After a session a provider asked me to not submit a review “Because I already have enough of them”, which she does (probably 50+). Looking back I have a feeling she just does not want me to review her since the session was very lackluster and she is considered a “high end” provider charging very “high end” prices. I want to respect her wishes but I have a bit of a feeling that other guys might want to know about this.
Thoughts?!?!?
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to come on here and admit you were conned by a high-end provider at VERY high-end prices who gave you a lackluster session. Now, if you want to really help your fellow hobbyists, you should name her here. Then a review is not necessary and you have done the right thing for everyone involved.
Since I don't write reviews I can't exactly preach to you that you have a "duty to the community", but it sounds like you REALLY want to write this review to keep other guys from parting with so much money, only to end up with so little for it, so let your conscience be your guide.
For the record, the consensus opinion about writing reviews about providers who ask not to be reviewed is that if you were happy with the session, and you ever want to return to see her again, you should respect her request BUT if she does NOT deliver as promised then all bets are off.
Let's put it this way, if you got bad service from a contractor, waiter, hair stylist or anyone else in the service industry and that person asked you not to tell anyone treating you badly without offering to make things right with you, would you really feel bound to respect that kind of request?
I get the tired old response from others when I call somebody out about not contributing, "Well GaG doesn't write reviews, what about that!" Its a bullshit response. You, GaG, contribute in other ways to the board, in a positive fashion. On another thread a guy says he has seen over a 1,000 women. Where are the reviews? Then the bullshit response, maybe its an alias. Then write some reviews under your alias, its there for a reason. Just venting a bit, obviously.
Not sure what the policy is today but you used to be able to review under your alias -- a quick check was unable to confirm this but you can ask TER or perhaps someone else responding to your query will answer. If you combine that with the fact you have 90 days to submit a review, just wait until around 80 days out and submit it then. She'll be less likely to notice. Anyway, it's your right to write a review.
I did my first one in May, and it went right through.
Give it a month if you're concerned that she ties it to you based on recent activity. The only disadvantage to the alias is that mongers don't get the benefit of comparing your review history to the new review.
As with any constructive criticism, try to start with a few positives.
Or you can wait for some other monger to call her out in a fe months and feel a little guilty about not having spoken up.
I dunno. If I were you old timer I wouldn't be that concerned --- father time catches up to all of us. A lot of guys have trouble getting it up. You got a $600 massage. It happens. That said, you haven't written a review in like 8 years so you probably need some practice. Just write the review.
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If I get nothing else out of this post, I at least got a good chuckle rom your comment. I am not ready to be considered an old timer just yet 😂🤣😂
Post a review please. Include detailed analysis of why the session was lackluster. But be fair and balanced and include any positives about the provider and session as well. That way we can see your experience and compare it with the well-reviewed sessions. That’s my $0.02.
You will help your fellow mongers the most if you write your experience as it happened, and describe the provider and your satisfaction/dissatisfaction in details.
Leaving no review for a lackluster session, unless she had similar subpar reviews, makes it very likely someone will also get one. If they read your review, maybe they will have second thoughts.
By far I get the most info from negative reviews. To paraphrase Tolstoy, all positive reviews are alike. All negative ones are unique in their own way. This doesn't mean I necessarily don't see the girl. It just means I have more information available to me to make a more informed decision.
If not then you should write a honest review so that others can hopefully decide if they want to see her or not?
If you did agree to not review her and feel as if you want to keep your word then do as the others here have mentioned and give out her name here which is not a review>
Or you could do as I once did after stupidly agreeing to not review a highly rated girl before our session started and mention your experience on her local board like I did. I just talked about my lack luster experience I had with her without using her name and it was amazing how many guys new who I was talking about!
Never again will I agree to not review someone until at least the end of the session and only if I believe the girl was really at least trying to please me!
Yep, a provider making you agree to not write a review should probably raise some alarm.
Imagine you go to a restaurant and they say, before you eat you need to agree you will not leave a yelp review. Sounds fishy.
Are you saying none of the providers you have already seen will see you again now? That seems odd given you don't seem to be a hard reviewer (never seen any of the girls you list so have no idea if you're being kind or generous in your scores).
But it also seems unlikely that if you were paying top dollars and have not submitted any review that the girl would proactively BL you. Maybe they are all being skittish due to the "second wave" or something. Do you have a favorite that you've seen a lot that might respond to just a Hey how are you these days message?
If she asked you not to, there may be other very legitimate reasons she doesn't want one, safety reasons, jealous ex's, the list goes on.
If you do it anyways, prepare to be blacklisted.
I work hard for my money.
Her: $600 donation please?
You: here you go; I've read your reviews and have been looking forward to an awesome session with you! Whoo hoo!
The deed is done. Your conclusion --) lackluster; DAMNIT!!!!
I'm not trying to arm chair QB your game, but if you decide to write a review on this provider, please reflect on what % was her and what % was you?! If you brought your A-game and was happy and respectful, say so in your review. And you still got a phoned that shit in session.
Her: don't write a review? she bats her lashes and gives you her $8 billion dollars sparkle smile. She looks for you to at least nod YES. As she realizes that you might come on TER and write she phoned that shit in and you paid top dollar and wish you woulda seen someone else or two with that $$$$$$.
You:. Shaking your head as you're leaving about how your expectations weren't met.
I'm with Rocketbro. Let your monger bros know that you paid good money for a mediocre, at best, session. She can elevate her game after reading the review and mongers will write better reviews. Or she can continue to phone that shit in and caveat emptor to any monger who shows up with the requisite donation in hand and good manners after reading your honest review.
This is why TER is the premiere fuck board.
YMMV
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I saw this FS Massage provider. I had been thoroughly screened. Early in the session, I'm face down, and I give a light caress to her leg. She says, "Please don't touch the massage therapist". It went downhill from there. She said a few other things that I found chilling. WTF?!
Shortly after the turn, I said I was just going to leave. I was done. No point in continuing. She says "I suppose you're going to write a bad review". I said I don't write bad reviews. She kept the whole donation, and I left.
TER was not available, at the time, but, she'd been around for a few years, and I figured she'd be good. I'm pretty easy to get along with. It turns out, about 25% of her reviews sound like my experience. Otherwise, she gets 8's and 9's. Hard to figure. Maybe she's just moody.
I still think reviews are valuable. I pay for VIP. We know there are guys who shill, and assholes that blame providers unfairly. What are you going to do? My attempts to get appointments seem to go unanswered at a higher rate. Did she blacklist me, anyway?
There has to be others that will better care for you.
Sorry if I gave the impression that I was trying to contact her. I was pretty pissed off, and I would never call her, too many other options.
I'm saying it seems odd, calling other providers, and getting ghosted, as the kids say. Maybe I should adjust the donation that I'm willing to make for inflation! The other thing is, I'm really not that interested in massage. Maybe I should avoid that whole scene.
Not sure why my response to you showed up under rocket's post....
Just to clarify:
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OR, is this something that happened more than 20 years ago, before TER came along in 1999? Or from the Middle Ages, maybe 10 years ago (2009)?
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If this is ancient history, I don't think you need to worry about a blacklist. Do you have the same cell phone number you had in 1999 (or 2009)? Number portability wasn't required until 2003 in the US and many people kept switching numbers anyway, because of the hassle (up to a 5 day wait). (Now it's a lot easier and faster.) And who ports their hobby phone number?
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I hope things are going better for you now.
Thanks. It happened less than a year ago. I'm not too worried. Yet. I suppose TER was available through a proxy, but, I didn't bother. No providers in my area got reviews for over a year.
One, that I experienced, was the lady was going back to be below the radar for personal reason and was telling ‘newly acquired’ customers she doesn’t need any more reviews and she was excellent in service.
Second, kinda similar, her cop husband was suspicious and he new about ter ... so ... she didn’t want any reviews.
Anyway, you must do whatever makes you fell good about your decision and don’t let sarcasm doled out by CDL, GaG etc. come in the way of doing the right thing.
You should keep your word to her ... I will.
If the cop husband knows her working name and can find it on TER, I think there might be other problems.
I believe the OP never said whether he gave any word to her, he just said in the initial post that she asked him not to write one. Being asked to not write one and not promising anything is just that. If he promised, then I'd agree with you.
Anytime I have to make a decision like this, I look at the upsides and downsides overall, and then, as they may apply to me.
The upside here is that you are doing this community a service by writing the review. Not much upside on this one for you, however.
The downsides, however, are numerous and are perhaps more weighty. You could be outed by a potentially BSC provider - maybe she's not and has enough offsetting positive reviews, but one "bad apple" usually spoils the bunch.
I could go on with more potentials here but, for me, the downsides clearly and heavily outweigh the upsides.
If writing a negative or mediocre review entails outing by a provider, what is the point of reviews ? Might as well get rid of them.
If providers only accept positive reviews, and negative reviews means a monger will be outed, isn't the whole system a farce ?
I'm not familiar with the acronym 'BSC'. Please share?
TIA
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I am surprised that one is not listed in the acronyms in the TER manual.
It's on urbandictionary as the first result for BSC, so that's that.
No need to write a review. She's high-end, and you didn't really enjoy the time you spent with her. No details needed. Just tell us who it was so someone else can save his money.
That would wreck her Motus operandi! I have noticed that as time goes by some providers have. Increased their donations while decreasing their performance/services. You owe it to the other Hobbyists to write a fair review of what transpired. That is why this forum was created.