location at a certain time then be there at that  
      time.

MasterZen 34 Reviews 90 reads
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I really wasn't heading down the path of specific sexual acts. I can appreciate your sentiments and tend to agree with you, though.

36363jensen 4 Reviews 85 reads
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T - the
R - right to
U - use
S - sex
T - toys

 
Personally I don't have much interests in toy play but I certainly support the right of others to partake.

 
More on topic -- yes I do trust a number of providers I've met but it is more about trusting them to do things I expect (not in terms of the session but in terms of other potential events)  but that might be a bit different than how you are using the term.

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 120 reads
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Most of lies/deception comes from lying/deception being favorable to the respective party. If you care about short term profits, lying/deception is excellent if dishonest/immoral tool. So for example, I'll always trust mongers over providers simply because the former don't have much incentive to lie besides maybe instances of big ego and revenge.

 
If a provider has five year old pics why would I ever *trust* her? Everyone has a camera and a smartphone nowadays, we all know why girls keep old pics. And if you're willing to deceive about your age and looks how can I *ever* trust anything you say? You chose money over truth. Eat your money. You made your choice.

-- Modified on 8/1/2022 5:50:09 PM

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 87 reads
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in a provider's future can get really expensive really fast.  Lol

636sd 84 reads
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I didn't mean financially. Although I did once in the past gave a provider a little start up capital when she wanted to start a salon. It worked out and I recouped 80% of my money thus far. It'll be a nice little passive income stream for me.

If the lady is smart enough, can present me with a legit business plan, and I like her enough to want to help then I will. And believe me when I say I will not be less critical of her plans just because she's sat on my face.

However, she will need to accept that I will never see her as a client again.

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 89 reads
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Don't like 9 out of 10 business startups fail?  I would assume any financial outlay like that is an act of charity rather than an investment, just based on the likely success rate.

636sd 100 reads
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That's because 9 out of 10 are started by idiots. Knock on wood but I've only had three failures out of 22. I was an idiot too once, and made mistakes but I worked my way through them. Now I can spot risk a mile away. The risk I took on with her (because she did a good job)  was no different than with anyone else who I start companies with. She was preparing to get a small business loan so she actually had a formal business plan, already negotiated a lease etc ect. She was better prepared than some "real" business people. I've also had other girls ask me to invest and just laughed because I knew they never truly want to get away from the "easy" money lifestyle.  

I don't do charity unless it's actually for a charity. And every time I get a proposal from a girl I always throw out the disclaimer "you don't fuck for free, I don't invest for free, I will make money or I won't do it"

-- Modified on 8/2/2022 7:24:55 AM

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 91 reads
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to look at it.  I'm the same with friends who ask for a loan.  In my mind, I consider it a gift.  If they pay me back, good for them keeping their word, if not, I'll write it off as helping a friend.  I helped several providers with rent during the first few months of Covid in 2020, when a lot of customers thought they would die if they saw a provider.  All but two have paid me back (no interest, but a few gave me freebies for helping them out), but I really didn't expect to see ANY of that money again at the time I decided to help them.  

 
BTW, I never stopped seeing providers during Covid, and only wore a mast if required to get into a business.  I didn't catch Covid until the BA-2 in January of this year. I think the panic of 2020 was overkill.

636sd 91 reads
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I've definitely given some quick bridge loans to regular providers. None have failed to repay. My ATF is an authorized user on my amex, she only uses it for large purchases that her cards can't cover. She always asks permission first even though I've told her she doesn't need to. And she always has the cash ready to pay me same week.

Tbh I feel like providers are far more diligent in paying back than regular friends simply because their mindset is very transactional. Regular buddies assume because we're friends I don't mind waiting.

-- Modified on 8/2/2022 10:31:30 AM

636sd 161 reads
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Lol, I'll trust a provider who I know over a monger any day of the week. Pretty much every provider I know (and I'm sure on this board they'd agree) would prefer 20 long term regular clients over new guys all day long. Providers are more incentivized to build a relationship with you than some dude from an online forum.  

Sure mongers may not have an incentive to lie/deceit you but they REALLY don't have ANY incentive to be good to you. I'd be a lot more suspicious of a monger trying to be my friend than a provider....at least I know the provider's incentive. And before you say "community" blah blah blah, just look at the reviews on this site. Half of them are crap, like every dude fucks like a pornstar with a footlong dick. Then you have the guys who will just copy your reviews and post them just so they can get a few free days VIP so they can probably jerk off to other guys reviews. Where's the honor in that?  

I'm sure you're a nice guy who truly believes in the community. But I'm warning you that most of these guys who you care about don't give a fuck about you.

I'd rather know someone's bad intentions than not understand someone's intentions at all.

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 115 reads
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I more or less agree with your last three sentences.  

However, I do no consider others caring about me a  
prereq for me to care about them.

 
But, this topic is about trust. Yes, some mongers will lie to me and/or other mongers... and if I get a whiff of it they may even stop being my fellow mongers... and I obviously will stop trusting them.

It's not about "being good to me". A provider may be lying through her teeth and still be good to me.
But again I cannot ever trust a provider if she doesn't have recent pics. Knowingly (and on purpose) misrepresenting the product being sold is pretty damn disgusting.

-- Modified on 8/3/2022 12:46:20 AM

Kikiloverkink See my TER Reviews 109 reads
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Do I trust every client I meet right off the get-go? most likely not.. but do I build trust with clients I’ve met many times and have gotten to actually know- yes.

worried 85 reads
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NO!  That's why I pay her.  

636sd 119 reads
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I whole heartedly agree with the fake pics comment. I'd never trust a provider like that from the start. I'm just saying it's easier to trust a provider I've met than anyone from an online community.  

I've personally never been burnt by a provider who I ended up trusting. But I'm also not someone who trusts easily, and I'm pretty good at knowing when people are hustling me....and sometimes I don't mind. I've also never been burnt by a monger but I don't really interact with any....nor do I have any desire too.

36363jensen 4 Reviews 90 reads
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LOL

 
I'm just the opposite. I would never give money or pay money to someone I don't trust.

636sd 107 reads
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Even though I miss my 20s where I'd bang every chick without a condom, and somehow I managed to avoid everything. But these days idgaf if it's a provider or a chick from a nightclub. Everything gets wrapped. Even a civvie, if I think she's a super slut, I'll put a rubber on for BJ and they look at me weird lol.

But if a provider offers me bare I'll decline and never return. IRL I'd have to be exclusive for 90 days and then both get tested before considering it.

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 88 reads
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So you trusted the hundreds of Asian and non-Asian girls you've seen?

 

All of them? Well shit, you trust a ton of people. Be careful. No joke.

KalyEscort 96 reads
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I wrote as a rule number 6 on my Etiquette section:

6) Don’t Get Too Personal:

While you should have plenty of things to talk about in our date, you should make sure you don’t ask any questions that are too personal. I might not want to share details about my personal life with you.

 
On this biz is better don't ask to much, because the other person can be on the situation to say lies. Better relax, live and let live.

georgebensen 101 Reviews 88 reads
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no trust in this game

anony3274931 105 reads
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I trust I won’t wake up in a bath tub missing a kidney. It’s business

ChicagoNicoleta See my TER Reviews 90 reads
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over time and experiences. If you don't trust someone physically weaker than you, naked, on their knees for you, what does it say about you?

GiaGenet See my TER Reviews 101 reads
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“Trust” feels like an insufficient framework for this lifestyle. I trust people to do or not do all kinds of things, though sometimes it feels a bit more like faith than trust. It’s why I screen the way I do and am careful about maintaining professional boundaries and being clear about expectations even as relationships deepen and evolve.

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 87 reads
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Naked on their knees for me, says about me, that that scenario really turns me on. :-)

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