I remember a rather frequent poster here admitted quite a while ago that he had NEVER been with a black woman.
Here is my question for the class, are any of you in a similar situation having NEVER been with anyone of a certain race, and if so, WHY? is it a matter of choice, or circumstance?
I'll go first, I have both dated (non P4P) and have mongered with women of all the "major food groups" White, Black, Latina, Asian, and most of subsectors that I can think of, I LOVE variety and contrary to believing "all women, regardless of race, are the same" I think there are most definitely differences between the races, but I embrace the differences, I would hate it if we were all alike.
What say the rest of you?
I havent checked is Indian....dot, not feather.
Not a choice...just curious umstance....
Ive seen ladies that advertise as being of middle Eastern heritage, but honestly look like light skinned AA.
And while they may actually be of Middle Eastern decent...the ones ive come across just haven't appealed to me
Just waiting for that Bollywood refugee, I guess! Lol
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races I haven’t dated in any fashion. Not from unwillingness, more from lack of opportunity. There is a provider of Indian/mixed ancestry I’ve been trying to meet for awhile, but can’t get schedules in sync. Others are... well, out of reach, such as the lovely woman in the photo. 🙂
Body paint and wigs, darlin'; anything's possible. I'm currently planning my best friend's pon farr (ie-his "I'm done paying off the ex-wife" celebratory orgy). Guess what his burlesque girlfriend is going as? 
The Pon Farr. If I only got a nutt once every 7 years and my blood was boiling and I'd die if I didn't. I think I would wear it out.🤓😼
Ah, Susan Oliver...she made quite an impression on a 12-year old TRex
I think the differences are more national/cultural vs race perse. I lived in Asia Pacific - various cities - for many years and there are clear differences between Japanese, Thai, Pinay, etc. In all the years of global travel (now in the past unfortunately) I had the privilege of meeting many from different cultures. Each had pluses and minuses but, for me, Thai girls are the best. I even had 2 Thai ATFs, in Tokyo of all places, who I fondly remember to this day (nothing better than spending a few hours in a nice "love hotel" spa tub!!).
TER Profiles need to reflect that difference, too. TER has wrongly used "Ethnicity" as an indicator of Complexion, National Origin, Cultural attributes, etc. I say, separate them out, starting with Complexion, the easiest.
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There are Brazilians who are pale as a Coconut and as dark as Espresso. Likewise, women from the Caribbean can span the whole range. Even "black" AAs in the US span a wide range of complexion colors. With globalization, there are people who were born and raised in countries that were, pre-emigration or pre-colonization, just one "color". South Africa was black (NOT "African-American") until colonization. Many dark skinned Africans migrated to Scandinavia or Greece and children born there are "Swedish" or "Greek" but do not "look" like Abba or Melina Mercouri! Even in "homogenous" India, there are Coconuts and Espressos and everything in between.
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Change the Review / Profiles to have a field for "Complexion", "Country of Origin", " Major Cultural Influence" (as it recently came up: Korean-Americans are culturally American; Korean-Koreans are culturally Korean), etc. Get rid of "Ethnicity" entirely.
Posted By: jack8888
Re: Nationality vs race
I think the differences are more national/cultural vs race perse. I lived in Asia Pacific - various cities - for many years and there are clear differences between Japanese, Thai, Pinay, etc. In all the years of global travel (now in the past unfortunately) I had the privilege of meeting many from different cultures. Each had pluses and minuses but, for me, Thai girls are the best. I even had 2 Thai ATFs, in Tokyo of all places, who I fondly remember to this day (nothing better than spending a few hours in a nice "love hotel" spa tub!!).
One advantage of the brothels, such as the old JoNY (Jewel's / Jerry's) in NYC, is that one could enter and see the line up or, to keep with the food analogy, smorgasbord of rainbow, multi-cultural, hostesses available for meetings.
Next easiest to the Complexion chart is the standard body type chart used in psych studies, the garment industry, etc.. Instead of "curvy" or "a few pounds over" just pick the number, 1-10, of the body type what matches who you saw in the room.
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Oh yeah ... some might say, "Just check her photos for Complexion and Body type" but the idea of the DATABASE is to make it easy to search on certain characteristics to help us set up meetings. Some don't care about Complexion so leave it blank or choose "Any". Likewise body type.
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And some might say, "Your chart system doesn't include a green Complexion or a Martian cultural background. Once again, in addition to the charts with options 1-10, add "Other" for Klingons and those with polka dot skin.
Posted By: impposter
Re: Nationality vs race
TER Profiles need to reflect that difference, too. TER has wrongly used "Ethnicity" as an indicator of Complexion, National Origin, Cultural attributes, etc. I say, separate them out, starting with Complexion, the easiest.
This chart is from a psych paper. There are others with choices 1-10.
I have seen Asian, Black, Hispanic, Indians (both software and casino), middle Eastern (shaved, of course, which is not always the case with M.E. women), Mediterranean, Jewish (since they consider themselves a race rather than a religion), and of course, White. I think that only leaves Eskimo, unless you want to count them as either Native Americans, or Asians. As much as I like DATY, I had not thought of them as "food groups", but it seems appropriate now that you mention it.
We Jews are not a race. We are a religion.
Can you name one other race that you can convert to?
Didn't think so.
many references throughout history to Jewish people referring to THEMSELVES as "the Jewish race." I would be on board with them NEVER doing that, but it's in the history and theological books.
I copied this from an article about this topic . . . .
"Before the 1940s and the Holocaust, Jews were generally seen as a distinct race both by themselves and others, because Jewishness is inherited from your mother by Jewish law, but after the Holocaust, this idea became unacceptable in public."
So it appears my understanding was correct before 1940, but UNACCEPTABLE in public NOW., even though I personally have Jewish friends that still think this way. They consider "converted" Jews not entirely the real deal. If a Jewish woman marries a non-Jew, her children are still Jewish by birth. If a Jewish man marries a non-Jew, then he is ending the family line as Jews, according to Jewish law. So a Jewish man has the dubious task of having to decide if he wants to keep the family line Jewish by relegating himself to a lifetime of begging for sex. At least, that's the way they explained it to me. LOL
Anyway, I will happily stand corrected on this one because I believe exactly as you do.
"A 2006 study found Ashkenazi Jews to be a clear, homogeneous genetic subgroup. Strikingly, regardless of the place of origin, Ashkenazi Jews can be grouped in the same genetic cohort – that is, regardless of whether an Ashkenazi Jew's ancestors came from Poland, Russia, Hungary, Lithuania, or any other place with a historical Jewish population, they belong to the same ethnic group. The research demonstrates the endogamy of the Jewish population in Europe and lends further credence to the idea of Ashkenazi Jews as an ethnic group. Moreover, though intermarriage among Jews of Ashkenazi descent has become increasingly common, many Haredi Jews, particularly members of Hasidic or Hareidi sects, continue to marry exclusively fellow Ashkenazi Jews. This trend keeps Ashkenazi genes prevalent and also helps researchers further study the genes of Ashkenazi Jews with relative ease. These Haredi Jews often have extremely large families."
And you then ignore Sephardic Jews, Ethiopian Jews and Asian Jews.
Jews themselves don't consider themselves to be a race. The courts do, but only for the purpose of finding existing laws protecting minorities apply to them.
All of the Ashkenazi Jews alive today can trace their roots to a group of about 330 people who lived 600 to 800 years ago.
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Today there are more than 10 million Ashkenazi Jews around the world, including 2.8 million in Israel.
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Ashkenazi Jews make up about 75% of Jews worldwide.
I, like many sons of Abraham, have strayed from the orthodoxy of the religion but considered myself culturally and ethnically Jewish nonetheless. Mr. Fisher is correct that one cannot convert one's race (though the news is full of imposter stories, poseurs and hucksters).
I am had the honer of copulating with an African American lady several times, two different Hispanic ladies, an one Asian.
Not for lack of desire have I broadened beyond, and I sure would like to spend time more on the Hispanic and Asian side, just never the opportunity.
My bad, add Jewish to the list.
I have yet to spend BCD time with an Indian or Pakistani woman. I have met many in my professional and personal life, but have not been able to connect with a provider or SB yet. Nor have I had the pleasure of spending time with Middle-Eastern women, other than a Persian-Iranian SB a few years ago (who was off the hook when BCD).
I can check the box for all kinds of East Asians; Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Philippian, Thai, Cambodian, Vietnamese, Singaporean/Malaysian, and a few more. Plus many flavors of Latina from North and South America, Western and Eastern Europe, African American, South African, Caribbean, Caucasian, and even Persian (as noted above).
But, GaGa, I'll push back back a bit on your premise that race = a difference in women. Yes, there is a general correlation that comes with race, but I'm not convinced that race is the direct cause of these differences. In my experience those differences are driven first by cultural influences, rather than race.
I guess it's the old question of "nature vs nurture." For example, if you think about an Asian women who was born and raised in an Asian country, versus an Asian woman who was born and raised in a US state, you will likely find the US born experience much more akin to the experience with Caucasian (or any race of) women born and raised in the same state and city. Not identical, but similar. The US-born Asian will still likely have some cultural influences from parents and family, but at a lower level then the non-US-Born Asian woman. Instead the US-born will have strong influence from her local community.
Having said all that, I'll note that trying to generalize or even worse, stereotype any group of people is a fools errand and if taken out of context, will likely get your ass in serious Political Correctness Trouble (though I know you give zero fucks about being "PC" 
. But your post suggested "differences" at a rather general level, so there it is... because...
Life is good
The Cat
and while all races come in all sorts of shapes and sizes, stereotypes are most often rooted in truth. "African" hair for example is quite a real thing. So is the fact that Asian women tend to age better than women of other races. There are a lot of stereotypes that are hardly negatives, even though some people try to frame them that way.
I completely agree about culture. Using myself as an example, I have slanted eyes, but anywhere I go in the world I am quite obviously an American, no one ever presumes I am actually FROM Asia.
And you are 100% right about one thing, I do give "zero fucks" about political correctness. This thread was hardly designed to be PC. Differences between the races are a real thing, but those differences are to be embraced, not condemned or ridiculed, or even worse simply glossed over in hopeless attempt to homogenize the world.
It's one of the beauties of P4P, You can have a blonde from Texas one day, a beautiful brunette from Italy the next, an Island girl from Jamaica the next and so on and so on and so on. In most major cities in the US you can pick a woman from whatever country you are in the mood for almost as easily as you can pick an Italian, Middle Eastern or Chinese restaurant for dinner.
Other than skin color, it is hard to say there is a difference in the body styles of the various races. Lots of variation in them. Personalities are all over the place. They're women so most are at least a bit crazy.
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Some categories like Asian are pretty broad, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, Filipino, Malaysian, etc. (There is a youtube video out where several Asians claimed they could tell origins by sight ... but given a series of pictures they failed miserably.)
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I've seen Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Black, Hispanic, India Indian, Native American Indian, White.
Can't think of one race I haven't been with....But I've never been with a martian. 
If you meant to say you have never been with a "Martin", then leave out the "A". And in that case, good for you. Neither have I. Lol
Maybe it's a typo for Marten?
Posted By: coeur-de-lion
Re: Is that a typo? . . . .
If you meant to say you have never been with a "Martin", then leave out the "A". And in that case, good for you. Neither have I. Lol
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I've been with many nationalities and ethnicities in the hobby but very few outside--mostly Caucasian and black . In the cities where I've lived and worked, it was unheard of back in the day for an Asian or Latin American woman to date a black man, not that I didn't try.
As for the hobby, I've not been with anyone from the Indian subcontinent. There seem to be few providers with that background. There was one beautiful looking gal about 15 years ago that I tried to get next to but could never connect with on her tours. I think she was from Phoenix.
...and "wet is wet" "tight is tight" "sexy is sexy"....have toured the world drumming in a band for 20 yrs....all women taste and fuck different....color was never an issue...thou i will say....women with the most strict religious upbringing (doesnt matter) seem to be most sexually open and nasty....
This is a tough one, because I've been with all sorts of 'races', but they're basically American. Different color on the outside, ie banana, but basically white on the inside. Was with an Indian girl, dot not feather, and she looked Indian but I was basically fucking a Valley Girl. I've never done a Japanese in Japan
Yes to many Central and South Americans, East European, various countries, Asian (Korean, Thai, Philipino, Chinese, etc.), Black (American, never in Africa). Had the opportunity on several occasions, but AIDs scared the shit out of me), Jewish, most European; Swedish, Finnish, Swiss, German, Dutch (love the Dutch), Spanish (Spain), British, Irish, etc.
No to Eskimo, Native American, Middle Eastern, Armenian, Khazikstand and nearby countries, Pakistani, Greenland, and Iceland. I don't think I've ever done a real Australian.
In answer tot he OP, in my mainstream life I've had LTRs with both white and Asian women. never so much as dated a black woman. With only a few exceptions my non-P4P dates, regardless of race or ethnicity have been with women who for the most part grew up in America. My most notable exception was a Latina woman, Spanish/Guatemalan who was sexier than any woman I've ever known.
On the P4P side, I've touched all three bases, but admittedly, still mostly white and Asian or Asian mixed. Not that I don't find black women beautiful, it's that I generally go for petite and thin providers and, at least where I shop, the AA providers tend to be more on the athletic (in a good way) or voluptuous side.
There are so many ethnicities to enjoy but I've given up on any kind of bucket list. Just too many mongers and not enough East Indian providers, if the previous posts on this question are any indication.
And to Gaga's point about loving the differences, IMHO it's not the race or even ethnicity, per se, it's the cultural differences they bring from different regions of the world.
Mexicans two or three times and Orientals a half a dozen times grew tired of the language barrier. Same goes for the Eastern Europeans girls that are here in Chicago, seen them maybe 10x but have moved on. At this point in my hobbying career I unashamedly only see 100% all-American white girls.
Been with white, Hispanic, black, and middle eastern.
Only reason Asian isn't on the list is because she cancelled the day of and I was leaving town the next day. Never had the opportunity with a Native American or an Indian woman.
I believe that is it for the major races,
If there are any women in the DC area whose races I have not been with, hit me up. I am open for it
When I got out of the doomed marriage after almost 20 years, I'd been with only her (Caucasian). Once I started in p4p in '92, I made a concerted effort to broaden my sexual horizons and sampled providers from pretty much every "flavor."
About the only group I have yet to sample has been that of the Southern Asian/Indian sub-continent. This has been more from a lack of providers -- I just haven't seen any in the areas where I was living at the time.
As long as I find her attractive and she's on the same page with what I'm looking for in a session, I'm open to it.
I think I was with every race the first two weeks I was an escort, and it was one of the most liberating two weeks of my life.
I am not sure if I have been with every religion, however. There are 10,000 religions, I think I've been with under 2,000 people.
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How about Inuit (Eskimo)? Australian aboriginals?
Pacific islanders (fiji, tonga, Samoa)?
I’m partial to asians though.
AMPs were my gateway. Actually, just a regular massage with a nice asian lady rubbing my butt turns me on - and I still love that sensual touch many have. I NEEDED to ramp things up from touch that didn’t cross lines though... found a simple HE place, then... a table shower and CBJ place, then... signed up for P411 and enjoyed FS with a lovely Thai lady... all within a 2-3 week period. Demeanor- wise, many asians are just a good match for me. And stature-wise too, as I’m short. Had a Thai girlfriend for 3 years.
Also, in the hobby, it helps that many asians have lower rates.
PLUS, while I’m attracted to all kinds of women, and could easily identify a “10” from any race... I find the AVERAGE asian to be more attractive than the average of any other race... So yeah, if I’m scrolling thru P411 and find women I’m more attracted to for 1/2 the price of others... uh, no brainer. Another way to to put it - if you had different hats, each filled with names of gals of particular types, and I had to pick a gal from one hat... I’m going with the asian hat. The latina hat would be a strong second choice.
So for the record:
"Variety is the spice of life!" And to add a quote from an old co-volunteer of mine, "in beds anyway".
Do Vampires count OP?!
Put me down for Vampire kgirl.
Err...never mind.
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I haven't been with an Asian woman yet.
My deal is as long as a woman is hwp. I can give a shit if she's black, white, yellow, red, polka dot or wtf ever anyone has any hangups about.
As long as we treat each other right. Fucking come on.
It's probably a sign of a skin condition or perhaps mumps or measles. COVID might not scare me, but that doesn't mean that I am not at least scared of some diseases. lol
Well if you're drunk enough she could look polka dot .
2020 = 28*
of mumps and measles, polka dots can also be caused by a drug overdose or an alcohol binge . . . . not by her, by him. Lol
