Pardon the alias.

I certainly don't want it but it does seem to be the way certain hookers get their scores up. Of course, there are other ways, like blackmail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKWmFWRVLlU

I don't go around saying....she is 7 or she is 9 or she is 10...or what have you.. I have been a big opponent of the scoring system. It introduces unnecessary drama in the mongering world. Its a real shame that we can't submit reviews just based plainly on the verbiage and not the numerical system.  

I suggest you give all you have to the poor--except one tow bag full of clothes--and travel the world seeking the true meaning of life. The sunshine, fresh air, and simple food will make you beautiful beyond your dreams. You will become adept at bringing comfort and happiness to others in exchange for your day-to-day survival. And you will emerge when you least expect it as a real rabbit. Et, I mean as a 10/10. You'll emerge as a 1/10. Only wiser than all the other 10/10's who just booked a shoot with Aldo.

Posted By: Skinny_Minnie

Pardon the alias.  
   
 Ok.  So there's a big elephant in the room that we all know, but no one wants to talk about:  The fact that there is some "rounding up" of scores in the hobby.    
   
 In the real world, I believe that I am a 8.5-9.16 in appearance depending on my hair, makeup, and outfit.  But in the hobby, my average appearance score is closer to 10.    
   
 So my question is, how can a girl turn into a REAL WORLD 10?  Or can she?  Are there any TRUE 10s in the world?  Is the "10" just an optical allusion?  For example, simply wearing a pretty pink or red dress with heels and my hair down and wavy can boost me .5 to 1 points in the real world, whereas if I'm wearing a tshirt and sweatpants with a baseball cap, my looks can plummet as many as 3 or 4 points.  
   
 Is a real world 10 a rare creature born of great genes, or is any 8 with the right styling just a "10 diamond in the rough"?  
   
 Discuss.

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No one is barebacking or blackmailing everyone.  Lol

..unconditionally, through thick or thin, good or bad, right or wrong…ooops! That sounds like marriage….but in hobbying, I don’t think marriage is part of the equation lol! So I may have a hard time getting past 9.

I strongly think that most perfect tens actually come from 8 or 9 looking girls who bring out the best in themselves and are perceived by guys who think of them as perfect tens.  A bit of "beholder"  and "avsolute"  both at play to some varying extent.  

professional make up artist, really good hair stylist, the right outfit and lighting, can sometimes turn a 7 into a 10 even. Of course photoshopping doesn't hurt.

I could use it to lick you somewhere, if you'd like. LOL!

Except for the photoshopping comment.  I was asking about if an 8 girl can BECOME a real world 10.  So, I agree with you about lighting and styling.  This is why girls buy so many clothes!  The fitting room lighting in a lot of stores is *really* good!

That's where I think the high scores come from. Some on here talk like they bag tens all day. Then I see the same folks chasing around anything but, a ten. I don't say nothing about it.

...she isn't a 10. A 10 is without all that. I don't think an 8 (again without the help) can be a 10. I like when woman wear little or no make-up. Yes, a woman can look better with make-up but that's not her it's the make-up.

Having been apart of the hobby and this world for many years, I have been able to meet alot of very beautiful women. There are many ladies that I have met who would be considered "real world" 10s to my vanilla friends.

I don't know that I have many if any women with very little make up and a very natural look that I would say were 10's. 9's sure, but to say that they are perfect 10's without make up and hair done up and hard thing to do.

And to add to that, there is nothing wrong with an 8 (really hot) or even a 7 (attractive)!

Providers in general are better looking than the female population as a whole, but it's obviously a much smaller population. So, a guy who's scoring you is probably not comparing you to the general population, but to all other providers.

if you see them without their makeup things change a lot..I think the look ratings also are based on body, attitude and performance.  Someone once said "If it's a once in a lifetime experience, how can I give more than one." I now grade lower

to suck and fuck....    seeing her from this perspective does produce an optical illusion for some,  resulting in a bit of generosity....

To what I take to be your primary question, I am not sure there's much you could do with styling, makeup, etc. to make yourself into a real world 10 for me if you're naturally an 8.  Obviously I can't know how much makeup some of people I'd rate real world 10s were wearing when I saw them, but I have trouble believing the gap between what I'd consider a real world 10 and a TER or "hobby" 10 would be closed by makeup.  

Such as most providers are not as hot as strippers you've seen.  So I think the context and environment that you see a woman in makes her more or less attractive.  Strippers wear glittery outfits and grind on your lap so they're super sexy/hot, providers are hotter than real world women because they suck and fck, and regular girls walking down the street are not as hot because maybe they're just wearing jeans and a blouse or pushing strollers, not flaunting their sex appeal.  So the context and clothes, etc take away from or add to a woman's appearance score.

And "why no A.A.?" !

You'd want to fit some consensus of what the people appraising you consider quality, and then develop your image to conform to that. It isn't really a fictional notice, it's what looks attract the most men. Think of it more as a game. They're playing already, so they might as well play to win...unless they just like to play.

esides some score whiners!

And seemingly, is looking for trouble.  As far as that goes our little piñata has, at least, come to the right place.
I guess he also thinks I'm into blackmail, too.

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are subjective.

Posted By: Skinny_Minnie

Pardon the alias.  
   
 Ok.  So there's a big elephant in the room that we all know, but no one wants to talk about:  The fact that there is some "rounding up" of scores in the hobby.    
   
 In the real world, I believe that I am a 8.5-9.1 in appearance.  But in the hobby, my average appearance score is closer to 10.    
   
 So my question is, how can a girl turn into a REAL WORLD 10?  Or can she?  Is the "10" just an optical allusion?  For example, simply wearing a pretty pink or red dress with heels and my hair down and wavy can boost me .5 to 1 points in the real world, whereas if I'm wearing a tshirt and sweatpants with a baseball cap, my looks can plummet as many as 3 points.  
   
 Is a real world 10 a rare creature born of great genes, or is any 8 with the right styling a "10 diamond in the rough"?  
   
 Discuss.  
 

-- Modified on 8/20/2014 8:53:43 PM

insist they prefer "natural" women- who don't wear makeup. But honestly, in a room full of ladies, some with makeup and some without makeup, I guarantee you they'll be ogling the ones with makeup. Too funny!

9s or 10s are given out to the ones who are your "type."

I think when guys hear the word "makeup" they get an image in their mind of Tammy Fay Baker.  Caked up face, rouge on their cheeks, blue eye shadow, black eyebrows, hot pink lipstick.  

Just take a look at all the celebrity before and after makeup pics. In this realm, performance will raise your appearance score. I've met some true physical 10's (by current western beauty standards), but I've also met others who were just cute/attractive on first glance, but turned into the most beautiful in the world by the end of the encounter.

... they're as subjective as anything can be.  As evidence, I offer all the TER profiles where the Appearance scores range from 5 or 6 to 10.  Some of that may be due to "grade inflation", but I think much of it is reviewers actually believing the lady was a 10... or 9, or 8... or a 5.

...with her is something else entirely. I will look for sure. I will spend time evaluating and don't forget (for me at least) personality is important. So I prefer little or no make-up. Doesn't mean I wouldn't spend time with a lady that used it. In the case of a provider I'd ask her to not wear it. My second wife used way to much. I asked her to not wear as much after we'd known each other for a while. (Divorced now but that's another story. No not over make-up.)