a film about aging actresses and their diminishing roles in the entertaining industry.  Directed by the actress Rosanna Arquette with interviews of over a dozen famous actresses in their more candor moments.

Showtime movie channel - 8 EDT, 8 PDT and 7 CDT.

Since looks and age are important to both actresses and ladies in this hobby, I think this documentary would be interesting to both ladies and hobbyists alike.

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who was probably interviewed (i didn't see the documentary). if there ever was an example of a strong-minded independent actress ("indy", hey there's a topical word! whose head-strong ways damaged her own career it would have to be this here lithe gazelle (and if a more luscious brunette ever graced the silver screen in the 80s her name escapes me!)

now i ask you, is there one iota of comparative talent in any one of today's hot celebrity-actress (note the order) "twinkies"?  the ones that are handed statuettes just because they look great wearing Versace and campaigning for Lancome or Maybelline?

Sean was labelled as "difficult" by the slave-master himself, Oliver Stone, in WALL STREET, where she was originally cast to play Darryl Hannah's character but butted heads with him so much, he recast her to the more minor role of Gordon Gecko's wife (in which she still managed to out-shine Hannah in her 2 minutes of screen presence!) ... and speaking of "hot", am i the only one who's had Sean's "limousine f*ck" scene from NO WAY OUT (with Kevin Costner) seared into his brain cells!?  LOL

Hollywood, like many other bizness (including the hobby) is NOT a meritocracy i'm afraid ... (although i like to think sites like TER help right that wrong when it comes to the hobby)

Her career is sliding downward as she ages.  Recently, has managed to play opposite Mel Gibson in his Vietnam film (which bombed however), but also played opposite Sylvester Stallone in a very lame direct-to-video.

Like Heather Graham, Madeleine Stowe had that slightly crazy (as in for-real crazy, in real life) look in her eyes.  Same look Margot Kidder had.

I can't believe she's over 60 years old now. Always had the hots for her...
Her career made a great start when she was nominated for an Oscar as Elaine Robinson in The Graduate (1967). She followed this up with Paul Newman and Robert Redford in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (1969),one of my alltime favorite Western's. Despite Stepford Wive's, she drifted into relative TV movie oblivian. I pulled the following sexy scene from a Butch Cassidy web site where Ms.Ross does a fantasy school teacher role play for Redford(Sundance). Butch(Newman) would later get sloppy seconds after the famous "raindrop" bicycle scene.


In a nearby part of town that evening, primly-dressed mid-twenties schoolteacher Etta Place (Katharine Ross) with her hair in a bun returns to her farmhouse. [The scene mocks the cliched concept of the starched Western schoolmarm.] She lights a lantern, and undresses down to a white slip as she moves into her bedroom. The Sundance Kid, who has made a forced entry and waited for her in a corner of the room, surprises her there. His appearance - with a grin on his face - causes her to jump back in fright. Sundance commands her to keep slipping out of her clothes for him - at gunpoint:


Sundance: Keep going, teacher lady. (He reaches for his pistol and points it at her.) It's OK, don't mind me. Keep on going. (She nervously removes her outer slip.) Put down your hair. (She reaches back behind her head with both hands. Her hair falls to her shoulders.) Shake your head. (He examines her appreciatively. Cocking his gun, he threatens for her to undo the last remaining bits of clothing. She unbuttons her undergarment, revealing the flesh of her body. Then he unbuttons his holster, rises from his chair and approaches toward her with amorous intentions to force himself upon her.)
Etta: (Unafraid, she watches him approach. He begins to caress her.) (Sadly) Do you know what I wish?
Sundance: What?
Etta: (chiding) That once, you'd get here on time!
It is soon apparent that this is a game. She is his hot-blooded, renegade, twenty-six year old girlfriend - not a demure virgin. They are lovers that know each other very well. She wraps her arms around him as they embrace and kiss.

Cheers!

Heather Graham is psycho?  What's the deal there?

Less than 4 months to Jewish Chanukah.  Debra Winger
is Jewish.  Jennifer Connelly is half-.
What about Katharine Ross, totally hot, is she?
Candice Bergen isn't, but, as boring as the movie
is, take a LOOK at her in Carnal Knowledge (1970)
with Nicholson she is S-O-O-O-O HOT! even if you
don't normally dig ice queens, which I do.  Peter Klein

She just has those intense eyes that when they flare up really big, make you wonder if she knows where your steak knives are hidden.  Madeline Stowe did as well, but it is freakier to see in the young Ms. Graham, becuse she is more often kind of bubbly, whereas Ms. Stowe always looked like she was on the edge.

you know i love you, man. and i got wood when she smoked that cigarette and answered harrison ford's questions in 'blade runner'... but the girl was a bit loony. she did a film about coke addiction with james woods (can't remember the title). they had a hot affair and when he broke it off rumor has it she mailed him a dead cat. and then, of course, her transsexual role in 'ace ventura' pretty much sealed her fate

that was THE BOOST (1988) and actually wasn't half-bad as drug-addiction movies go (it suffered all the late-80s cliches of coke-addled couples trying to make it in corportate America) but the two of them made a decent acting team IMHO

but yes, the story about the dead cat has been confirmed! she's done wackier stuff. when she was shunned by Hollywood she moved out to Sedona AZ and has been living there ever since (i think)  thumbing her cute little nose at the big studios (and even poking fun at her image, which is what that ACE VENTURA movie was all about i think, i haven't seen it) ... she has gone on record saying some real nasty things about Oliver Stone (probably deservedly, cuz everyone says he's an ego-maniacal asshole)

My favorite statement on the subject is this line of poetry from the great 17th century British metaphysical poet
John Donne:

"There is no excellent beauty that hath not some strangeness in the proportion."

instead of a 17th century British male, perhaps it would remind me less of the fact that this kind of statement is usually used by people who have sour grapes or are jealous.

I have been fortunate enough to know some women who were truly beautiful outside and in.  They were also smart, as they wouldn't go to bed with me...but not for lack of my trying! :P

These days, strangeness seems to be in everyone's proportion.  As Dickens said, "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times".

Yes Lucy Liu is hot, Cam Diaz maybe, Drew doesn't do it for me.

women he dated always turned out to be whackos.  He was neither jealous not experiencing sour grapes.

It's a mistake to confuse being crazy with being unbeautiful inside.  I have known crazy women who were beautiful inside as well as outside.

Great quote, but its by Francis Bacon, not Donne.

Just fyi.

O.

but I will accept that they are not always exclusive.

Most psychologists would suggest that if a man dates "beautiful" women who "always turned out to be wackos(sic)", that it may be more reasonable to assume that the man is drawn to "beautiful wackos" more than beauty causes wackiness.

how you know what most psychologists would suggest.  Have you personally polled them on this?