I am not talking about throwing some money into a shoe box, but really planning for retirement.

As far as I am concerned any provider worth their thong should be able to move on after 5 or 10 years, buy a property and a business and give up that golden pussy to one man.

A 401K is not a shoe size or Y2K's brother. You don't want to be caught out there with your choppers in a glass doing BBBJ's, right?

The question was for providers who work, not for "hobbyists" sucking up SSI and Medicaid.

I probably remind you of that big bad jail guard, not someone who counsels you on the phone.  

I'm beginning to think that somehow Ter has been infiltrated by a few kindergarten kids who may have stumbled onto daddy's TER password and get their kicks polluting the posts with their childish poo-poo and pee-pee humor.

Why bother giving these children any legs Mikey.

Let them have a ball entertaining themselves without interference from any educated, respectful members.

Continue children !

the last paragraph pretty much guarantied that few ladies would respond.

        I think H was trying this time but he just couldn't overcome his deeper misogynistic urges.

I've talked to a few providers after being asked what they might do with their money and expectedly, most don't. Most also don't see this as a career option so don't think they'll be around long and that is the biggest lie many tell themselves. Providers could set up a small business very easily so that they might legitimately save money through good investment vehicles. It's a shame really and when I've see ladies in their 40s and still at it, I've often wondered what they'll do other than the scenario you propose.

what we do before after inbetween and with our money is not part of your fantasy and none of your business.

many Ladies in their 40s may have only been in this business for a few yrs, its usually a stepping stone and they may not want you to know what the real deal is with their finances.

free advice to providers regarding how they should run their business, how to prepare for retirement, how to stay looking young, how to not put on too many pounds, and how to think like you think; not scattered-brained.

You would be doing all of them such a tremendous service, and I'm certain they will shower you with all their goodwill!

I tried to type all that with a straight face, but was unsuccessful!

Oh yeah! You basically put the last nail in the coffin.

Hate to be the fly on the wall when you two get together to hatch a plan. Really?

You're more pathetic than the guy I give a buck to on the corner when I happen to be at the light.

At least he has a sign up saying, "Why lie? I need beer!"

His honesty holds a hell of a lot more water than your sorry ass shit!

I plan on your retirement, his retirement, and their retirement! Sure beats marrying an old geezer and waiting for him to keel over to get his pension, lol!

Tired of reading you're fucked up shit.

I'll admit, I can be an ass. But more often than not, the people here know I'm trying to convey a twisted sense of humor. Some get it, some don't. Out of those that don't, some come around.

You're just a douche. Plain and simple.

Wish I could use the fact you have no reviews as a reason for an attack, but that would go against my respect and deep regard for Gambler and KJ. God knows I hate to be a hypocrite.

In any case, by your posts, you have zero respect for the ladies. None, what so ever.

And before you, or anyone else for that matter, go off on me because I didn't know who Danielle was/is, that's my fault. I asked a question, and got beat on for it. Wasn't the first, and sure as shit won't be the last. That is, if the mods let it go thru.

You kinda remind me of someone I know and talk with. He hasn't been on here for a while, but we still talk. He's freezing his hairy member off now as we speak. But's he's the shit, and you're just a shit.

Just sometimes, a certain man-cunt tests my ire.

You saw it live and inperson. But this one. Oh yeah, this one. This one needs to be met. Know what I'm sayin'?

I think it'll be fun! Been a loooong time!

with the providers there hunkie. Playing mangina for sympathy will not work with any provider with an attention span.
Do be SAFE with the providers you see.

But there are a couple of other posters on this thread that do. Have at it with them.
TER does not allow gay reviews, but if you put on your wig you can be reviewed. TS67 lmao.

A one-eyed, Rio Grande brown mud-fish.

It takes 2, maybe 3 flushes to get rid of his ass.

Crude, I admit. Admittedly, totally understandable.

And your arrogance.

You make stupid statements about how much someone makes, how much they should save, and what their retirement should or should not look like.  You have now elevated yourself to potentate 4th class and we all bow before your buffoonery.  What a moron you are.

You are a pitiful, self-important snot who serves only one purpose:  to allow us to laugh at you.  Not at your posts, for they are not funny.  But at you for thinking you get under people's skin, when you are nothing more than  the 21st century version of the Three Stooges, only they understood it was a farce, and were paid to make us laugh.  You we laugh at for free.  It took me about 75 seconds to write this, and you are only worth half of that.  I am just feeling generous tonight.

He only asked it rhetorically to set up his monologue of stupidity.

Do you actually think he cares what anyone else thinks?  He already knows everything his pea brain is capable of holding!  

I'd expect more out of Marikod. Must be as buzzed as I am...

It is only legitimate between one provder and another on a provider only board.

(Or to her accountant or financial advisor.)

I personally think it's a reasonable question.  Perhaps none of his business, but not in the realm of stupid that many topics here reach.  If you read the words written by Hirogen and pretend that they were posted by, say, mrfisher, would you have attacked him in the same manner?  I'd guess not, and if I'm right, the terrorists have won.  I actually spent some time this morning doing some financial planning for a local provider, and made an appointment with another.  Some even know of my jokes of setting up Whore-01(k) plans.  Why wouldn't you hope that a lady would be able to retire at some future point?  I sure as fuck hope that I'll be able to.

Now, I'm not saying that Hirogen isn't trying to get your goat, but why do you so freely turn it over to him?

The manginas know how to jump. It then became a contest to see who could jump the highest and get the most attention, climbing on each others backs for height.

At least Jessica had the intelligence to actually add something worth reading to the thread.

I will continue to bestow my wisdom unto this board.
The post count means nothing to me and I am not competing with anyone, just caring and sharing.

What's wrong with throwing money into a shoe box? Brown paper bag under the mattress worked for me during my years as an unlicensed pharmaceutical distributer. Eventually having a safe became a good idea. When you've accumulated enough of it, you clean it up and find legitimate investments...er, ones that appear to be legitimate.  

"As far as I am concerned any provider worth their thong" - this made it occur to me, it's been a while since I've encountered one wearing a thong. Boy shorts and those hideous french cut panties are all the fucking rage now. I miss the slutty fashion trends of the late 90's - early 00's.    

First as a single mom of 3 kids and only doing this part time . I am not raking in the dough.. second I have an education ( 2 year degree in Healthcare and 2 years in insurance holding two liscenses in the field.. ) I own my home.. have a car payment and all that goes with life.. Don't be so quick to judge. It seems you take much in life for granted........

Funny how you pulled out all the stupid and drunk asswipes out of their holes....LOL.
Why it just wouldn't be a normal day around here without the Mangina pussies coming out....and another thinly veiled threat from the town drunk.

Well played Sir....well played.

Hirogen makes it to the top poster?

What's wrong with being a provider in their 40s? Maybe at 40 they still enjoy what they do.

Try something different, a positive post perhaps.  Maybe get a feel for other members before ripping into them.  Don't worry about ever being mistaken for a mangina or man for that matter your antics and name calling are more comparable to that of a pissed of school girl.
Doc

The question is reasonable, taken out of context with the rest of the post and his history.

The judgement is coming in the context of his posting history, which does make anything he says suspect.

One needs to be wise to share wisdom with others,  as far as caring, bullshit, it appears the only thing you care about is aggravating others.
Doc

No thanks. Some of you are still spitting up on your converse all stars.  

If you really take a look at the thread it is your buddies that managed to turn the thread into one of your mangina save a ho bitchfests.

I guess I should be a nice dude and thank you for the laughs.

Get lost.

Some low-level money laundering is required, obiously, but it can be done. Smurfing, maybe a shell company if she's really raking it in. On the higher end they make the aquaintence of businessmen and entrepreneurs regularly; undoubtedly one or several could be "pursuaded" to help her out, maybe even fabricate a W2 for her. There are options for the savvy business woman.

Because it was said in a condescending tone. It was meant to stir the pot and piss people off. It shows his contempt for the women of this business.

If he would sprinkle in a few well intentioned posts possibly; and  I mean possibly he could be accepted into this brotherhood. It is not all about reviews, it is also about information sharing and watching each others back. Each and every post has been spewed with venom and ill intent.

As a moderator possibly you know more than you are saying but only time will tell.

But I still can't hear a tone in written words.  I firmly believe that Hirogen has duped the room into thinking that he's a one trick pony, only capable of slamming providers.  I honestly didn't see that in his initial post here.  I'm clearly in the minority here, so maybe I need to stop smoking crack.  I'm just terrified how reality will look without it.

Apparently not. Next you are going to ask how much money they have. Are you trying to steal the money? Are you protege Maddof? or is that MadeOff?

Some people who are shoe salesmen take advantage of their 401K plans at work, some do not.

Some people who have their own businesses have set up SEP plans, and some have not.

Some people have learned to always "pay yourself first" and some have not ... in EVERY walk of life.

And guess what? Some providers save for retirement, and some do not.

You see, there is a 500 lb Elephant in the living room of retirement planning ... and that 500 lb elephant is the fact you cannot officially invest money that officially doesn't exist because you never earned it because you are in an underground economy.

While I am quite certain that some providers in an all-cash business, unlike the guy who owns the hot dog stand, painstakingly account for every penny and pay every red cent necessary to the IRS and then some ... I am equally certain that a great many do not.

SEPs, for example, are limited to 15% of your AGI as a contribution.

See the problem?

Basically, your question assumes facts not in evidence; and furthermore draws the conclusion that a provider who doesn't contribute to a formalized on-the-books retirement plan isn't worth her salt.

You can keep your crack, saves more booze for me. But you're a smart guy and I do believe you can sense a tone when you hear one.

The guy hurls insults and innuendo and mostly toward providers. My guess is most of them won't see him especially as repeats.

Just saying.

About damn time you showed up for the party!

You do if you don't want a shit storm coming back upon you; I for one wouldn't spit into the wind just hoping the breeze changes directions.

I have no use for stereotypes, save for humorous irony, and I am not jumping to any conclusions. I am stating what I know based on experience.

I've handled my share of illegitimate proceeds, far in excess of what I could reasonably hope to conceal from those who may be interested in knowing it's origins. And when you have an excessive surplus of cash, someone always takes an interest.

I too had a "real world" occupation as I deemed neccessary to appease those prying eyes, lest I be stuck with a mother-fuck load of unspendable cash which would have defeated the purpose of taking the risks I took to obtain it. But that was not enough. Spending that cash became more of a risk than the illegitmate methods by which I obtained it. Because while 'business' may be conducted discretely, the envious nature of human beings gives everyone a bloodhound-like nose for following the money.

I would strongly disagree with the notion that what you do for a living is irrelivant as long as you pay taxes, the IRS not excluded. When someone has a mind to uncover the truth for whatever the reason - a tip off from a rival or jealous neighbor, an overzelous government employed hack, or dumb fucking luck with a twist of ill fate - you'll regret not covering your tracks. Money leaves fucking Sasquatch-sized footprints behind.

Your faith in the guise of "escort and entertainer" not withstanding, a federal judge and jury is apt to simply call a spade a spade and the proof is easier to come by than most want to believe - especially when it comes to following the money.

Time behind walls gives one ample time to reflect on such a carelss mistake. But don't take my word for it, just hope you don't have to see for yourself.