are there any providers that really rely just on a condom for birth control? nothing is fool proof. secondary method should be used also. law of averages would say that the more sex you have the more likely that a condom will fail
I was recently in another city and made a date with a working girl ($400 for an hour) who provided the condom we used during the session. After cowgirl and missionary, I elected to finish with her in the doggy position. I was pumping away and noticed it began feeling better and better. We both came hard and when I withdrew, the condom was in tatters. Everything I had in me went deep inside of her, sans condom. She began to freak out! I did nothing to cause this accident, either directly or indirectly and, as stated, she provided the condom and put it on me (with her mouth) before penetration occurred. I assured her I was healthy in every way and asked he if she was as well. She said she was, but I'm going to an M.D. later this week to get checked out.
Nothing i said would comfort her and she was an emotional wreck. I offered to take her to an all night pharmacy for a "Plan B" pill if that was an issue, but she said she just wanted to shower and leave, which she did. She was obviously angry with me, though I did nothing whatsoever to precipitate the incident. I would assume that working girls are on an alternative form of birth control, but she was so pissed and anxious to leave that we never got to discuss that. She verified me before we met and has my name and contact info, so if she is not on another method of birth control, do I have any alternatives if a baby bump appears? I most certainly do NOT want to be a father, especially to a working girl's child. I don't even know if pregnancy was what she was worried about, as she was so freaked, it was difficult to get any coherent answers out of her.
I've had a condom break before with a civilian girl and she simply said we need to go to the pharmacy for "Plan B", which we did the next morning. No big deal. But this provider acted like it was the end of the world for her.
A condom failure has to be something which occurs from time to time in a provider's career. Is there a protocol to deal with it? What is the proper etiquette for a client to follow when such an unfortunate event occurs? What procedure do you working girls follow in the event of condom breakage?
Thanks in advance for your input.
I have had it happened a few times over the years as well, however nothing came of it. It must of been the first time this has happened to the provider and can understand her issues. Unfortunately if a baby bump occurs, you are SOL brother..
One question - why couldn't you tell from going in and out that the condom broke? I am always careful that way.
but try to understand hers as well. Providers, (especially ones in a low price bracket) often have the issue of clients trying to remove the condom. Doggy, in particular, causes providers to become vulnerable to clients removing the condom without notice. To be honest... it's pretty difficult for women to tell if the condom is on or off, but not really difficult for men to tell. My guess would be she assumed you removed the condom on purpose or when it came off you failed to care that it came off. Providers... very rarely (if ever) have sex without a condom... clients... I'm not so sure. Often it seems if a client can get away with it somehow it will be attempted. She may have assumed you might have an STD if you attempt this regularly and that is a frightening concept. I'm not trying to implicate you as someone who intentionally removed the cover, but "accidents" are more often than not the lie that is used when a provider realizes the condom is no longer in place.
It sounds like you handled it well, but maybe next time throw an additional hundred dollar bill down so she can get a plan B and you can cover a little of her imminent STD screening.
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Nice job outing your own alias too. 
I am definitely disqualified from this jury duty. Dude, sounds like you cracked the case wide open.
I am amazed at how often I hear of this happening, because I am more of a CIM girl than a cum in the condom type, but on the rare occasion a guy did finish that way, I can't say I've gone through this. I have had many condoms that stay in me, which is also a pain in the ass, and makes you wonder. I stick to 3 brands of condoms, so maybe start using one of those...Beyond Seven, Crown, and some Japanese brand I can't spell off hand lol. You were either too big for the condom she provided, or it was not put on leaving enough room at the tip. Both of you need to get tested asap and refrain from having sex for at least six months...yah, that's gonna happen.
I am amazed at how many people admit to having a condom break, yet they are back providing/hobbying the week after a clean test result where some shit can take MONTHS to show up. Great...now no telling how many people are infected by oral transmission if they have something and don't know it yet
One other thing to think about is the fact she put it on with her mouth. Teeth can damage a condom upping the odds of a break. Maybe that was the cause and not the brand. Anyway while it is true it can take up to six months for STD to appear, as long as they play safe there is little cause to sit out because of a break. Just have to keep up on STD screenings and play safe. You are a CIM girl, several STDs spread that way, I bet you don't sit out months for a clean test between do you? I didn't think so. Why the shock when others don't wait to be 100% sure after a possible exposure?
Please tell me no, because I really don't feel like copying 4 long winded paragraphs from the CDC that say this over and over. You can't get pregnant from CIM either hon. The risk from oral transmission of anything is far less than that of vaginal and anal...everyone knows this, which is why so many of YOU guys insist on bbbj. The main thing is Herpes which duh...any dummy can pretty much spot. Sure, it can be spread during periods the person does not have an outbreak, but that is very rare...another very conservative statement the CDC refuses to admit to, because they can't. Most HIV cases show up in THREE months, not six, but the CDC has to say six. Ask any physician who knows his shit, and he will tell you that by three months 99 percent of cases will be easy to detect.
Welcome back lol. I did not see the part about her putting the condom on with her mouth, so good point. You are missing the fact that those of us who offer bbbj and cim KNOW THIS and are not shocked by the unexpected volcano of your spooge in our vagina or ass, like in the case here. The guys that see us CIM providers also KNOW we could have possibly saw someone the day before who came in our mouths...our reviews confirm it. The guys seeing this provider do NOT know she had a guy accidently unload in her vagina like they know cim providers do...duh, cim. Yes, they very well should abstain because transmission of disease is so much more likely in that region...thanks.
"The risk of HIV transmission from an infected partner ((((through oral sex is much less than the risk of HIV transmission from anal or vaginal sex.)))))) Measuring the exact risk of HIV transmission as a result of oral sex is very difficult. Additionally, because most sexually active individuals practice oral sex in addition to other forms of sex, such as vaginal and/or anal sex, when transmission occurs, it is difficult to determine whether or not it occurred as a result of oral sex or other more risky sexual activities. Finally, several co-factors may increase the risk of HIV transmission through oral sex, including: oral ulcers, bleeding gums, genital sores, and the presence of other STDs. What is known is that HIV has been transmitted through fellatio, cunnilingus, and anilingus (cdc.gov, 2013)."
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First off you are talking about one I repeat one STD. There is many most STDs out there than HIV. Some of them have simular transmission rates oral compared to vaginal. Second HIV hardly has a 100% vaginal spread rate even if he had HIV odds still point to a clean result with a single case of unprotected sex. Add the odds are the person did not have HIV given most don't. You are looking at some long odds. Now let's say it did spread and now the lady has HIV. That sucks, but if she plays safe the risk to her clients is very low, The risk of covered vaginal sex dealing with the spread of HIV is next to zero. HIV risks are based on a pattern of behavior not one.broken condom. I really think you are overstating the risks of one break with a John to careless to check after he felt the difference. Six months income is to much to give up for such a small risk. Read my posts, I generally am a huge fan of safety but even I have to couch it in reality. Plus honestly most providers are BBFS someone any way as are clients, so any guy thinking otherwise is a fool.
My point was rather how ironic it is that a lady will blacklist a guy's REAL NAME simply for ASKING about bbfs, yet if a guy cums in her she will not skip a day of work, much less several months to find out if she really is at risk to others...same goes for the hobbyist. So, the constant "OMG he asked about bbfs" and "The condom broke" threads are pointless if the partakers are not even willing to do what is needed to ensure they are not infected, or they infect the next person. If he/she were THAT worried, they would do just that. But alas, it's all about the money and not about another person's health. Fact is, abstinence is the ONLY way to prevent the spread of STDs if one thinks they are infected. Sorry, the average hooker can't afford to take off a few months of work at the risk of spreading AIDS, but I certainly could and it's not because I am rich either. I'm just not an idiot.
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The way I see it we are all high risk sex partners and as long we are play in this hobby the best we can do is play at our risk level, get checked often and realize the truth we all take risks in playing. Now that being said, you got to admit not checking the condom after there was a change in how it felt was a pretty shitty thing to do.
...not only will abstinence prevent the spread of STD, but it will also cure Global Warming and resource depletion as the Earth's populations dwindles from 7 billion people to zero with the resulting negative population growth...
i have had this happen before and i went to get the morning after pill (plan b) and we both got tested and share our results with each other. that is really all you can do.
i think the reason she may have gotten so freaked out is because as a provider you will come across some guys who will try and get bareback and one of the tricks they use is to pull the condom off without her knowing while in doggie position. even though that is not what you did she may think something like that happened. all you can do is try and communicate with her and let her know that you got tested and everything came out ok (maybe even email her a copy of your results) and ask her to do the same. as far as the birth control issue ask her again if she is on any kind of birth control and if not if she went and got the morning after pill.
By your own admission you it suddenly began to feel better. That was the moment that a responsible client would have slowed, said wait - and pulled out to check it. I know because I've had clients do that "just in case". And it didn't slow the action, it did give me great respect for them and a sense that they valued their health.
There are a number of clients who intentionally cut condom packets or put providers in positions (i.e. lazy doggy) in which they can finnagle the condom off with the motion. This is why the girl was angry with you. You knew you were blowing a load inside her bare and she knew you knew and that is why she was angry.
You said you've had condom breakage with a civilian girl and she was calm about it.
Well that is a civilian. Statistics say that most civilians engage in unprotected sex faster than a sex worker will. Her greatest concern was pregnancy. Our great concern is the end of a lucrative livelihood - our ability to provide for ourselves - and considering how many posts periodically appear on these boards in which clients admit that they hobby with Herpes (and God only knows what else) I'd say that is a valid concern. A pregnancy can be terminated. Once an incurable disease is contracted, there is nothing that can be done.
I'd say that the best thing a client can do is be understanding and be comforting. Freely share with her the last time you were tested and any details about your sexual practices that will assuage her fears if she is upset. Then ask her how often she tests and about her sexual practices (if she's in a monogamous relationship at home etc.). Follow up with an email about marking the date on your calendar and test as soon as possible and again 3-6 months from that date to account for any window periods.
You are responsible for you partners safety. You should have checked the second it started to feel different. Condoms do break, but you can feel it better than she. She had cause to be a bit upset at you as you felt the difference and never checked why. That is on you.
Seems to me that the OP knew something was up and didn't really give a shit. I don't buy for one second that a functioning male would feel a difference and just think to himself, "Wow, this feels way better all of a sudden! Guess I'll carry on!" She had every right to be upset and I'd actually be more disturbed if he had said that she just shrugged it off.
You should be concerned about your possible financial responsibility to this woman if you fathered a baby to her. It sounds a little like you would be angry having a baby with a prostitute. This frequently happens in Tijuana where the clients provide the next generation of street children. There is no financial responsibility to children fathered in Mexico since it is part of the risk of being a provider.
Don't worry about disease. I barebacked well over a 100 young working girls in SEA and I am healthy. My medical doctor friend in San Diego goes to Thailand three times a year and exclusively barebacks,
You did state how much better the feeling was when the condom broke!!!
Nothing i said would comfort her and she was an emotional wreck. I offered to take her to an all night pharmacy for a "Plan B" pill if that was an issue, but she said she just wanted to shower and leave, which she did. She was obviously angry with me, though I did nothing whatsoever to precipitate the incident. I would assume that working girls are on an alternative form of birth control, but she was so pissed and anxious to leave that we never got to discuss that. She verified me before we met and has my name and contact info, so if she is not on another method of birth control, do I have any alternatives if a baby bump appears? I most certainly do NOT want to be a father, especially to a working girl's child. I don't even know if pregnancy was what she was worried about, as she was so freaked, it was difficult to get any coherent answers out of her.
I've had a condom break before with a civilian girl and she simply said we need to go to the pharmacy for "Plan B", which we did the next morning. No big deal. But this provider acted like it was the end of the world for her.
A condom failure has to be something which occurs from time to time in a provider's career. Is there a protocol to deal with it? What is the proper etiquette for a client to follow when such an unfortunate event occurs? What procedure do you working girls follow in the event of condom breakage?
Thanks in advance for your input.
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He won't you know, he's 14...mentally at least, probably chronologically as well.
I'll take that any day over his blathering about Thanksgiving volunteer work or regaling us about the things his mother taught him about women. Name your poison.
I know I need to lose a little weight but barfing at every one of your posts is not my ideal diet dude.
This board is becoming a shit-hole, literally. Turn it off during dinner 
I wonder if it is more the way a condom is put on.
Or something like using the wrong lube that breaks them over a defect.
I was with a semi porn star that had a weird technique for putting on a condom.
It's so hard to describe... She "threw" it? Sorta...
It was like a magic trick.. It disappeared from her hands, and appeared on my dick.
(Well she stretched it wide open with both hands and slammed it on my dick.)
When she did that. It caused the tip of this thing to blow up like a balloon.
If she sucked the tip. I swear my dick would have looked like one of those poodles the clowns make.
I could feel the pressure! If I had blown a load in that thing it might have blown the load right back into my nut sack. You know? Or my balls would have won, and broken the condom.
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Just do whatever you need to do for you to have peace of mind. It happens. Why freak out over it. I'm fixed and clean. That's all I need to know.
Yeah, she had cause to be pissed at you and you should apologize profusely. You need to pay attention man. It's pretty obvious to the guy when a condom breaks, even if you aren't looking at it. (And who doesn't look at it? One of my favorite parts of doggie is to look at ourselves while I go in and out of her.) You didn't notice it was ''in tatters''? Seriously? Or did you just not WANT to notice?
I had a condom break once, and I knew IMMEDIATELY when it happened, and pulled out. I didn't wait around wondering why it suddenly felt so different!! I was a lot more freaked out than my date. Luckily she was clean, which means I still am too. Since then (and for other reasons) I usually insist on providing the condom myself. I recommend something thick and durable for vaginal/anal, and only use thin ones for bjs and hjs, where protection isn't paramount in importance.
If I were you, I would go get tested, obtain a written copy of the results, and give it to her for peace of mind. Then maybe tell her that you will learn from your mistake and pay more attention next time.
And please, do learn from this. I understand the temptation to let it go, but that's really irresponsible. We all need to be on the ball. Anything else is a public health hazard, whether you think you're clean or not.
The protocol is as soon as it stops feeling like protected sex and starts feeling "better and better" you pull out and check the equipmen
Why pull out if it feels that good?
Perhaps that penicillin is kicking in.
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But as a dangerous client who does not give a damn about things like informed consent on activities, I don't expect you to get it. It is plain you have zero respect for the ladies you see with such statements. I feel for any lady that would even give you the time of day.
there's always a first time.
I have had an intact condom stay in her after... we were enjoying the moment & my hardness faded before she moved. No sign of any leakage... though I was pretty freaky when I felt it staying in her, she was not upset. It was lazy doggy finale' BTW.
A gal who does not allow CIM but will work all around bareback... to make me cum... accidentally got some cum. After the number of years, she should remember I have nerve damage & don't get the normal sense of about to cum. She was gone a long time & came back smelling minty fresh... and pissed. I was not aware of what had happened until I caught her attitude. I guess I didn't apologize quick enough to suit her.
Now, cap jack, we have been hard on you here. I guess we've gotten the refresher, that if something doesn't feel right, we should stop & check. I always carry spares also... so we could switch & carry on. You know you need to be tested & convey the results to her. It would have been gentlemanly to offer her money should she need Plan B... or pay for her testing. I usually don't carry much spare cash with me. Perhaps that should change
Maybe Female Condoms can help reduce the failure rate. I read a study that showed the breakage rate for female condoms to be a fraction of the rate for traditional condoms. They can have problems slipping in or out. But failure rates for all condoms drop significantly with experience. Keep practicing folks!
I like female condoms – it feels closer to bareback. Plus, you can hang around in the pussy for a while after coming without having to worry about something slipping off as you shrink
They are stronger, you don't really need different sizes, at least in my experience, they feel more natural and comfortable, it's just the insertion that is several times longer than a male condom.
I do wish a breakthrough will come from Bill Gates' initiative.
I try to reassure the guy on regular testing, low volume, no BBFS, and no CIM IF I get any open cuts in my mouth. I also say, "Let's wait a few days. I'll get tested in a few days as things take a bit to show up… I will let you know everything's ok.
This happened to me a couple of times quite a while back, (I think there was a problem with the brand I was using then, idk,) Two of the guys freaked. They didn't cum in me or anything, thank God, they just noticed and stopped and the physical part of the session was over by their choice. But the condoms were hanging outside of my coochie.
We just spent the rest of the time talking about it. I sit with them, reassure them the best I can, and do what I say I'm going to do… get tested. We should anyway. I then email them after full testing results. One guy was very nice and thanked me.
I obviously don't send my medical records to people as it has my information on it, but he was ok after I explained the 10-panel, etc.
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are there any providers that really rely just on a condom for birth control? nothing is fool proof. secondary method should be used also. law of averages would say that the more sex you have the more likely that a condom will fail
I was in a simular situation but the guy insisted on using his condoms. It broke he came and I was extremely pissed. He gave me a couple more dollars but I left highly annoyed that his reaction was non-chanlant about the whole ordeal. I did not get pregnant and I am still clean and clear but I think hobbyist forget that providers are still human and to dehumanize a situation would piss any provider off. Any female that assumes she is participating in casual safe sex would freak out not to is abnormal.
Nothing i said would comfort her and she was an emotional wreck. I offered to take her to an all night pharmacy for a "Plan B" pill if that was an issue, but she said she just wanted to shower and leave, which she did. She was obviously angry with me, though I did nothing whatsoever to precipitate the incident. I would assume that working girls are on an alternative form of birth control, but she was so pissed and anxious to leave that we never got to discuss that. She verified me before we met and has my name and contact info, so if she is not on another method of birth control, do I have any alternatives if a baby bump appears? I most certainly do NOT want to be a father, especially to a working girl's child. I don't even know if pregnancy was what she was worried about, as she was so freaked, it was difficult to get any coherent answers out of her.
I've had a condom break before with a civilian girl and she simply said we need to go to the pharmacy for "Plan B", which we did the next morning. No big deal. But this provider acted like it was the end of the world for her.
A condom failure has to be something which occurs from time to time in a provider's career. Is there a protocol to deal with it? What is the proper etiquette for a client to follow when such an unfortunate event occurs? What procedure do you working girls follow in the event of condom breakage?
Thanks in advance for your input.
I have broken more than a few condoms. My own and ones provided by the ladies. If it feels better, I definitely stop to check. It can be frustrating but need to have respect for the ladies. I would rather have 'blue balls' than an accident. They seem to appreciate it