The last provider I saw was from D.C. and offered me FSBB.  This was the first time in my 3 years of hobbying that I was offered FSBB.  She said it was part of the PSE.  I was amazed at this offer but declined, peace of mind was more important.  Even though I did do the stripper slide, which was pushing the limits for me.  It appears that PSE has relative meanings.  Has anybody gone through with an offer of BBFS?

Yes, to some pse means bbfs,but not to any careful guy.

but terms like GFE and PSE mean many different things to many different people.

and to answer your question, Yes I have, but I have been in several LTR's with women in this business and I was not having BBFS with a "hooker" but rather with my GF who just happened to be a hooker. There's a big difference I am sure you will agree.

As a "high volume" guy myself I can't imagine going BBFS with a woman/women who advertised the service. The odds of a guy who sees over a hundred different women almost every year for the past couple of decades having BBFS with hookers who have BBFS with almost every client they see would make coming down with a life threatening STD almost a certainty.

I hate condoms, but I would hate catching something that would make my dick rot off even more. lol

it is usually denotes a willingness to do anal, but even then it is not always the case.

It used to mean a "wham, bam, thank you maam" session devoid of any similarity to having a girl friend, but I don't think that is even the case anymore

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Girls must truly be getting desperate for business to risk their health in this way and it makes me very sad. As you say even the so called 'stripper slide' is unsafe sex and can result in disease transmission, especially if you're doing it with a lady who is offering BBFS to other clients.  
Keep safe people - this should be fun not a potential life sentence or something to explain to your wife!

And I haven't had anyone offer - though now that I think back - there MAY have been some heavy hinting involved with some providers that I had seen more than a few times...  I'm basically oblivious to hints - as my wife would tell you.

As I understand it, it happens a lot more than I would have thought.  You would honestly think that adults would know better.

But no - to me PSE does not mean BBFS - it means wall to wall wild sex but with condoms....

As you like to say, in your own words “ Yes I have, but I have been in several LTR's with women in this business and I was not having BBFS with a "hooker" but rather with my GF who just happened to be a hooker. There's a big difference I am sure you will agree.”

I very much disagree. There is no difference. You were having bbfs with a hooker who was your GF but she was still a hooker, therefore you were having bbfs with a hooker who was not charging you, aka your GF but still a hooker. I’m sure you must agree.

How do you know she was not giving bbfs to other guys while she was your “GF”. Since she was giving it to you chances are she was giving it to others also. True I do not know one way or the other but more importantly neither do you, I’m sure you must agree.

Again, I do not know one way or the other (and do not want to know) but I assume your dick has not yet rotted off, but (since in your own words above you did, with a hooker GF or not still a hooker) you do not really know for sure that there is not some little nasty something running around inside you. I hope not

PSE meant BBFS was in LA and SF/SJ.  Rest of the county it just means BBBJ, CIM and sometimes greek on the menu, in my experience.

and even though I will stick to my words that PSE does NOT mean BBFS to "most" of us, I will concede that in CA at least, that is exactly what it means.

Clairecavendish SO many So Cal gents feel this doesn't apply to them Quite disheartening... however I've noticed the higher my rates the fewer of these asinine requests come my way. Fitting all around!  

Looking forward to your trip this way, and hoping our paths cross soon, lovely! XOXO

and unlike many here, I am not looking for acceptance of my behavior, much less permission. I am a grown ass man, capable of making my own risk assessment.  

For the record, one of the "hookers" I was dating worked at one of the legal brothels in Northern Nevada where they get tested more often than lab rats. I will confess, I felt safer with her than even with my wife when I was married.

Most of these relationships of course were years ago, so as for something nasty running around inside of me, the incubation period even for AIDS has past quite some time ago and I have been tested many times since. NO ONE is 100% sure they are carrying around something inside of them unless they have been celibate for six months or so and then went out and got tested, but my last tests were about 2 months ago and "so far so good

Each person, guy and gal, has their own definition, regardless of the TER dictionary. Obviously, she has hers. So what’s the definition? To be truly PSE, does the lady have to swallow, cim, up the wazoo, and fsbb? Is she PSE if she only does one or two? What if I only like one, and write a review stating that she’s PSE based on that?  

One of my ATFs, in the moment, was really turned on, and wanted it right now, rather than take the time to put on protection. We were messing around, and she hooked me with her legs, trying to force my bare cock into her nether regions. I love ladies who are genuine in their pleasure, but I’m not here for bareback, so I easily thwarted her efforts. Funny, but that lady cringed if I wanted to cim. So was she PSE, willing to do one, but not the other? Then there was another lady who advertised PSE cim. But when you were cumming, she would angle her mouth at the tip so it would all quickly flow out. Not really cim. But by her definition, she felt like it was. Thousands of ladies and gentlemen, thousands of definitions.  

A more important question. What the hell is GFE

Can we settle on there being *some* difference? Not enough for me to accept, but not the same as a lady putting it on her menu.

and Over The Counter. 😬

idiots exist all over the place.

I guess that means that all that is gonna take place (or has taken place if she provides bbfs) should be on the table to make an informed decision. If she provides bbfs then maybe you want to use the avoidance method. Or maybe you are fine with just making sure everything is covered. Or you wanna tap that! (ugh)

One day my best friend's boyfriend comes home from work all in a tither. He is so hyped up you gotta wonder 'them's some good drugs my boy'. He announces, out of the blue, that if anyone ever gave him HIV that he would fuk everything in sight to pass it around and get even. And make everyone suffer they way that he will be. And he meant it...if you seen his face...

I find it hard to believe that a girl who wants to force that on you (you know, when you have an ATF *rolling eyes*) doesn't have ulterior motives. Of course there are some totally ignorant people out there, I guess they missed the talk about STI's in health class, must have been away that day, but even those ones are smart enough to know that if someone gave them something, then they can give something to everyone.

I guess some people just got a death wish. Or think their invincible. (again, them's some good drugs) Either way I have to wonder..is this only a problem in this industry? Well of course it is...otherwise she would be called your 'girlfriend'.

If any guy partakes in this, no matter what heading it falls under... well i just don't understand...honestly, i don't want to either.

Your 'pussy slide' is the same thing as bbfs. If you have herpes or hpv waiting to happen then when she slides her pussy over you cock she picks it up. Then she passes it on the next dick she slides herself over.

If she has chlamydia she be sliding that all over your shaft, and you think she just wet with pussy juice... then you take your hand before/during/or after and brush that pussy juice over the head of your wang, and voila, instant transmission. Most of you guys wait til you get home to wash of the penis. Just long enough for some festering and for an outside bug to become an inside bug, and your off to the doctor's. Worse are the guys who wanna do two or more in one day...oh yeah a baby wipe should take care of it, now this girl should give me my pussy slide because I'm gonna tip her big!

I have been with ladies who openly offered bbfs (usually after a long DATY session). At times I have partaken but usually I prefer to go home without the nerve-wracking worries.  In either case I always wash my hands, face and penis with a strong anti-bacterial immediately after sex(I bring my own alcohol). Even in middle of a session.  
I have heard some say that I am "closing the barn door after the horse has escaped ".
I have researched this and cleaning up is effective in reducing the transmission of many diseases.  The longer some bug is sitting on your skin the better the opportunity to find a way in.  
I have been hobbying for over 20 years and am regularly tested and have never tested positive for anything.
I would recommend cleaning as important as using condoms.  HPV, or Chlamydia can be on you hands or lips after playing with an infected partner and you need to clean up to avoid passing it to your mouth, eyes or penis.

Have fun and stay healthy

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Is not about BBFS.  In my experience it is about animalistic fucking in weird positions with little to no small talk or kissing or anything resembling a "girlfriend experience".  It is pounding ass, going bbbjcimnqns and DATY till she squirts in your face (yeah, I know, its got pee in it).  Its about doing weird stuff that you would never do "normally" unless you were truly into it.  A lot of guys try BDSM only with providers, to them that is PSE.  The definition can change depending in the client and what kind of porn they watch.  Personally, while looking at some porn it may tuen me on, the actuality of it turns me off.  Generally, to me a PSE is one where my fantasies are fulfilled with a sex filled session without a lot of personal interaction.  Heck, I had one session once where using FC's I went pussy to ass and back again several times in a short interval just to see which felt better.  To me that was PSE!  But it wasn't BB.  Bareback is stupid with anyone other than your wife.or committed relationship IRL.  If you hobby BBFS then IMHO you are putting yourself at risk as well as the provider.

I've never come across where PSE equals BBFS, even in California.  I think the Cali experience is more along the lines of seeing a 'Porn Star', where BBFS is conditioned on mutual testing through one of the industry accepted draw centers.

I'm a lucky as fuck old monger (57). I was a merchant marine in the 80's and never wore a condom. Philippines, Korea, Taiwan, so many ladies, never caught anything. This was before HIV really spread across the globe.  

Today, there is no way in hell I would have BBFS with a provider. While I am clean, was her last client? Or the 10 before that?  

Since my divorce, quite a long time ago, I have only been with providers. The first few years by choice because I just wanted no part of a relationship. Now, meeting the right woman, 40-46ish, and hitting it off romantically is the hard part. I've been "out of the dating game" for too long. So I guess it could always be covered from here on out. Who knows. But I'll sleep better at night not worrying. And probably live longer.